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tovangar2 Dec 20, 2016 3:10 AM

:previous:


"The Calla Lilies are in bloom again"

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/z-...lts=w1366-h768
Stage Door (1937)

Hepburn runs the whole gamut of emotions from A to B

... with apologies to Ms Parker (if she did indeed say that)

BDiH Dec 20, 2016 5:11 AM

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;7655322]Hoss, I just found a photograph of the interior! :)

The photograph below is slightly different than the ChuckaLuck & GW photos. (a large Steinway blade sign has been installed)-among other signs.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/XC58I5.jpg
http://www.steinway.lagcc.cuny.edu/f....0085.9.51.PDF



Ah, Penny-Owsley on Wilshire. I worked there briefly back in the day.

odinthor Dec 20, 2016 5:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7656314)
And here's a second photograph connected to the Moneta area.


I LOVE this photograph.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/T7c6aL.jpgebay

This seller says this is a tulip field but I'm pretty sure those are Calla Lilies. (one of those lilies is a small child ;))


reverse / with a 1907 Moneta postmark
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/HFqPoJ.jpg


link to photo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1907-RPPC-Re...wAAOSwKOJYHLm3

Oui: Zantedeschia ætheopica, the Calla Lily. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zantedeschia_aethiopica In some locales in California, they're apparently so at home as to be a pest; but they're a handsome plant.

BifRayRock Dec 20, 2016 3:33 PM







1100 Block San Fernando Rd., San Fernando. revisited Date Unk.

Hop in the Hudson Hornet to hang at Bailey's Malt Shop.

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...u.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/11335



Scotts Department Store, a casualty of the '71 Sylmar Quake.


http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...u.jpg~original




http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...n.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/11336



http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...x.jpg~original





1971 - So long old friend.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics45/00057324.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/pics45/00057324.jpg




BifRayRock Dec 20, 2016 4:08 PM






2200 Huntington Drive, San Marino City Hall and Fire Dept, 1938 - Lovingly bathed in sodium vapor lighting.

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...o.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/33196



http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...2.jpg~original




http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...x.jpg~originalGoogleStreetView









BifRayRock Dec 20, 2016 4:27 PM





Junction of Spring and Main Streets. 1911


http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...j.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/12038


http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...v.jpg~original







ethereal_reality Dec 20, 2016 5:58 PM

SheriffPaul, I don't want you to think we ignored your Los Angeles Times bombing posts. It's just that we've seen the photographs several times before.

That said, I don't remember seeing this interior (below) photograph.
Quote:

Originally Posted by SHERIFFPAUL

I've been searching for a photograph of the interior lobby BEFORE the bombing. Does anyone know where I can find such a photo?
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I posted this photograph a couple weeks ago of the Los Angeles Sheriff Dept. outdoor firing range.
Did you happen to see it SP?

I was hoping you (or anyone) could tell us where this was located.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I wanted to find (via google earth) the remains of that giant outdoor fireplace. ;)
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ethereal_reality Dec 20, 2016 5:59 PM

Look what I just found!!

Could this be the same place as the black & white photograph?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/jVM2ob.jpg
#1

:previous: I've never heard of 'Coyote Canyon'.



I really like their hand-painted sign.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/9TWWOm.jpg
#2




I wonder if these steps have survived?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/8BJYGF.jpg
#3



Tricks!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/XbBh8t.jpg
#4


more tricks!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/RQxs7i.jpg
#5



Machine gun writing!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/aLRuwh.jpg
#6



Ta-Da!! E.W.B.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/LXG9OP.jpg
#7




Here's the complete video as promised. :)

Video Link


After watching the video I'm still not sure if this is the same range as the one with the outdoor fireplace. (I don't think it is)

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Earl Boebert Dec 20, 2016 7:26 PM

At the start of WWII my father, a railroad special agent, was "federalized" and had to go to an FBI range and qualify on the Thompson submachine gun. He said it was the smoothest, most controllable weapon he had ever fired. Publicity stunts like spelling initials and cancelling giant checks with Tommy Guns were common in the Thompson era.

Cheers,

Earl

John Maddox Roberts Dec 20, 2016 7:53 PM

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I posted this photograph a couple weeks ago of the Los Angeles Sheriff Dept. outdoor firing range.
Did you happen to see it SP?

I was hoping you (or anyone) could tell us where this was located.




I wanted to find (via google earth) the remains of that giant outdoor fireplace. ;)
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That looks like a serving table in the bottom right corner of the top picture.

ethereal_reality Dec 20, 2016 8:18 PM

:previous: I was wondering if that was a serving table JMR.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 7657041)
At the start of WWII my father, a railroad special agent, was "federalized" and had to go to an FBI range and qualify on the Thompson submachine gun. He said it was the smoothest, most controllable weapon he had ever fired. Publicity stunts like spelling initials and cancelling giant checks with Tommy Guns were common in the Thompson era.

I hope you don't mind me asking Earl, but do you have a photograph of your father from that time period? We'd sure like to see it.

HossC Dec 20, 2016 8:48 PM

Here's another Hugh Gibbs building from Julius Shulman. This is "Job 2452: Hugh Gibbs, Compton Health Center (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1957". I love the sky in the first two images.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

I left out a close-up of the front corner. This shot is looking towards the front from the side.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Looking out from the airy entrance. Notice the clear view across the street on the right.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

The health center building is still standing at 300 E Rosecrans Avenue, Compton, but I had to go back to 2012 to get this view because it's now hidden by trees. I'm not a fan of the way the original entrance has been walled in, so maybe the trees are a good thing!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
GSV

Looking from the side, the bridge over the railroad is clearly visible. It was built sometime between 1980 and 1994 (going by Historic Aerials). Unusually, it's now covered in vegetation.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
GSV

Martin Pal Dec 20, 2016 8:52 PM

This escaped my notice from December 7, 2016:

http://www.lamag.com/wp-content/uplo.../Aquarius9.jpgL.A. Magazine

From Hollywood Heritage:

No matter how you remember it, as the Earl Carroll Nightclub, the Frank Sennes Moulin Rouge, Hullabaloo, The Aquarius Theatre or as the Nickelodeon on Sunset, this much-admired historic theatre-showplace is now a Los Angeles Cultural Heritage Monument, approved by the Los Angeles City Council just today, December 7, 2016. The theatre takes its rightful place as part of the historic Sunset Blvd. neighborhood which houses other 1930's and 1940's landmarks like Columbia Square, the Florentine Gardens and the Hollywood Palladium. This stretch of Sunset Blvd. is rich in community and entertainment history. Thank you, City Council, Cultural Heritage Commission, and Essex Property Trust, owners of the theatre!

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Unfortunately, missing from that 'historic neighborhood' would be NBC Radio City. :(

tovangar2 Dec 20, 2016 9:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7656932)

That said, I don't remember seeing this interior...photograph.

That photo was in an LAT feature on the bombing linked in this post from FredH. Both excellent.

I don't recall seeing any 'before' photos of the interior of the Times building.

I'm reminded of the 1906 'before' photo below. The north end of the Times Building is on the right. This section sustained the worst damage, all but vanishing, except for the north wall.

Photo of the north end of the Times building engulfed in gas-fed flames
Photo of the facade of the north end of the Times building falling

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ye...Zsg=w1366-h768
LAT

HenryHuntington Dec 20, 2016 9:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts (Post 7657078)
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I posted this photograph a couple weeks ago of the Los Angeles Sheriff Dept. outdoor firing range.
Did you happen to see it SP?

I was hoping you (or anyone) could tell us where this was located.



I wanted to find (via google earth) the remains of that giant outdoor fireplace. ;)
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That looks like a serving table in the bottom right corner of the top picture.[/QUOTE]

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Not SP, obviously, but I did find this item from the LASD's website:
Sheriff’s Revolver Club – 1935-1976

Sheriff’s Revolver Club Range was built in Coyote Canyon just below the current Sheriff’s Headquarters
Building near the 710 Fwy. The range was privately owned by the Revolver Club and was funded by
members who paid $1 a year to belong.
Here's the link: http://shq.lasdnews.net/content/uoa/...20-%201939.pdf

LASD HQ is listed at 4700 W. Ramona Blvd., Monterey Park, which is its intersection with Ameron Way. Apparently the Googlemobile wasn't allowed beyond the guard shack, but the mission probably was futile in any case. Ramona Blvd.'s original alignment was taken by the Ramona Parkway (later Ramona Freeway, now San Bernardino Freeway) beginning in the 1940s. I couldn't find any remnants of the Revolver Club Range in my cursory search of the area.

OTOH, some of the incidents described in the linked history sound pretty noirish, so there might be some fodder for further investigating.

Martin Pal Dec 20, 2016 9:41 PM

.
This is part of an extensive post by Noircitydame about Los Angeles Drive-Ins:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7153583)



8801 Sunset @ Horn
SIMON’S / DOLORES’ / JACK’S ON THE STRIP


This was a Simon’s Drive in as of 1937 at least. In 1945 it was taken over by Amanda & Ralph Stephens, who’d founded the first Dolores in Oklahoma City, OK. Dolores isn't here as of 1950 and at some point a diner named “Jack’s on the Strip” opened here- no other info about the property until it was demolished for Tower Records.
• 1935-37: About this date Simon’s opens a sandwich stand here
• 1945: Dolores Drive-In opens here by this year
• 195?: Becomes Jack’s on the Strip drive-in
• 1970: demolished for Tower Records


http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...%20dolores.jpg as Simon's c. 1937

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...resdribein.jpg as Dolores
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I discovered a couple photos of “Jack’s on the Strip”:

The street along the foreground is Horn Ave. Up that street on the opposite side at the time would be the Cafe Gala nightclub.
Can anyone make out what that neon strip on the top of the Jack's sign might say?

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/...ure-id86238100
Getty Images



Traveling up Horn Ave. a bit and then angling south we can get a glimpse of people sitting inside.
On the right, notice a man...doing his own version of a sobriety test? Also, notice the couple
sitting outside in the small sports car. They're also somewhat visible in the top photograph.
On the left side, across the street (Sunset Blvd.) you can see Bublichki's Russian Restaurant.

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/...ure-id86238106
Getty Images

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This link has a photo of the neon sign for Jack's, but it's not the same as the one in the photo above.
So, it's either not the same location or the neon sign was replaced.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8203
and the photo was obtained from this link:
http://onbunkerhill.org/manneats4

Earl Boebert Dec 20, 2016 9:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7657104)
:
I hope you don't mind me asking Earl, but do you have a photograph of your father from that time period? We'd sure like to see it.

Funny coincidence, I just finished scanning a bunch of old albums. Here's two. The first, with my mother, shows his working clothes. His employer expected him to wear a three piece suit while chasing crooks through a railroad yard in Elko NV. Never outdoors without a hat. The second is one of a set I just sent to the Basque museum in Boise. My parents met through the efforts of a Basque family and we vacationed every summer up on their sheep camp near Beckwith Pass, CA. That's me on the mule, one of the sheepherders on the left.

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Parents.jpg

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Donkey.jpg

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Dec 20, 2016 10:34 PM

:previous: Those photographs are great Earl. You're a cutie on that mule. :), that's your Dad holding your hand, right?



Quote:

Originally Posted by HenryHuntington (Post 7657175)
Sheriff’s Revolver Club – 1935-1976

Sheriff’s Revolver Club Range was built in Coyote Canyon just below the current Sheriff’s Headquarters
Building near the 710 Fwy. The range was privately owned by the Revolver Club and was funded by
members who paid $1 a year to belong.

Thanks for the information HH:previous: -surprised it was privately owned.

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sidenote:
I was going to post a 2D view of the Biscailuz Training Center but the choice/option of 3D or 2D views is missing. Has this happened to anyone else?

Any pointers?


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riichkay Dec 21, 2016 12:25 AM

In my post on pg. 1913 re: the 1940 census, enumeration district 60-114, I mentioned finding "Citizen Kane" actress Dorothy Comingore and her screenwriter husband Richard Collins at the Villa Valentino apartment court, 2000 N. Highland Ave:

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psrdvyo2qt.png

She was born Margaret Comingore, and professionally used the names Kay Winters and Linda Winters early in her career. In the census she's Linda Collins, a name she never used in her work. Here's the other half of the census pg, lines 4 & 5 from the top are Richard and Linda:

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pswslvdrkw.png

The Villa Valentino is still very much with us, it's been designated a landmark:

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psmkfqeatc.png

Commingore in her prime:

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psogcvwcnt.jpg

And as the alcoholic Susan Alexander in "Kane":

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pssvgxlmss.jpg

Her story is classic L.A. noir. It was briefly addressed back on page 1779 in a discussion of the Try Later/Raincheck Room bar at 8279 Santa Monica Blvd., a location that figures prominently in the Comingore story. I thought I would flesh out some details.

In the '40 census Dorothy and Richard were both 25, and on their way. She had been discovered by Charlie Chaplin when he caught her in a production at a playhouse in Carmel. She played several small parts until Chaplin introduced her to Orson Welles, who gave her the plum role in "Kane" (she was filming the picture at the time of the '40 census). Her notices were good in that film but her career went sideways (Wiki):


"After seeing Dorothy on the big screen, every studio in town wanted to borrow her. But RKO refused. She then fell so ill a doctor ordered bed rest. But when she didn’t show up for work, the studio suspended her. Dorothy had hoped to star in Sister Carrie, Jane Eyre, or some other classy production, but upon returning to work found nothing to do. "I must have said the wrong thing at the right time," she told friends, "and I’d like to know what it is."

Hearst’s yellow ink had stained her reputation. According to documents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Dorothy had landed on a government watch list for the crime of "distributing Communist literature to negroes." It’s true that Dorothy had canvassed Watts, stumping door-to-door for actor Albert Dekker, a state Assembly candidate. (He won.) And yes, she had worked with musician Lead Belly and singer Paul Robeson to try and desegregate whites-only USO clubs. (They succeeded.) And she had indeed urged voters, soldiers, and Baptist teetotalers to support "union solidarity" whenever possible. At a time when Hollywood workers were organizing themselves, she became a marked woman. A few years later, the US House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC) became a permanent fixture, and Dorothy’s FBI file had grown thick. HUAC’s stated mission was to investigate "subversive activities in the entertainment industry," but Richard [Collins, her husband], Dorothy, and thousands of others believed it was out to strangle free speech and organized labor.

The star also had acquired a powerful enemy - the 78-year-old Hearst. The media mogul so hated Dorothy's portrayal of his mistress, 44-year-old Marion Davies, that he used his chain of newspapers and radio stations to smear the young woman. Hearst's columnists Hedda Hopper and Walter Winchell publicly accused Dorothy of belonging to the "Party" (the Communist Party), and borrowed Orwellian "newspeak" to malign her. As it was, Dorothy never was a dues-paying "commie".[5]".


Dorothy and Richard divorced in '45. He was a card-carrying party member, who "named names" in the McCarthy years to preserve his viability in the industry. He went on to a lengthy career, working in the 50's for Don Siegel, including writing the treatment for "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". He died in 2013, age 98.

As for Dorothy, like her screen character in "Kane" she drifted into drink.

After her irreverent testimony to HUAC in 1952 she was at the aforementioned Try Later bar, 8279 Santa Monica Blvd. She left with a couple of gentlemen who drove her to a nearby park. They were undercover Sheriff's deputies. They said she offered up favors for $10, she claimed a frame-up for her unfriendly HUAC testimony. The story is here in detail:

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/...mingore-story/

I looked for a photo of the Try Later bar, nothing turned up. The closest I got were some 1959 images after it had become the Raincheck Room, from the first successful Russ Meyer nudie pic, "The Immoral Mr. Teas":

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5gbdcdep.png

A buxom woman comes out of the place:

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psdqvxzwoh.png

In this one you can see the 8279:

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psgbcbowdd.png

Dorothy Comingore died 12-30-71, age 58.

And one story, inevitably, leads to another. As mentioned above, she worked for Albert Dekker in his '44 state Assembly race. I think NLA has covered this, as he also went out in a very noir fashion:

On May 5, 1968, Dekker was found dead in his Hollywood home by his fiancée, Jeraldine Saunders. He was naked, kneeling in the bathtub, with a noose tightly wrapped around his neck and looped around the shower curtain rod. He was blindfolded, his wrists were handcuffed, there was a ball gag in his mouth, and two hypodermic needles were inserted in one arm. His body was covered in explicit words and drawings in red lipstick.[7] Money and camera equipment were missing, but there was no sign of forced entry. Though speculation ran rampant, the coroner found no evidence of foul play, and ruled his death accidental due to autoerotic asphyxiation.

tovangar2 Dec 21, 2016 1:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 7657340)
In my post on pg. 1913 re: the 1940 census, enumeration district 60-114, I mentioned finding "Citizen Kane" actress Dorothy Comingore and her screenwriter husband Richard Collins at the Villa Valentino apartment court, 2000 N. Highland Ave:

Thank you riichkay for the post

Comingore's story, as related in the LA Review of books, was gripping and tragic.

In later years Wells said he regretted the damage done to Marion Davies by the Susan Alexander character. Did he ever spare a thought for Dorothy Comingore?


BTW, Villa Valentino was built as Roman Gardens, designed by brothers Walter S. and F. Pierpont Davis. (They also did The French Village, lost to the freeway). The complex was renamed Villa Valentino because of the erroneous legend that Valentino used it for trysting, but it didn't open until 1926. Villa Valentino / Roman Gardens has been covered on the thread.


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