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While looking for e_r's malt shop (which Scott Charles has now identified as Brooklyn), I found this one at 3676 S Western Avenue.
Ad for the Westside Malt Shop published in the 1947 Westside Yearbook and Business Directory. Includes photo of storefront. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eMaltShop1.jpg LAPL Here are some of the entries from the CDs for 3676 S Western Avenue: 1956 French Creole Pastries 1960/61 J & W TV & Hi-Fi 1962 Pink Front 1969 Pams Playhouse The building permits aren't much help. There's a 1947 Certificate of Occupancy for a restaurant (I'm guessing the malt shop), and one from 1964 mentioning a conversion to a sewing machine sales store. Amazingly, I think that the little malt shop building is still there. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eMaltShop2.jpg GSV |
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You showed up and immediately were downplaying your detective skills but you're off to a very impressive start! |
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here's how I found the pic. [for those who didn't click the link] https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/zGx9KW.jpg fuckyeahvintage.......................:previous: I only use mystery photographs that are a mystery to myself in my mystery posts. (phew..that's a lot of 'mystery' for one sentence! __ That said, I've decided to do a... 'Challange' Post :cheerleader: Even though I read the caption (i.e. location)...I still can't figure it out. (there's a second photograph I'll post a bit later, but it's just as confusing) -to me anyway https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/iXfZqf.jpg Good luck Challangers!!! __ |
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Isn’t is strange how you can tell that a photo is not of LA, even when you can’t explain why? I wonder what it is that both of us are seeing {or not seeing} that gives it away as a non-LA photo… Now as to your “challenge photo”, I have no idea at all - but after witnessing some of the mind-boggling detective work in this thread I wouldn’t be surprised if someone nails it within the hour! |
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"Dempsey remained in the house on Western for the duration of his brief Hollywood career, opening the house frequently for entertainments and charitable functions attended by the elite of the film colony before finally moving to Hollywood itself in 1925 with his purchase of the estate of legendary automobile designer Harley J. Earl on Los Feliz Boulevard." from Paradise Leased originally posted by tovangar2 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/GXsiqJ.jpg ebay We know the Depsey-Taylor mansion in Los Feliz was auctioned in May 1932 . So the Dempseys' were in the Los Feliz house abour 7 years t2. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/ktWyYB.jpg jrgrahambooks "with no more movie offers coming in and his marriage to Estelle breaking up (they divorced in 1931) he didn’t have much reason to stay in town and began pulling up stakes for New York, where he opened his successful restaurant in 1935." _ |
1869 Los Angeles Panoramic Photo
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portion copied above, #14 is photographer Stephen Rendall; he's visible in the photo reproduction below to the right of the Episcopal Church: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...g.jpg~original http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...m.jpg~original This is from a little farther down in the same article; the photographers were Stephen Rendall and William Godfrey. I don't recall seeing Godfrey credited with the 1869 panorama before. Maybe Godfrey actually took the photo, which allowed Rendall to be in it: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...a.jpg~original November 26, 1944, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL This portion of the May 1869 Rendall/Godfrey panorama looks south. A few of the numbered landmarks are . . . 18 = New High Street 34 = Spring Street 35 = J. D. Hick's residence 36 = Brick Jail (1853) 39 = Franklin Alley (Changed to Franklin Street in April 1872, then apparently later renamed Jail Street before being changed back to Franklin and then finally to Court Street) 40 = Third Street 41 = School No. 1 (1855) at NW corner of 2nd and Spring 43 = Dan Scheck's residence 44 = A. G. Mappa's residence (under construction at right center edge) http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...x.jpg~original CHS-7179 @ USCDL This photo is not part of the Rendall/Godfrey panorama, but it appears to have been taken just a short time after from almost the same spot. I can see only two differences between this photo and the panorama: a) below, the Mappa home (#44) has a little more roof; and, b) those two white objects to the right of #18 have either been removed or are out of view and hidden by the bottom of the hill: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...0.png~original P-010-0406B at Seaver Center The photo below looks in the same basic direction as the other two, is credited to Godfrey, and also dated 1869, but I think this photo is older than that. There are several differences between this photo and the previous two. Such as . . . 1) Homes #35 (upper left corner) and 43 (south side of Franklin opposite the end of New High) are missing. 2) The trees in front of the home to the left of #43, on the south side of Franklin, across from the jail yard, are smaller. 3) The New High Street side of the jail yard fence is not painted. Also, the fence seems farther from New High than in the other two photos. Does the rear jail yard fence align with the tall white fence south across Franklin in this photo as it does in the others? I'm not sure. If the jail yard fence wasn't moved, I guess New High was graded, widened, or realigned. http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...m.jpg~original gpf.0926 at Seaver Center The trees in front of School No. 1, visible in the two 1869 photos, don't seem to be in the last photo. However, they were deciduous black locust trees, so whatever year the last photo was taken, it must have been in the winter. |
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I just found a couple more items: The japanese garden is mentioned in this article. November 15, 1919 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/sHYaVH.jpg Motion Picture News Flash forward a couple decades... https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/u80Vlv.jpg The Story of Hollywood / Gregory Paul Williams This view, from I believe to be the mid 1930s, doesn't show the Japanese garden but it gives you an idea of the decrepit state of the studio. this accompanied the photograph https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/fJN0h4.jpg The Story of Hollywood / Gregory Paul Williams -there's a bit of a discrepancy: The Japanese garden is described as being in the backlot, yet the aerial photograph that Scott Charles' posted shows the Japanese garden just inside the studio entrance. :shrug: __ |
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Yep, first time. :-) Thanks for checking! I didn't think there was enough info in the picture to ID the location, but it was worth a try. Here's another of Mom with that Olympic/LA bear border. No doubt about the location of this one, though. ^_^ https://otters.net/img/lanoir/griffithpark1937_sky.jpg -Scott |
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Also, there’s that structure that appears to be in the middle of the street. It’s too close to our side of the street to be across the street. It looks like it’s one of those wait-for-the-bus-here pedestrian waiting stations, but it doesn’t look like any I’ve seen in LA (which used chain link fence, if I remember correctly). https://i.imgur.com/DNBGfJ4.gif But really, it’s more of a feeling I got, rather than any conclusive evidence. Can’t say I had any real proof! |
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http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics25/00062246.jpgLAPL http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=12931 It could be that the image is compressed, but another "1927" "Ye Bull Pen" seems strangely close to the business so as to interfere with it. Or, could this have been a staging area for the ads. There seems to be other statuary in close proximity. Los Feliz Blvd. and Gardena Ave. looking south toward the Southern Pacific Crossing.. 1927 - Los Feliz Blvd. from Gardena Ave. http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...0&DMY=0&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...2&DMY=0&DMTEXT http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...9coll59/id/772 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMY=512&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMY=512&DMTEXT http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...MY=1024&DMTEXThttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...MY=1024&DMTEXT |
The familiar "elevated" RR bridge crossing Los Feliz was evidently added in 1957.
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Post at Los Feliz and Riverside demarcates a Griffith Park border ?
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Here's a view of the Plaza with the same date as your pano FW, 1869. (this photograph is no doubt a repeat for nla) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/9VwIRI.jpg old file / water and power ....but this time I have a question. Anyone have an idea what this is? https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/z1IpZo.jpg I'm guessing a drinking fountain for people of varying heights and a dog ;). or....water troughs for different sizes of horses. (I'm kidding, sort of) and I hadn't noticed the picket fence around the entrance to the Plaza Church before. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/iFBU0d.jpg detail I guess I just haven't looked close enough at the oldest photographs of the church. (or on second thought, perhaps the fence was only there for a short time) __ |
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