NOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://www.snowbowl.ski/snowbowl-su...ting-march-17/

Well there goes my weekend plan.


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^ you are a real special case obdano.

its well known entitled and careless people like you are the ones spreading this around.

we can only hope that info about corona and your local closure as made by sensible adults make you rethink your choices.

I could ski while maintaining social distance my man.

yes you can.

but you can't ... in the parking lot, paying, the chalet, the lifts, the apres hot coco joint, the gas station on the way, etc. etc. etc.

those are needless and careless risks at the moment. and if you have been acting this way they say its very likely you are a typhoid obdano by now regardless.

try to use better common sense for awhile.

Hey everyone, maybe just stay the fuck out of Coconino County (or anywhere, really) for the time being.

Agreed.

The US is at greater risk because too many people put themselves ahead of their country.

Boys I have been following this since before most people even knew it existed. Dont ask why, I have an affinity for morbid epidemic news, its addicting.

Im glad you guys are concerned but there is also no reason to go into a wild panic.

You do not need to shut yourselves into your homes at the moment. In fact I would recommend taking advantage of the spring weather before we end up locked in our homes like Italy, I think you got another week to 10 days or so.

But there is no reason to get all bent out of shape about a random guy in a state with only (now 20) known cases going to a mostly empty (now closed) ski resort in a town with 0 cases.

Its just a bit much

If you live in NYC, it's highly likely that we'll be ordered to "shelter in place" in less than 48 hours:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-next-n1161516

Should've happened already.

umm yeah, there was a time when nyc had 20 known cases too. anyway, i dont know what you think you know, but its most certainly nothing about what a pandemic is. prevention is crucial. go read up on that. also the part about you being an unknown carrier and out in public situations for no good reason. not to mention now doubling down and boasting about it here on social media. that behavior just reeks of being entitled and uncaring at best.

i mean of course yes go out out and enjoy nice weather for a bit, but make it before a grocery errand or something, avoid people and stay at home for now.

young people are in a lot more trouble with this than they initially thought or hoped.

belgium doc says lung scans of infected younger people are terrifying:

https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/corona...of-terrifying/

This idea seems to be spreading like a virus:

From my HOA

Its amazing how they just dont get it

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...politicalpunch

And if, as in the past, they don't want to go into a shelter? Part of the reason is bans or controls on drug and alcohol use in shelters. Others just abhor being controlled and prefer independent living even outside.

Then there's the problem of shelters having large rooms holding many more than 10 people, contrary to all the infectious disease expert advice.

And finally there's the question of damage done to property housing them by these addicted, mentally ill people. Will the city and state guarantee to cover all damage? And some churches especially are irreplaceable architectural gems--at least one is suspected of having been burned to the ground by homeless people being sheltered in its basement.

Still, if SF can sweep the streets and sidewalks now, it will have a hard time explaining why it can't do that when normal times return.

Not trying to downplay this in any way shape or form, but it sounds like the young people in question here are just one's who are seriously ill and have come to see this doctor seeking treatment.

Of the people that do get sick up to 20% of them end up hospitalized.

That is really the big deal with this illness. It requires a lot of intensive care and its easy to overwhelm the health system.

I know... but the headline of that article, at least to me, made it sound as if the lung scans were terrifying to the doctor across the board regardless of the severity of the infection, and I just wanted to make the clarification that the doctor was referring to those with severe infections.

I don't know if Norway has an equivalent to HIPAA (or if that even matters?), but we probably also don't know if the younger people seeking treatment are immunocompromised.

Side note: Some studies indicated that the rate of fatality among diabetics after contracting the virus was around 7.3%, but didn't appear to distinguish between people with Type 1 or Type 2 Diabetes. As anyone with either type will tell you (I'm a Type 1...), there's significant differences between the two.

There will be a decision on a shelter-in-place announcement for NYC in the next 48 hours per the Mayor's Twitter feed. The hubby and I just did a mad dash to the liquor store just in case.

Finally somebody in this thread with the right priorities.

Easiest commute to a client site in ages today. For those that know the area, the portion where I-78 meets the NJ Turnpike (right before the tolls), is usually a massive shit bottleneck from hell. Today, easiest time ever. No issues, and it was raining too.

I had to do a monthly contact with a kid, with them standing on the porch and me standing across the yard, both of us on phones and with a dog taking a dump on the grass in between us.

#workingsocially

People are wearing masks though. Spotted some today. Client I went to deals with weight lifting equipment, and all the employees had masks. Although some of them were not wearing it right. Some had it backwards.

I suppose one way of using PPE properly is using it the right way!

Of course they are a select group: The ones who get sick. But the myth is none of this age get sick and that is clearly wrong which is the point the Dr. is making.

Here in Texas, there's not even 100 cases out of almost 30 million people but most are taking it serious regardless. Who cares if AZ 'only' has 20 cases (that we know of) but that's sure to rise exponentially.

Scenes just witnessed around my neighborhood:

- loads of people out walking around, walking their dogs, kids riding scooters, etc. But everyone making sure to keep their distance, ie. Neighbors shouting hello to each other across the street and so forth.

- an outbound brownline train just rolled down our alley with maybe a dozen people on it. @ 5:30pm!!!


Most people around me seem to be taking this seriously, which is great to see.

Yes, I can see the Roosevelt statoion from my window and it is way less crowded than usual. Like...10 pm levels of pedestrian activity at 6 pm.

I went to Round Valley Reservoir on Sunday, and there folks in the park with their children, walking around, hiking/jogging. Like everything was normal. Some were eating on benches.

Lesson to be learned is that there are those that will take measures, and those that will take extreme measures like wearing a bubble suit or building a rocket to prove the earth is flat and one that crashes. :shrug:

Eh... whataya gonna do

Exponentially to what? A few hundred? A thousand? Neither would be meaningful.

Most of us on our floor at work are working from home, but I had things to do that I could only complete at the office (same case tomorrow except I'll be driving all over Birmingham). When I went out to pick up lunch today, downtown wasn't exactly a ghost town. There were definitely more people walking around compared to weekends, but I saw what I would estimate to be 90% fewer people around than usual. People were keeping distance from eachother and there were maybe 9 of us on our floor in the office out of the normal 70 or so on a typical business day, and we stayed pretty well separated throughout the day.

Another thing that has been happening since the outbreak really hit the US has been Delta parking plenty of planes at Birmingham-Shuttlesworth Intl. BHM has plenty of space for them in adjacent property that was formerly an aircraft manufacturing/maintenance facility. Yesterday, I think there were at least 10 wide-body Delta planes parked, today there were easily over 20. I love plane-spotting and usually go out of my way to visit the airport's obervation area on my way home from work so this has been nice to see, I just wish it were under better circumstances.

There's nothing wrong with any of these activities (except maybe the people with their children in the park unless they make sure they stay away from other peoples' children in the park). You should be quite safe outdoors as long as you maintain a 6 ft distance from other people. And the major risk of jogging is you'll be hit by a car or attacked by someone else's dog.

With business as usual, 20 million.

Somewhere with that 20 million figure, there's the room for a Stalin Quote, but I won't go there.

Yeah that would be crazy though.

In an odd way, again... just mind chatter... that's all it is... but the social security problem would be fixed in a years time. I know, a crude joke... but mind chatter (what ran through my mind) that's all.

Let's hope this thing doesn't mutate into a bunch of different strains with varying levels of severity. Every replication increases the chance of a mutation. Virus's typically mutate as an evolutionary response to avoid the immune systems of creatures or hosts.

So in a nut shell, hopefully its not to the point where the vaccine in the works is not effective by the time its released.

Despite all these precautions, most of us will get it. Ain't necessarily the end of the world if we do, depending on our immune response. That's something I'm thinking about since it's inevitable.

A very Asheville thing is occurring... Drag queens are on local social media asking for help since all their bookings have dried up.

‘Shelter in Place’ order could hit NYC: Here’s what it means

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https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/shelte...what-it-means/

If nothing was done to combat this, potentially everybody.

So, like, can you hire a drag queen to do a show in your living room? Seems to go against the tenets of social distancing, but this could be a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Heres a couple photos I took tonight of Carson St, which is Pittsburgh's bar scene. On any other St. Patricks day this street would be packed with cars and sidewalks would be shoulder to shoulder traffic. Tonight, there were a few people walking around and no cars hardly. I would surmise that 40% of these long established bars won't be able to make it through this if the quarantine lasts longer than a few weeks, which it surely will.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...dfb4c352_h.jpgUntitled by photolitherland, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...897e8234_h.jpgUntitled by photolitherland, on Flickr

This is truly some movie level shit. All of those thousands of jobs on just one street gone overnight with maybe a $1000 check each coming their way in a couple of weeks. And that money will last a couple of weeks maybe with how high rents are.

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Pretty sure that even worst case scenarios don’t have “most” people getting it... it would have to be the most contagious virus of all time. At this point they’re not even sure how contagious it is.

It’s not that contagious and the death rate I’m convinced similar to that of the flu, just a fractional bit higher. 70-80% of people that have it have no symptoms. The only people being tested are those with severe symptoms. This is all overblown hardcore and we’re all going to lose our jobs because of it. The death rate of 1-2 percent is clearly not that; and if it is, I t’s with those, sorry to say, who are within a couple of years of dying anyways. This is going to cause the Great Depression 2.0. Sorry 10023 for calling you a monster, but I digress and believe this is all being overblown. Elderly people above the age of 75 (who mostly are already retired) should be quarantined. Nobody else should be. This is going to cause immense suffering by the majority of the American populace due to loss of jobs and no social safety networks and no universal healthcare.

This is 9/11 times 100.

I don’t think that’s accurate. 70-80% are “mild” in that they don’t require hospitalization.

Global figures and number of deaths sorted by country, updated about every 8 hours. You might want to bookmark and keep checking back. As of this evening the GLOBAL death rate seems to be 0.0402391782905905 (198,513 cases/7988 deaths) https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Global figures and number of deaths updated about every 8 hours. You might want to bookmark and keep checking back. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Here is the GLOBAL death rate breakdown sorted by age based on the 198,518 case figure
GE
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases
DEATH RATE
all cases
80+ years old

21.9%

14.8%
70-79 years old


8.0%
60-69 years old


3.6%
50-59 years old


1.3%
40-49 years old


0.4%
30-39 years old


0.2%
20-29 years old


0.2%
10-19 years old


0.2%
0-9 years old

no fatalities

Yes and like live said, the vast majority of cases are unreported. So that skews the death rate by a huge percentage. I don’t understand why this is so hard to understand.

Your info is different from what the medical community has been telling us. Dr. Fauci (not sure how you spell it) has been a good source of information.
Consider the catastrophe in Italy right now. That's us in a couple of weeks if we don't take all these strict measures.

Read this: https://medium.com/@Jason_Scott_Warn...c-2b0145881993