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OhioGuy Jul 4, 2014 7:57 PM

Looks like the mezzanine level is finished at Clark & Division? I assume the platform level was being improved as well? Is that finished or nearing completion?

ardecila Jul 4, 2014 8:24 PM

The platform is partially renovated. I didn't pay the fare to go downstairs, but it resembles the one at Lake. IIRC the ceiling mosaic is a little different.

http://www.chicago-l.org/stations/im...ke-state07.jpg

ardecila Jul 6, 2014 11:44 PM

Nice to see something moving forward. Metra had a plan to seek Federal funding for a UP-W improvement, but ultimately UP decided to fund the needed improvements on its own with state assistance.

Metra still needs to rebuild A2 Interlocking, though... this was part of the now defunct UP-W project.

Quote:

UP, IDOT to invest $90 million in Chicago line; celebrate completion of CREATE project
Monday, June 30, 2014


Union Pacific (UP) and the Illinois Department of Transportation (IDOT) are making a significant investment in Chicago's Metra West Line. Each will invest $45 million for the construction of a new third mainline track on the line from River Forest to Melrose Park and then from West Chicago to Geneva.

The West Line improvements are designed to ensure smoother traffic flow and reduce conflicts between the passenger and freight trains that share the line. Earlier projects completed by Metra and UP modernized the signal system and added crossovers to make freight movement more efficient. A third phase on the West Line, improving the Lombard and Wheaton Metra stations, will be finished in 2015. The West Line third track construction is the final step that will allow the 59 Metra trains and 70 freight trains that use the line each day to operate at the same time, a critical step to improving the line's reliability and efficiency.

The announcement was made during a celebration to mark the completion of a Chicago Region Environmental and Transportation Efficiency (CREATE) rail project that included the construction of a rail overpass, the rehabilitation of two passenger stations and the addition of pedestrian tunnels in Bellwood and Berkeley and signal and track improvements along the UP/Metra West Line.

M II A II R II K Jul 8, 2014 4:23 PM

Is this legit....

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CrossRail Chicago

http://www.midwesthsr.org/crossrail-chicago

New, electrified express trains linking O’Hare to the Loop, McCormick Place and the University of Chicago.

New, cross-town commuter trains linking the south suburbs to the northwest suburbs.

Setting the stage for high-speed rail and more than $13 billion in economic impacts.

.....




http://www.midwesthsr.org/sites/defa...il-chicago.jpg

Kenmore Jul 8, 2014 5:52 PM

not legit

M II A II R II K Jul 9, 2014 2:27 AM

Then that amounts to just an advocacy group that asks for help to make it happen.

ardecila Jul 9, 2014 2:46 AM

Yeah, pretty much. It's just an idea at this point.

It may be included in the next round of CMAP's official project list (GOTO 2040), which will make it an "official" proposal that can compete for Federal funding if politicians wish to pursue it.

At that point, it will be "legit" but still very unlikely unless it has a strong political backer. Given the regional nature of the proposal, it will likely need several strong political backers from city and suburbs. It's actually pretty similar to the plan that the Liberals just unveiled for GO Train.

sammyg Jul 10, 2014 11:58 PM

A new video was posted showing progress on the Englewood Flyover. Looking good, do more trains get shifted to the LaSalle St. Station as soon as it's done?

Video Link

ardecila Jul 11, 2014 12:55 AM

^ No... a second flyover is needed at 75th and Parnell before the Southwest Service trains will shift to LaSalle.

The only immediate benefit for the Englewood Flyover is that Amtrak trains on the lower level (Wolverine, Pere Marquette, Blue Water, Capitol Limited, Lake Shore Limited, Hoosier State, Cardinal) will experience fewer delays coming into/out of Chicago.

A third flyover at Grand Crossing will allow the Saluki and City of New Orleans to go through Englewood Junction as well.

emathias Jul 16, 2014 6:21 PM

This is research I alluded to a couple years ago when I gave a tiny bit of help to Ed Zotti - I hope more of it is publicized after the meeting, it's really quite fascinating.

New moves pondered to unclog downtown transit


Quote:

With downtown Chicago beginning to strangle on its own success, efforts are underway to revive plans to revamp and expand the public transportation network that serves the central area of the city.

But there are a few new twists this time. Included are the possibility of a new lakefront transit line that would go past McCormick Place and the proposed site of the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art all the way to the old South Works site on the Far Southeast Side, and an innovative proposal to boost capacity on portions of the jam-packed Red, Blue and Brown train lines without spending billions of dollars.

A trainful of many of the city's top planning and transit pros is huddling today to review the latest ideas and see how much consensus exists. Included in the confab, sponsored by the Chicago Central Area Committee, are top execs from the Chicago Transit Authority, Chicago Department of Transportation, Metropolitan Planning Council, Chicago Metropolitan Agency for Planning, and business and real estate executives whose properties stand to gain or lose.

In part, today's session is about proposals for a downtown circulator or connector system that fell victim to political feuding between Mayor Richard M. Daley and Gov. Jim Edgar two decades ago. Those plans, envisioning a light-rail network that would amplify Chicago Transit Authority service, came back in reduced form in the Central Area Plan adopted by the city in 2003, but since then mostly have gathered dust.

Still, "we still need to better move people from the commuter rail stations to Navy Pier, McCormick Place and on south," says Central Area Committee Executive Director Kelly O'Brien. And meanwhile, crowding has continued to worsen during rush hours.

According to new research by transit consultant Ed Zotti that is the basis for much of today's discussion, crowding, worsened by a rebirth of much of the inner city in recent decades, has gotten so bad that the key CTA el lines could be at capacity within a few years.
...

wierdaaron Jul 16, 2014 7:59 PM

Ed Zotti the Straight Dope guy?

sukwoo Jul 16, 2014 8:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wierdaaron (Post 6657378)
Ed Zotti the Straight Dope guy?

Looks like it.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/ed-zotti/4/888/b29

LouisVanDerWright Jul 16, 2014 8:40 PM

Here's an idea: given the new implications of the redevelopment of River North as an entertainment hotspot and tech hub, what if we did LRT on Carroll Ave, but rezoned the entire length of it as a street as well. Essentially allow all the buildings along that stretch to build another level of retail in the basement facing Carroll. However, leave the entire stretch of Carroll as a pedestrian mall with a tram/trolley moving slowly down the center of it? It might be impossible to mesh with the current loading situation, but it could turn into an incredible nightlife district if you could build proper access to it from the upper streets and also create a reason to get people down there, which is what Trump's river retail suffers from.

Imagine if you essentially had a cut and cover subway that was never covered and was also wide enough to support retail and foot traffic along the sides. Maybe pave all of it with cobble stone and allow lots of sidewalk cafes. Does anything like that exist anywhere? Allowing pedestrian and LRT traffic to mingle at low speeds?

Or hell, maybe cut out the transit portion all together and turn it into the "low line". Make it a linear park/plaza lined by restaurants and even allow it to connect to the lower streets to the East and encourage buildings to convert their basement spaces to retail a la Billy Goat?

ardecila Jul 16, 2014 9:06 PM

Why would you do that? The whole point is to speed up transit, but a tram on a pedestrian mall would be slower than the buses we have now.

I'm interested to see what Zotti's proposal is. Maybe he even got Cecil Adams' input!

sukwoo Jul 16, 2014 9:42 PM

Presumably he's proposing this:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago...nt?oid=3473194

ardecila Jul 16, 2014 10:00 PM

^ That's one part of the concept, but it sounds like he's also proposing some kind of downtown light rail.

wierdaaron Jul 16, 2014 10:15 PM

Is the city (CDOT, IDOT, CTA) actually interested in doing anything soon or is this a fact finding mission?

emathias Jul 17, 2014 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 6657449)
Here's an idea: given the new implications of the redevelopment of River North as an entertainment hotspot and tech hub, what if we did LRT on Carroll Ave, but rezoned the entire length of it as a street as well. Essentially allow all the buildings along that stretch to build another level of retail in the basement facing Carroll. However, leave the entire stretch of Carroll as a pedestrian mall with a tram/trolley moving slowly down the center of it? It might be impossible to mesh with the current loading situation, but it could turn into an incredible nightlife district if you could build proper access to it from the upper streets and also create a reason to get people down there, which is what Trump's river retail suffers from.
...

I'd rather put dedicated transit on Carroll Street and cap it and put retail along the top level. It'd be a lot more welcoming to more pedestrians, and it'd be just as effective and tie into other streets a lot better. It might not have the mystery a lower level retail corridor would, but it would be better in almost every other way.

If you did that, and if Wolf Point actually became interesting, the Merchandise Mart could even conceivably create some outward-facing retail along Field Drive and continue the retail all the way from Wolf Point to State Street along Carroll.

Tom Servo Jul 17, 2014 1:58 AM

I'm curious: has ridership dropped since the bullshit Ventra went into effect? I haven't used the train or busses since the CTA stopped using the normal fare cards. I refuse to pay extra for that dumbass shit, and there are many people I know who feel the same. I'd rather drive.

Anyway, I know a fair amount of people boycotting the Ventra shit, and I'm curious what ridership has been these last few months?

oshkeoto Jul 17, 2014 3:08 AM

^ Ridership is what it has been - up on rail, down on most buses. There's no indication that Ventra has had much of an effect either way.

Also, you know you don't actually have to pay any extra, right?


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