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chris08876 Mar 21, 2020 4:30 PM

Speeding, that is an American right. On a side note, Valentine released the 2nd gen radar detector.

People infringing on my rights to do 30 mph over on a perfectly empty highway with limited traffic that poses no immediate issue so long as one respects the left lane rule.

The Germans show that it could be done, but they are also German, and don't have American's behind the wheel. The one's that can't drive or change a tire because our driver training system sucks.

bnk Mar 21, 2020 4:39 PM

This is very good new.




https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ny...er/ar-BB11tMnk


NY liquor stores deemed "essential businesses" under new order

MSN ^ | 3/20/20 | Audrey McNamara

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo on Friday announced an executive order that mandates 100% of the state's workforce "must stay home, excluding essential services," until further notice. That order does not apply to liquor stores, the New York State Liquor Store Association clarified later Friday.
"Liquor stores have been deemed an essential business and may remain open," the association said in a press release. "You do not need to reduce your workforce. This applies to all SLA licensed entities as per the SLA."
Beverage manufacturing, including alcoholic beverages, is also considered an essential operation, and is included under the state's list of exemptions, according to the SLA.

Other exemptions from the executive order include shipping, media, warehousing, grocery and food production, pharmacies, healthcare providers, utilities, banks and related financial institutions. "Bars and restaurants are closed, but takeout can be ordered during the period of closure," the governor's website said.


...

chris08876 Mar 21, 2020 4:39 PM

Funny thing is that U.S. Route 50 in Nevada, also known as the loneliest road, is heavily enforced. When there isn't a car for miles upon miles and you can see a mile+ visibility when the nearest car is present, why the hell are they so anal about speed. Its all revenue folks. American speeds are antiquated, and serve as a collection pathway for states. Its just a tax on the people.

The idea that its for safety, its just all stroking the you know what.

In Europe, parts of it, they warn you in advance when there is a speed camera. For safety. In America, a giant fuck you as the speed cam takes you plate with no upcoming warning. That's why as a form of advice, I recommend all get Waze, and a good detector, for peace of mind against the tax collection. Detectors can pick up the K or Ka signal that cameras emit as well.

montréaliste Mar 21, 2020 4:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obadno (Post 8869320)
Those two things are not comparable.

The us government has not right to keep me in my home and they wont. Once again I don’t care how you feel about that.

The government can suspend your rights, your ass ends up in jail and you'll be tapping your fingers on your bedbunk instead of your keyboard.

If you're lucky, you'll be bunkmates with someone a little less enamored of rules than you.

montréaliste Mar 21, 2020 4:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8869335)
Speeding, that is an American right. On a side note, Valentine released the 2nd gen radar detector.

People infringing on my rights to do 30 mph over on a perfectly empty highway with limited traffic that poses no immediate issue so long as one respects the left lane rule.

The Germans show that it could be done, but they are also German, and don't have American's behind the wheel. The one's that can't drive or change a tire because our driver training system sucks.


A German that hits the wall at 130mph is a dead German.

Same divverenz.

chris08876 Mar 21, 2020 4:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montréaliste (Post 8869347)
A German that hits the wall at 130mph is a dead German.

Same divverenz.

Likewise with 65 or 75mph. 75 mph common on certain roads in certain states. But that's not the issue. What's more of a concern are folks that text, and folks that impede the flow of traffic. Not necessarily speed under ideal circumstances with excellent situation awareness.

The key is under ideal circumstances. If your in the middle of Utah, on an empty road, doing 85 mph, that's not a threat to society. Now if your doing 55 mph and the flow of traffic is 70mph, and one is blocking the passing lane, the odds of something going wrong increase as folks have to break, causes a backlog, and risks incident when folks pass on the right.

Under Ideal Circumstances is key.

Now there are physics involved, and kinetic energy increases as one goes to higher speeds, but point being, any incident 65mph will still incur some bad things or likely hood. At some point, it does become irrelevant but could be mitigated by situational awareness and good judgement. Something a lot of folks don't have. I'd argue texting, improper traffic protocol are far bigger issues than the guy doing 15 over on an empty road.

hauntedheadnc Mar 21, 2020 5:02 PM

First cases reported today in my city. One here, one in the next county south, and five in a county to the west.

montréaliste Mar 21, 2020 5:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8869350)
Likewise with 65 or 75mph. 75 mph common on certain roads in certain states. But that's not the issue. What's more of a concern are folks that text, and folks that impede the flow of traffic. Not necessarily speed under ideal circumstances with excellent situation awareness.

The key is under ideal circumstances. If your in the middle of Utah, on an empty road, doing 85 mph, that's not a threat to society. Now if your doing 55 mph and the flow of traffic is 70mph, and one is blocking the passing lane, the odds of something going wrong increase as folks have to break, causes a backlog, and risks incident when folks pass on the right.

Under Ideal Circumstances is key.

Now there are physics involved, and kinetic energy increases as one goes to higher speeds, but point being, any incident 65mph will still incur some bad things or likely hood. At some point, it does become irrelevant but could be mitigated by situational awareness and good judgement. Something a lot of folks don't have. I'd argue texting, improper traffic protocol are far bigger issues than the guy doing 15 over on an empty road.


I see so many drivers driving like madmen under less than ideal circumstances, though.

Not to mention the lack of distance between drivers in the left lane even when folks are driving way above the speed limit.

Just sayin.

chris08876 Mar 21, 2020 5:08 PM

^^^^

I agree. No argument on my part. Believe me, I wish people would use better judgement and situational awareness. Eh... I know... I know... alas the issues of the world lol.

I also wish they could understand when engine breaking versus hard breaking is ideal. But, I know... I'm wishing for too much.

Pedestrian Mar 21, 2020 5:10 PM

San Francisco in a time of epidemic is like San Francisco any other time:

Video Link

chris08876 Mar 21, 2020 5:21 PM

Regarding the NJ press conference, make sure to refresh the youtube feed. Murphy just started as of now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oybo...ture=emb_title

Obadno Mar 21, 2020 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obadno (Post 8869320)
Those two things are not comparable.

The us government has not right to keep me in my home and they wont. Once again I don’t care how you feel about that.

Lol no they can't. And if they tried I would gladly enjoy the settlement money after the fact.

chris08876 Mar 21, 2020 5:36 PM

Only essential businesses to be open after 9 pm tonight.

montréaliste Mar 21, 2020 5:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obadno (Post 8869398)
Lol no they can't. And if they tried I would gladly enjoy the settlement money after the fact.



I hope you are using your "alter ego" as a sounding board. That's a start to a better conscience, unless your mind is unalterably damaged.

cabotp Mar 21, 2020 6:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obadno (Post 8869091)
Not because of 'murica but because I am not going to be told that I cannot travel to my parents house, or that I cannot go to see other people I care about because of some edict from some politician



Dont care, I cannot tell you how pleased I am we live in a nation that doesnt allow for such limitation of movement. You dont realize it now but its a good thing for you too.

How would you feel if you gave the virus to your parents and they ended up dying?

You may think that the government is trying to restrict your rights. But what you don't understand is they are simply just trying to protect everyone.

SlidellWx Mar 21, 2020 6:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnk (Post 8869302)
Some real assuring numbers an stats in this link.

https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine...9-1b767def5894

This is the most thorough examination of the pandemic that I have seen yet. It is much more reassuring than what I see on tv and social media. Thanks for sharing. Let's all keep up the good work of social distancing for another week or so to keep lowering the mortality rate (down to 1% of those tested and confirmed positive now), and then we need to start living life normally again ASAP.

mhays Mar 21, 2020 6:49 PM

Obadno doesn't care if other people die.

He's literally a sociopath, mixed with a big dose of entitlement because he's all that matters.

Buckeye Native 001 Mar 21, 2020 7:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabotp (Post 8869436)
How would you feel if you gave the virus to your parents and they ended up dying?

You may think that the government is trying to restrict your rights. But what you don't understand is they are simply just trying to protect everyone.

I don't understand why it's so difficult for some people to realize the measures being taken now are to limit/minimize the strain on our hospitals and healthcare workers. Hell, there's a couple of doctors on this forum who've been saying basically the same thing about how we're not equipped to handle this at the present time.

I didn't realize how unprepared we were in Flagstaff until my gf, who works at the local hospital, informed me that they only have a couple of isolation rooms and maybe 15 ventilators for a town of 70,000. Mind you, FMC is a level one trauma center that also serves a huge rural community. Phoenix is 142 miles away. Vegas and Albuquerque are both over 250 miles away.

Long story short, there are trolls here who just enjoy pissing everyone else off. There's also people here who think that their lives are more important than everyone else's.

SIGSEGV Mar 21, 2020 7:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlidellWx (Post 8869448)
This is the most thorough examination of the pandemic that I have seen yet. It is much more reassuring than what I see on tv and social media. Thanks for sharing. Let's all keep up the good work of social distancing for another week or so to keep lowering the mortality rate (down to 1% of those tested and confirmed positive now), and then we need to start living life normally again ASAP.

Lots of plots and bravado, not very much substance. The author has no apparent qualifications in anything other than making plots and spewing right-wing polemic. He cherry-picks evidence that suits his point ("low evidence of community transmission!") while talking up the uncertainty of evidence that doesn't. He says some big words but shows no math. Everybody with any qualifications says the opposite of this random "growth hacker."

Pedestrian Mar 21, 2020 7:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckeye Native 001 (Post 8869485)
I didn't realize how unprepared we were in Flagstaff until my gf, who works at the local hospital, informed me that they only have a couple of isolation rooms and maybe 15 ventilators for a town of 70,000. Mind you, FMC is a level one trauma center that also serves a huge rural community. Phoenix is 142 miles away. Vegas and Albuquerque are both over 250 miles away.
.

Having a Level 1 trauma center, a couple of isolation rooms and maybe 15 ventilators is actually quite a lot for a town of 70,000.

It would be fairly unusual under normal circumstances in such a place to get someone who needs high level isolation in an ER. Ventilators are more common because they can be needed for trauma victims with chest injuries, stroke and other brain injury patients and so on.

San Francisco, a town of almost a million, has one trauma center also (Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital) although I'm certain several other hospitals have lots of ventillators and probably isolation rooms.

iheartthed Mar 21, 2020 7:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 8868829)
well, to absolutely no one's surprise i'm sure, i'm listening to Pandora's Steely Dan station, as i have been all week.

it beats the snot out of the contemporary rock station we listen to all day everyday at the office (WXRT for chicago people).

That's one of my Pandora stations, so I hear "Beginnings" and "Snowbound" a lot. But yeah, I guess it is kind of eerie now.

iheartthed Mar 21, 2020 8:09 PM

Speaking of cops...

Quote:

152 Detroit cops in coronavirus quarantine, 5 test positive

The Detroit Police Department is working the streets with 157 fewer cops as a result of the coronavirus outbreak.

The department said 152 of those officers have been quarantined due to the virus. Another five have tested positive. One civilian member of the department has also tested positive.

"I've not seen anything like this," Detroit Police Chief James Craig told a news conference Friday, according to news radio station WWJ-AM.

"It's certainly a cause for concern,” he said, adding that at this point our services will not change."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/detroit-c...rus-quarantine

cabotp Mar 21, 2020 9:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckeye Native 001 (Post 8869485)
I don't understand why it's so difficult for some people to realize the measures being taken now are to limit/minimize the strain on our hospitals and healthcare workers. Hell, there's a couple of doctors on this forum who've been saying basically the same thing about how we're not equipped to handle this at the present time.

I didn't realize how unprepared we were in Flagstaff until my gf, who works at the local hospital, informed me that they only have a couple of isolation rooms and maybe 15 ventilators for a town of 70,000. Mind you, FMC is a level one trauma center that also serves a huge rural community. Phoenix is 142 miles away. Vegas and Albuquerque are both over 250 miles away.

Long story short, there are trolls here who just enjoy pissing everyone else off. There's also people here who think that their lives are more important than everyone else's.

The sad part is more people are going to die simply because some people think they and their rights are more important.

bilbao58 Mar 21, 2020 9:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8869375)
San Francisco in a time of epidemic is like San Francisco any other time:

I saw a video of someone in Tehran taking out the garbage while wearing the same dino suit. :)

Pedestrian Mar 21, 2020 9:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 8869580)
I saw a video of someone in Tehran taking out the garbage while wearing the same dino suit. :)

Maybe a woman--it covers you up better than a burkha. ;)

10023 Mar 21, 2020 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabotp (Post 8869436)
How would you feel if you gave the virus to your parents and they ended up dying?

You may think that the government is trying to restrict your rights. But what you don't understand is they are simply just trying to protect everyone.

It’s Mother’s Day in England tomorrow. I was meant to go visit my mother. I’m not going to.

That is the appropriate course of action. People go in with their lives and avoid elderly relatives, not until there is a vaccine but until there is widespread testing.

Yuri Mar 21, 2020 11:54 PM

Things evolved very quickly since Monday here in São Paulo, from just the dominant talk subject to run to the supermarkets by Wednesday.

The first death in the city (and country) were registered on Monday and now there already 15 deaths confirmed.

People are very alarmed, the city is already shutting down.

JoninATX Mar 21, 2020 11:54 PM

Here in Las Vegas. Half the city unemployed including me. So best way to handle this situation is to relax, distance yourself from people and open a can of beer. Cheers!

chris08876 Mar 22, 2020 12:29 AM

For NJ Folks:


https://covid19.nj.gov/

The site was plastered on electronic billboards today.

I went to a few parks with the gf today, and I can tell you this, people DID NOT practice social distancing. Also, big Jewish population in Highland Park NJ, and same thing, no social distancing among those folks. I hear it was also a problem in Brooklyn. Weddings and Bar mitzvah contributing to a large spread.

This is just an observation, especially with Highland Park folks per my visit today.

Pedestrian Mar 22, 2020 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoninATX (Post 8869691)
Here in Las Vegas. Half the city unemployed including me. So best way to handle this situation is to relax, distance yourself from people and open a can of beer. Cheers!

Please make it Corona.

JoninATX Mar 22, 2020 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 8869713)
Please make it Corona.

You got it! :cheers:

chris08876 Mar 22, 2020 12:48 AM

Saturday night... let me repeat... Saturday night... with the lights, and somewhat warm weather in Times Square...!!!! :runaway:

https://static.earthcam.com/hof/newy...6238427_11.jpg

Normally you can't move without bumping into somebody, and traffic up the wazoo.

The Spanish Steps, normally packed, closed. Saturday nights are usually a nightmare at night from a density standpoint.

https://static.earthcam.com/hof/newy...4260432_28.jpg

KevinFromTexas Mar 22, 2020 1:38 AM

https://communityimpact.com/austin/c...tDF1jsVgbNGhew
Quote:

As unemployment soars in the Austin metro, city officials scramble to create local coronavirus relief programs

By Christopher Neely | 5:55 PM Mar. 20, 2020 CDT | Updated 6:08 PM Mar. 20, 2020 CDT

Between March 1 and March 18, 11,851 unemployment claims were filed in the five-county Austin-Round Rock Metropolitan Area, a 460% increase over the same time period in 2019, according to the Texas Workforce Commission.

The rapid spread of the coronavirus, and social distancing measures implemented by federal, state and local governments to mitigate that spread, have struck a significant blow to the country’s economy. Locally, the March 6 decision by Mayor Steve Adler to shut down South by Southwest Conferences and Festivals, and the follow up March 17 decree to limit gatherings of more than 10 people and prohibit dine-in service at all restaurants and bars have forced small businesses and laborers into a struggle unforeseen only weeks ago.

mrnyc Mar 22, 2020 1:58 AM

sephora in the meatpacking preps for inevitable social unrest.

cleans out the shop, boards it up, then quickly paints it over.


http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/...pscuskhjc4.jpg

chris08876 Mar 22, 2020 2:20 AM

Folks need to be careful. I heard something that some folks are out pretending to give covid test kits to houses, and than robbing them. A sort of aggravated house or home robbery.

Some folks are also stealing deliveries or food left on steps of folks homes.

The North One Mar 22, 2020 2:20 AM

^ What the hell? Literally boarding up shit in Manhattan??? It's really gotten that bad in New York?

Your post is the first I'm hearing about this.

KevinFromTexas Mar 22, 2020 2:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The North One (Post 8869784)
^ What the hell? Literally boarding up shit in Manhattan??? It's really gotten that bad in New York?

Your post is the first I'm hearing about this.

They boarded up all the bars on 6th Street in Austin, our entertainment strip in downtown. There hasn't been anything to warrant it, but they're just playing it safe not wanting looters to come for the booze.

chris08876 Mar 22, 2020 2:24 AM

Its also an interesting point to note that cops might or have been infected. More cops that get infected or put out of commission, the enforcement will lack.

And there will be folks that will take advantage of it. If its religious nut jobs claiming Silver Solution can cure this or if its the local mailman, some element of crime will seep into this whole mess the longer this drags on.

The govt better not drop the ball on unemployment income, because minute the money runs out, especially for paycheck-to-paycheck folks, bad things might happen.

chris08876 Mar 22, 2020 2:36 AM

There is an online toilet paper calculator: Howmuchtoiletpaper.com


I quote "The simple calculator for how much toilet paper you need to survive the pandemic".

Essentially how long your current supply will last during your quarantine.

Lol click on the advance options... :haha:

It actually factors in "Average number of wipes per trip".

mrnyc Mar 22, 2020 2:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The North One (Post 8869784)
^ What the hell? Literally boarding up shit in Manhattan??? It's really gotten that bad in New York?

Your post is the first I'm hearing about this.

does that look like photoshop?! ugh.

thats from this morning — i actually saw them them boarding it yesterday, but wasnt sure exactly what they were doing until today.

so yeah i was as unnerved as you are shocked.

i can say they do this in ny for hurricanes, but this caught me off guard.

and i cant speak for all of manhattan of course, im stuck in my nabe.

but — i plan to go for a jog uptown early manana, so ill see what i see and take some pics if anything.

a boarded up town would be the most depressing thing i can imagine to find!

The North One Mar 22, 2020 2:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 8869785)
They boarded up all the bars on 6th Street in Austin, our entertainment strip in downtown. There hasn't been anything to warrant it, but they're just playing it safe not wanting looters to come for the booze.

I mean that makes sense. I knew those kinds of places were locking up. I didn't know anybody was literally boarding up anything though, like that thought didn't even occur to me until now.

Does Sephora really need to go on total lockdown to protect overpriced makeup that probably costed them ten cents to make anyway...

SlidellWx Mar 22, 2020 2:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV (Post 8869489)
Lots of plots and bravado, not very much substance. The author has no apparent qualifications in anything other than making plots and spewing right-wing polemic. He cherry-picks evidence that suits his point ("low evidence of community transmission!") while talking up the uncertainty of evidence that doesn't. He says some big words but shows no math. Everybody with any qualifications says the opposite of this random "growth hacker."

I didn't really pay attention to the political stuff. I was loving the access to data through the references. I have now bookmarked the worldometer site to keep track of everything. Such a great resource. It has way more data than anything else I've been able to find. I love data!

mrnyc Mar 22, 2020 2:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The North One (Post 8869803)
I mean that makes sense. I knew those kinds of places were locking up. I didn't know anybody was literally boarding up anything though, like that thought didn't even occur to me until now.

Does Sephora really need to go on total lockdown to protect overpriced makeup that probably costed them ten cents to make anyway...

no they cleaned it out of the merch first, then boarded it up.

im as shocked as you or anyone.

yeah, it never crossed my mind anyone would do this, much less so soon.

i dk if its a good idea or over reaction? i guess it depends how it goes.

Steely Dan Mar 22, 2020 3:31 AM

* MODERATOR EDIT *

political fuckholery has been moved to the political fuckhole (the current events subforum).

We've given you political axe-grinding shit-wads your very own toilet.

FUCKING USE IT!

photoLith Mar 22, 2020 3:38 AM

Was in Pittsburgh’s Strip District tonight which is usually packed with people. There were no cars parked on the street, nobody walking around. It was absolutely insane. Would swear we’re living in the post apocalyptic wasteland just waiting for the buildings to rot and collapse. The world is going to be much shittier place after this is all said and done. All of the progress urban centers have made in the past 20 years is going to be erased with most places going out of business because of this overreaction. I still think people above 70 should be quarantined and the rest of us should be allowed to live our lives in order to not destroy the economy for years and ruin hundreds of millions of lives; which this will.

SIGSEGV Mar 22, 2020 3:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by photoLith (Post 8869853)
Was in Pittsburgh’s Strip District tonight which is usually packed with people. There were no cars parked on the street, nobody walking around. It was absolutely insane. Would swear we’re living in the post apocalyptic wasteland just waiting for the buildings to rot and collapse.

I went on a longish ~6 mile walk (mostly) in the park today. There were quite a few couples, families and joggers, for the most part keeping apart from one another. This was the most crowded scene:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WR...=w1283-h962-no

On the other hand, this was outside Trader Joe's yesterday morning:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Om...=w1283-h962-no

badrunner Mar 22, 2020 3:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8869787)
Its also an interesting point to note that cops might or have been infected. More cops that get infected or put out of commission, the enforcement will lack.

And there will be folks that will take advantage of it. If its religious nut jobs claiming Silver Solution can cure this or if its the local mailman, some element of crime will seep into this whole mess the longer this drags on.

The govt better not drop the ball on unemployment income, because minute the money runs out, especially for paycheck-to-paycheck folks, bad things might happen.

That's probably why they're not pulling over people for minor traffic violations. Why risk it? I don't think things will get out of hand, as long as the government can keep everyone afloat financially and keep everything running.

twister244 Mar 22, 2020 4:11 AM

I don't live in Chicago, but saw this come up on my feed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA6eaCfi60Y

SIGSEGV Mar 22, 2020 4:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twister244 (Post 8869880)
I don't live in Chicago, but saw this come up on my feed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA6eaCfi60Y

I'd say that channel's previous video (from a few days ago, "Empty Chicago") is even better.

The North One Mar 22, 2020 4:40 AM

If this virus has proved anything it's that we are truly a global society.


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