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GaylordWilshire Aug 27, 2018 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8294828)
I used a Photoshop plugin that is supposed to do a superior job of preserving details when enlarging an image. Unfortunately we have to enlarge the image so much to see the board that some distortion happens anyway.

I've been trying to figure out how to settle whether this is in fact a photo from the Santa Maria Greyhound station. All I have discovered so far is that the current station at 400 E Boone Street is fairly new. Before that there was a "temporary" station at 755 W. Cypress Street from 2001 to late 2016. But where did it stand in the 1950s?


I think you are right that this is Santa Maria. Looks to me like this is the Santa Maria Greyhound station once addressed 315 N Broadway--now numbered 313. ER's vintage interior view seems to match the openings and shapes of 313, and I can imagine the outside sign once having read GREYHOUND or BUS STATION. Noting what looked like a Pegasus logo, someone here wondered if the building across the street in the vintage view might have been a Mobil station...seems it might instead have been Jerry's Hancock service at 320 N B'way--the flying horse instead being a rooster.


https://s22.postimg.cc/72td0zm9d/santamariabus2.jpg
https://s22.postimg.cc/hpn66kmqp/san...busgsv.bmp.jpg
https://s22.postimg.cc/re57nrc69/hancockgassign.jpg

Noir_Noir Aug 27, 2018 2:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8294977)
. Noting what looked like a Pegasus logo, someone here wondered if the building across the street in the vintage view might have been a Mobil station...seems it might instead have been Jerry's Hancock service at 320 N B'way--the flying horse instead being a rooster.


Interesting form line for the Rooster there GW ... but I'm still putting my money on Flying Horse for the win. :)

https://i.imgur.com/iMdVyPF.jpg

GaylordWilshire Aug 27, 2018 4:19 PM

:previous:

OK...yes, more like a flying horse than a rooster...digging a little further, I've found that Jerry's Hancock service of 320 N B'way, SM, was, sometime before 1958, DON'S MOBIL SERVICE...listed at 320 N B'way, SM, in 1948.... so, horse became rooster....

oldstuff Aug 27, 2018 4:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8293995)
I just stumbled across some information that one of my relatives sent me a while back. A photocopy of a letter was sent to me, but I never scanned it, since it wasn't a photo - I guess I subsequently forgot about it. Well, I just came across this photocopy now, and it includes a bit of information.

I've written about my great-uncle Hubert here before. He was a bit part actor, but primarily a stuntman. Here he is getting clobbered over the head by Oliver Hardy:

https://i.imgur.com/eSCo76p.gif

This is a photo of Hubert I never posted before. The letter I found today says that it was taken at the Auto Wheel Cafe:

https://i.imgur.com/dcBwieZ.jpg

Hubert's son Bert, the child on the right (above) is the young man on the left in the photo below, so the photo above would have been taken some time earlier.

https://i.imgur.com/ayhtcxC.jpg

I know that a photo of a man kneeling by an oak tree doesn't reveal much location information in a city literally called Thousand Oaks! :rolleyes: But the letter (written by the son of Bert and the grandson of Hubert) says that he was taken to visit the tree, and that Bert said “we used to have a swing on that tree.” No date for this event is given, but I wonder if the tree outlived the cafe itself...

While I cannot pin down the location of the actual café, I did find info as to where they lived in the area. Maybe someone who has more time can figure out the name changes in the roads and pin down the location of their home. They did live in the same place for many years.

Diltz
Emma Evertson was born in Kentucky in 1875. She married Hershel Diltz, who was born in Illinois in about 1870. They were married in Colorado Springs, Colorado in 1894. Hershel is also listed as Budge Hershel and he may have also gone by Buddy. They two sons, Hubert, 1897- 1957 and David, born in 1916.
By 1920 they had moved to California and were living in Glendale, at 1664 Glendale Avenue, on rented property that is now Forest Lawn Memorial Park. Hershel was working as a house carpenter.
From 1930 onward, they are listed at RFD 1, box 63, Camarillo. The census listings show RFD 1 -Camarillo and Thousand Oaks. The 1930 Census lists Emma as being the owner of a restaurant. Budy (Buddy or Budge) is still listed as a house carpenter, son David, then 14 is living there as well. Budge’s father was also a carpenter. This census lists the place as Conejo District, Camarillo Township and Thousand Oaks School District.
Emma appears in the 1940 Census, living in Camarillo on RR 1. In that census she is listed as living with a grandson, Delmar, 14. She is 66 and there is no occupation listed. She is widowed by that time. Budge had died on April 17, 1937. Also listed as living on the same property at that time are a Jack Cavanaugh, 40, who was apparently operating the Café and his wife Betty. Joan Carney, a cousin, age 13, is also listed, as is a housekeeper Lyenn Binkley.

Emma died on May 4, 1942 in Ventura County and is buried in Ivy Lawn Cemetery in Ventura. Budge, who had died in 1937 is also buried in Ivy Lawn. Find a Grave does not have a picture of their gravesite but does have one for Budge’s father Lyman Diltz, and who served in the Civil War with the 105th Indiana Volunteers.

Tourmaline Aug 27, 2018 7:28 PM

~1966 - 801 W. Pico, Santa Monica

If the address is correct, the structure has been supplanted by a mini-mail/Starbucks. :shrug:



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Tourmaline Aug 27, 2018 8:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7375108)
I just found this on eBay.

"Bridge collapse, Santa Fe RRs Main Line into Los Angeles." [1941]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/IRj6Kt.jpg
detail / http://www.ebay.com/itm/6BB821-RP-19...0AAOSwPc9WuoSz

:previous: Are we looking west or east?


-here's the whole photo.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/kjYv2P.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/6BB821-RP-19...0AAOSwPc9WuoSz

:previous: That looks like my Uncle Hugh standing there. ;)


additional information on the reverse.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/uiwrPF.jpg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 7375137)
Looking northeast. That's the Lincoln Heights Jail back there. This is the RR bridge that leads into and out of the Cornfield.


https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7306/...41e46ff0_b.jpgLooking north from the SP cornfield railhead, ca.1938

Nice shot of the confluence of tracks at the north end of the 'Cornfield' (out-of-frame to the left) and the crossover to the Taylor Yard trestles here at Lincoln Heights and up ahead at the Arroyo Seco overpass. The white building on the east side of the 'unimproved' LA river is the Lincoln Heights jail.

unsourced

Not aware that this March 1938 view of the Santa Fe Bridge over Arroyo Seco paralleling the Pasadena Ave Bridge has been seen on NLA - yet.

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5a5e51f1/t...2g2-snap-imagehttp://www.trbimg.com/img-5a5e51f1/t...2g2-snap-image



More 1938 flood images (some which may not have been on NLA) can be found here > https://www.vintag.es/2014/12/35-bla...-1938-los.html





Laurel Canyon at Kirkwood Ave. (Watch out Lorendoc!)
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SECbpN7Cg...938%2B(13).jpghttps://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SECbpN7Cg...938%2B(13).jpg




Downtown LA (Definitely not Sowbelly car weather.)
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0QMt8UVaq...938%2B(12).jpghttps://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0QMt8UVaq...938%2B(12).jpg





Roosevelt Highway (now Pacific Coast Highway) at Santa Monica Canyon
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bOmRKzn97...938%2B(26).jpghttps://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bOmRKzn97...938%2B(26).jpg

KevinW Aug 27, 2018 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8293159)
Two of the possible addresses you posted were on Cahuenga Blvd. in Hollywood. Cahuenga is on a slight grade, but the street outside this bus station looks perfectly flat, so I think it's safe to rule those out.

(Some years back we had frame grabs from Stanley Kubrick's "The Killing" posted here showing the interior of the Hollywood Greyhound Station as it looked in 1956, but I'm unable to find that post.)

Here's an alternate enlarged view on the station board.

https://s33.postimg.cc/hs7b34u73/bus-2.jpg

I think odinthor is correct that the first word is Santa. Santa Maria, perhaps? :shrug:

The Left Board says:

Greyhound Lines

Santa Maria

Northbound

San Luis Obispo Paso Robles Salinas

San Jose San Francisco


and the Right Board Says:

Greyhound Lines

Santa Maria

Southbound

Santa Barbara Oxnard Santa Monica

Westwood Los Angeles

Beaudry Aug 27, 2018 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8285282)
I'm pretty sure the signs ascended to heaven, but I do have the backlit penny. Or at least, one pretty good-sized part of it, and about ten smaller pieces. The fellows in charge of ripping it off the building tossed it in the dumpster and it was dived-for and made its way to one of my storage lockers...which I'm threatening to empty out before year-end, at which point the penny may have to go to a new home. If anyone's interested...

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1838/...a10bfeea_o.pngphoto by me

Actually found a pic of it, in my side yard, from about thirteen years ago...

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1886/...26197d37_b.jpg

odinthor Aug 27, 2018 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinW (Post 8295702)
The Left Board says:

Greyhound Lines

Santa Maria

Northbound

San Luis Obispo Paso Robles Salinas

San Jose San Francisco


and the Right Board Says:

Greyhound Lines

Santa Maria

Southbound

Santa Barbara Oxnard Santa Monica

Westwood Los Angeles

Well done!

:tup:

ethereal_reality Aug 27, 2018 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8295710)
Actually found a pic of it, in my side yard, from about thirteen years ago...

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1886/...26197d37_b.jpg

:previous: Your "side yard" looks like a great place to snoop around.
What was your address again? ;)

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Handsome Stranger Aug 28, 2018 12:42 AM

Thanks, GaylordWilshire, for the follow-up providing the former address of the Greyhound station. I think we have a consensus now that the photo was taken in Santa Maria.

Also a tip o' the hat to KevinW for what appears to be an accurate reading of the travel board, and to CityBoyDoug for the map that provides confirmation.

ethereal_reality Aug 28, 2018 1:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal reality
"A behind the scenes shot from The Black Sleep (1956), which starred Bela Lugosi in his last real role (discounting the pre-shot footage
used in Plan 9 From Outer Space). The movie also featured Tor Johnson of Plan 9 fame, seen in the photo as well."
from weird retro


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/vtfVQB.jpg

Is this the famous 'Tail O' the Cock' on La Cienega Blvd (restaurant row),
or is it the 'Tail O' the Cock in the San Fernando Valley?

:previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8294903)
Unless both restaurants had the same design, I'd say it's the one on La Cienega:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...lotheCock1.jpg
Originally from ebay

Thanks Hoss. The two are very similar in their designs.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/OJrKHB.jpg
old file / originally from ebay





UPDATE:

I just came across this photograph of 'The Black Sleep' stars having lunch.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/OnO5p4.jpg
ipin.img

Let's take a closer look at Tor's menu :previous:

Yep, Tail O' the Cock
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/1xDjWQ.jpg
TOR'S MENU

The evergreens outside the window in the luncheon photo make me think the Valley more than La Cienega Blvd.
Also....the trees (outside the window) are somewhat similar to the trees shown in front of the valley Tail O the Cock. (refer to color postcard #2)
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update #2

I just read that the La Cienega 'Tail O' the Cock was extensively decorated at Christmas time. (at times there was even a live Santa on the roof!)
Could the 'trees out the window' be seasonal decorations? I ask, because it looks like there's 'snow' out that window too.
(or is it my imagination playing tricks on me again:shrug:)


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CityBoyDoug Aug 28, 2018 2:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8291431)
:previous:


Anhedonia strikes again!


Pools are fun for most people--aqua joy at Lizabeth's house, ca 1955
https://s22.postimg.cc/kgg993zkh/poolparty.bmp.jpg

Here are some fun California pools that you can't swim in ...the Permit said For display only.....NO swimming.

https://www.vintagelosangeles.org/im...valleypool.gif

The mania for private swimming pools began after World War I and may well be directly linked to Hollywood, which not only glamorized them on film, but made them a symbol of status within the film colony.

ethereal_reality Aug 28, 2018 2:19 AM

:previous: That's a great photograph CBD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8294892)

That's why I posted the California map.!!! Didn't anyone see where Santa Maria is located?

Sorry CBD, your map was too small for me to read. (and there was no link)

just so you know: the only thing worse than my eyesight is my memory.

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ethereal_reality Aug 28, 2018 2:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8294977)

Looks to me like this is the Santa Maria Greyhound station once addressed 315 N Broadway--now numbered 313.
ER's vintage interior view seems to match the openings and shapes of 313, and I can imagine the outside sign once having read GREYHOUND or BUS STATION.

https://s22.postimg.cc/hpn66kmqp/san...busgsv.bmp.jpg

EXCELLENT discovery GW! I agree, this is probably the old bus stop diner! Fantastic job!

And special thanks to Kevin W for the detailed bus routes.

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ethereal_reality Aug 28, 2018 2:45 AM

What in the heck is going on over on the right side of this sign???
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8294977)

It looks like a lightning rod fell out of the sky and impaled a pigeon!!

https://imageshack.com/a/img923/8863/4PPO6l.gif
GIPHY

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Tourmaline Aug 28, 2018 3:04 AM

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/OnO5p4.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/OnO5p4.jpg




:previous: Lon Chaney Jr.,far left. He was born in 1906 as Creighton Tull Cheney. In 1927, he would have been 21 years old. The '27 directory lists Creighton T Chaney at 735 N. Laurel Ave. A '30 building permit for a room addition lists owner as C T Chaney. Chaney did not start acting until after his father's passing in 1930. Chaney's bio indicates prior to acting, he was employed at an LA Appliance Company, where he married the boss's daughter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lon_Chaney_Jr.

Chaney in Dracula v Frankenstein, 1971( - or while preparing for role at Tail O' The Cock ?)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ein_Chaney.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ein_Chaney.jpg





How many can recite the LA County official song?



Official LA County Song and Flag. https://www.lacounty.gov/government/...ial-song-flag/



735 N Laurel interior
https://ssl.cdn-redfin.com/photo/40/...225246_8_2.jpghttps://ssl.cdn-redfin.com/photo/40/...225246_8_2.jpg

sadykadie2 Aug 28, 2018 4:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8294918)
Built in 1929, right before the Great Crash. Nice timing (not).

a rich fat-ass capitalist :haha::haha::haha:

CityBoyDoug Aug 28, 2018 7:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8295998)
:previous: That's a great photograph CBD.


Sorry CBD, your map was too small for me to read. (and there was no link)

just so you know: the only thing worse than my eyesight is my memory.

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I understand ER. I'm able to see the computer screen with an old pair of VA Rx glasses and even with that, only one eye is serviceable. The other eye working but with waviness. Oh well,
deal with it.....

:D:D:D

Tourmaline Aug 28, 2018 3:00 PM

Mercury bi-chloride garners headlines? A precursor to even bigger scandals.

Lon' Cheney Jr's father met a tragic end, dying from lung cancer and a throat hemorrhage. But evidently, he had to endure the tragedy of his first wife's attempted suicide in or at the Majestic Theater.

Quote:

[Frances Cleveland Creighton] and Lon had an increasingly rocky marriage and in April 1913, she went to the Majestic Theater in downtown Los Angeles where Lon was working and attempted suicide by drinking a bottle of the poisonous corrosive mercury bi-chloride. She survived but her main talent, a beautiful singing voice, was gone forever. They divorced a year later and she willingly gave Lon custody of their son. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0151590/bio

Majestic is on the left
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7...ynoirnearm.jpghttp://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7...ynoirnearm.jpg


1915
http://www.performingartsarchive.com...re_LA_1915.jpghttp://www.performingartsarchive.com...re_LA_1915.jpg



More Chaney miscellanea?

Lon Chaney Sr's residence was at 507 N. Linden Drive. Tmage is undated. Structure was demolished.
http://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...X=512&DMY=0&DM
http://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhelp...512&DMY=512&DMLAPL








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In September '20, Jack Pickford's wife, actress Olive Thomas, reportedly died from accidental bichloride of mercury poisoning.https://news.google.com/newspapers?i...+mercury&hl=en http://https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0..._=nm_ov_bio_sm

Quote:

News of her hospitalization and subsequent death were the subject of speculation in the press. Thomas' death has been cited as one of the first heavily publicized Hollywood scandalshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_Thomas

More on Jack and Olive. https://brightlightsfilm.com/wp-cont...ew-york-times/ Olive is no stranger to NLA, but her images seem to be playing hide and go seek. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=16138 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=37759

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/...0MDY@._V1_.jpghttps://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/...0MDY@._V1_.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/14/ec/6e/1...ragic-love.jpghttps://i.pinimg.com/736x/14/ec/6e/1...ragic-love.jpg



This purported image of Olive may have been part of a GW post :previous: . Is Olive a cut-a-paste target?
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a8/c3/e4/a...10d45b4b5f.jpghttps://i.pinimg.com/736x/a8/c3/e4/a...10d45b4b5f.jpg


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