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odinthor Sep 21, 2022 9:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9737383)
These are courtesy the hemmings.com automotive site, both are supposedly here in the city.....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

A commentator on this pic at the hemmings.com site sees a white '59 Caddy waiting at the light upper right, presumably we are around that year.

I ran Western Camera in late '50's Yellow Pages in the central/western books, nothing turned up....we have a clue in the "7901" street number painted at the top of the building.

[...]

Could it be 7901 Santa Monica Blvd. (at Fairfax), looking much different today? I used this angle because we can see the hill in the distance.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZqyvxCZb/7901-Santa-Mon-GSV.jpg
gsv

This location was Standard Camera in 1955:

https://i.postimg.cc/t4cV6FKv/7901-S...-1955-5-15.jpg
LA Times, 5/15/1955.

riichkay Sep 21, 2022 11:18 PM

odinthor, I think you may have it, the profile of the hills seem to line up.

Here's the Ed Ruscha image of the corner from 1974....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

acorn8332 Sep 21, 2022 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9737383)




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

Undated, but that's a '68 Sedan de Ville on the left, so likely late '60's...

Plenty of signage clues but I can't make them out, other than the traffic sign hanging over the street upper right that seems to read San Diego Fwy.

Santa Monica Blvd. & Sepulveda Blvd. looking Southwest? The Eastbound traffic looks to be splitting off to the Santa Monica Blvd. South roadway (which becomes Little Santa Monica Blvd. in Beverly Hills). Street light at the far right is typical of those found on Santa Monica Blvd. West of Beverly Hills before the major reconfiguration for the busway. The white sign on the same corner was commonly used when two numbered routes intersected: (Former) CA-7 for Sepulveda Blvd. and (Former US-66) for Santa Monica Blvd.?

Noir_Noir Sep 21, 2022 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9737579)
Could it be 7901 Santa Monica Blvd. (at Fairfax)


This location was Standard Camera in 1955:

https://i.postimg.cc/t4cV6FKv/7901-S...-1955-5-15.jpg
LA Times, 5/15/1955.


Western Camera Supply appears in the directories for two years, 1961 & 1962, at 7901 Santa Monica Blvd.

https://i.imgur.com/78eH2x2.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org


By 1963 they had moved a little east and across the boulevard to 7856.

odinthor Sep 22, 2022 1:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acorn8332 (Post 9737697)
Santa Monica Blvd. & Sepulveda Blvd. looking Southwest? The Eastbound traffic looks to be splitting off to the Santa Monica Blvd. South roadway (which becomes Little Santa Monica Blvd. in Beverly Hills). Street light at the far right is typical of those found on Santa Monica Blvd. West of Beverly Hills before the major reconfiguration for the busway. The white sign on the same corner was commonly used when two numbered routes intersected: (Former) CA-7 for Sepulveda Blvd. and (Former US-66) for Santa Monica Blvd.?

I believe you're right, acorn8332.

Look at the three palms in the distance:


https://i.postimg.cc/ncj1PcnW/Palms-Santa-Monica.jpg


They're still there!:

https://i.postimg.cc/c15mh8GY/Santa-Monica-Palms1.jpg
gsv


They're at 1719 Beloit.

https://i.postimg.cc/0j30yh0Z/Palms-...719-Beloit.jpg
gsv

riichkay Sep 22, 2022 6:42 AM

Great work accorn8332....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

Santa Monica & Sepulveda it is.....I lived in Westwood/Brentwood for 30 years (starting in 1979 when I was just up the street at Sepulveda/Ohio), I went through this intersection a thousand times, and just did not see it....suffice to say the corner changed mightily from the late '60's to the late '70's.



The light standard protruding on the foreground right is for the Mobil station that still stands....the photographer would have been perched on the rooftop of the building to the right, there's the light fixture...from the 1974 Ed Ruscha images...

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds


More '74 Ruscha....


Here's the San Diego Fwy. sign....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




The Shell station at the s.e. corner was a Texaco before its demise....    

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




Here's the karate studio on the s.w. corner...

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




And the fast food place....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds


The Westwood Gateway office towers have occupied the s.w. corner since about 1980.

GaylordWilshire Sep 22, 2022 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 9732540)
That's Harry Carpenter's Drive-in that was at 3201 Wilshire Blvd. (NW corner with Vermont.)


Seen here in 1934 in this picture you posted in June of 2015 .


And to the right in this picture from 1948.


https://i.imgur.com/QVvMMZj.jpg
waterandpower.org


WHAT WAS THERE: Before commerce, there were houses on Wilshire, such as
641 S Vermont Avenue. It occupied the future site of Carpenter's at the nwc corner of
Wilshire and Vermont and is seen here as it was being demolished. More on the house here.

https://i.postimg.cc/jqQ1wGMf/641-SV...ky-TALL-FB.jpg

ethereal_reality Sep 22, 2022 5:16 PM

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. .a mystery location.

Skippy's Bar..Los Angeles...1933


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/niohLP.jpg
eBay


I love this fun little drinking establishment. ..I take it that's Skippy behind the bar.


The details on the back are priceless. .

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/QvwjJR.jpg

. .but he forgot to include the street address and the name of the bar. (Skippy's?)






Some details.

Skippy

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/zOpE1V.jpg





the men in the mirror.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/2KdiEZ.jpg




The drawings on the wall.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/KPT4C9.jpg

FDR!




What dis?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/nrrm4Z.jpg





UPDATE

I just found a photograph of Skippy's larger establishment! I'll post it this afternoon or later tonight. :)

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Martin Pal Sep 22, 2022 7:25 PM

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Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9737692)
odinthor, I think you may have it, the profile of the hills seem to line up.

Here's the Ed Ruscha image of the corner from 1974....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds
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A 1901 image looking north up Fairfax Ave. from Santa Monica Blvd. now West Hollywood.

https://www.hollywoodphotographs.com...ISC-1901-1.jpg

Mackerm Sep 23, 2022 2:21 AM

:previous:

The profile of the hills is similar to this one, taken south of La Brea and Sunset.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mackerm (Post 9013929)


ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2022 2:47 AM

.

As promised, here is Skippy's larger bar that unfortunately broke his bank.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/2f34KP.jpg


This time we have the name of the bar and the address!..

Globe Cocktail Lounge...1317 East seventh St....Los Angeles, Calif.



Jack Skippy . . To Greet You

:previous: Skippy is his last name! I certainly wasn't expecting that.






Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/VdEgFb.jpg
eBay

Obviously, a more serious drinking establishment. No cartoons on the wall. ...I prefer his smaller bar.


Reverse.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/eXO9Gy.jpg


I feel bad that Skippy lost his dream.


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Noir_Noir Sep 23, 2022 2:00 PM

:previous:


I don't think the Globe Cocktail Lounge would have been Jack's business. :shrug:

1317 E. 7th was owned by the Globe Dairy Lunch Company who operated a number of bars, cafes and a bakery.


https://i.imgur.com/Ra6DMBx.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org


Today it houses the offices of the Skid Row Housing Trust.


https://i.imgur.com/Kib1t83.jpg
GSV


I think the "work" he refers to on the back of the first beer parlor picture includes his barman job at the Globe Cocktail Lounge.

The two bars he owned were back around 1933 but I can only find a listing for him in 1937.


https://i.imgur.com/9ZQUzLO.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org


This is the Produce Hotel and is just yards around the corner from the Globe Cocktail Lounge site.


https://i.imgur.com/S1u0jml.jpg
GSV

ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2022 4:53 PM

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Noir Noir, this Globe menu from July 7, 1938 says the owner and operator is George Barraclough. . .and yet, much to my surprise, Jack Skippy signed the menu for someone named Lena. :shrug:


Where to begin?


How 'bout here.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/MTYrax.jpg
eBay





Now for the men's names. (Barraclough and Skippy)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/yLTJDG.jpg
eBay

I figured (wrongful, perhaps) that when Jack Skippy found himself in financial difficulties he sold his bar to George Barraclough.



. . .and here's Skippy's appearance on the menu.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/mxo6eT.jpg
eBay

I can't figure out why Jack Skippy would have signed the menu if he had nothing to do with place.





Just for fun let's take a closer look at the interior photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/86kGsz.jpg

Note that the address is 613 South Hill Street and not 1317 East Seventh Street.



. .and here's an example of the dinner choices.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/wLN8vp.jpg


. .and additional drink choices.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/CD5LnR.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/dhFE7p.jpg

:drunk:



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sopas ej Sep 23, 2022 6:14 PM

:previous:
I'm really trying to wrap my head around the prices; are those really all in cents?

Which is fine, but then, for example, you can get a bonded Old Fashioned for 35 cents, but then for only 20 cents more, you can get a whole roast sirloin?

These menus from the past really baffle me with the prices.

HossC Sep 23, 2022 7:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9739765)

Just for fun let's take a closer look at the interior photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/86kGsz.jpg

Note that the address is 613 South Hill Street and not 1317 East Seventh Street.

Here's the listing for the Globe Dairy Lunch Co from the 1937 CD. 613 South Hill Street seems to have been the office, but it's also listed as a restaurant location in other places/years.
[Globe] Dairy Lunch Co (G A Barraclough) office 613 S Hill restrs 629 S Olive, 1232 Produce ct, 418, 532 and 746½ S Spring, 248 Werdin pl, 116 W 3d, 118 W 4th and 1319 E 7th.
I think that the handwritten text above the interior picture says "Picture of one of our Bars Down town".

ethereal_reality Sep 23, 2022 8:22 PM

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I just had a flashback to a post from almost 10 years ago. (2013)

Barraclough's name is written in parenthesis after "Globe Coffee Shop". At the time I didn't know what it meant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6075900)

This is a very interesting photograph from the archive of a sign company.

http://imageshack.us/a/img191/2999/a...alheathdot.jpg
http://www.federalheath.com/company-...r-past/?pid=13

note the instructions on the photo: place the new sign 9'3" above the sidewalk and give the old globe lamp to the owner.

I've looked & looked for a later photo showing the new signage to no avail. What I did find was this matchbook (below)

http://imageshack.us/a/img803/3476/aabglobecoffeemb.jpg
ebay

I had no idea it was a cocktail lounge as well.


SoCal1954 followed up with information on Barraclough, HERE


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Mstimc Sep 23, 2022 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acorn8332 (Post 9737697)
Santa Monica Blvd. & Sepulveda Blvd. looking Southwest? The Eastbound traffic looks to be splitting off to the Santa Monica Blvd. South roadway (which becomes Little Santa Monica Blvd. in Beverly Hills). Street light at the far right is typical of those found on Santa Monica Blvd. West of Beverly Hills before the major reconfiguration for the busway. The white sign on the same corner was commonly used when two numbered routes intersected: (Former) CA-7 for Sepulveda Blvd. and (Former US-66) for Santa Monica Blvd.?

There's no shortage of VW bugs in this picture!

Earl Boebert Sep 23, 2022 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mstimc (Post 9740174)
There's no shortage of VW bugs in this picture!

Plus the one of making a left turn is being followed by a Type 3 :)

Cheers,

Earl

odinthor Sep 24, 2022 4:52 AM

More on our Mr. Barraclough:

https://i.postimg.cc/N0wznZ9q/Barrac...-1963-1-27.jpg
LA Times, 1/27/1963.

And his wife Gretchen:

https://i.postimg.cc/k4TYB4jq/Barrac...1962-11-12.jpg
LA Times, 1/27/1963.

Mrs. Barraclough, and likely George as well, seems to have been fun-loving. She did a fan dance at one social event, and here she is "attired as Cleopatra" for another event:

https://i.postimg.cc/pXHkRKVz/Barrac...-1916-4-27.jpg
LA Herald, 4/27/1916.

Other hijinks of the Barracloughs were a few tickets for speeding; and once Mr. Barraclough caught an employee red-handed, embezzling out of the till at an eatery, by . . . Barraclough's getting into a large box, with holes, which he had delivered to the premises in question, and from which he could observe the employee he suspected.

GaylordWilshire Sep 24, 2022 10:51 AM

:previous:


Still more Barraclough:


https://i.postimg.cc/xC59v5F2/WSQSIr...t1-USETHIS.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CKy8XMMK/WSQsir...2ndcard640.jpg



George Barrclough lived at 525 S Irving Blvd in Windsor Square for over 30 years. More here.


https://i.postimg.cc/SNhNBXC3/wsqsir...54-NLA-bmp.jpg


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