Love your argument about cars being more deadly than this virus.

Had you been around in the sixties, your argument about lack of car safety would likely have been;

- "So what, tobacco is bad for you, I can't imagine the Gummint outlawing smoking in public, likewise, people die from bad car design, what can we do about it?

When you have heroes (in my book) like Ralph Nader who are disparaged for wearing the same pair of shoes for forty years by the media, called out for being a commie when they confront Big Industry, then, you deserve what you get...


So, get back to normal, duh.

That isn't my argument. Read the conversation thread.

You sound like Chump. Fake noose.

Probably. They also had some help from officials that seemed to try to minimize the public health threat by emphasizing that older people are more susceptible. That undermined the point that nobody should assume they will have an uncomplicated experience if they contract covid-19. I have indirect connections to two people who have died so far that were supposed to be in the least risky group. I've never heard of anybody in my personal network dying from the flu.

Ya'll are being quarantined in this thread. We will now require your avatar to be a picture of your actual face and you must change your username to your real first, middle, last name.

Given that 80k people in the U.S. died in last year's flu, and about 600 in the U.S. died so far from Covid-19, this is not a good cost-benefit argument, at all.

The flu is 1) not as contagious, and 2) does not have as high of a mortality rate. If as many people catch covid-19 as have the flu in the U.S., we will see a LOT of deaths. You know this already so I don't know why you're even using this argument.

What is communicable is the respiratory distress via huffing and puffing when one gets behind a mini-van doing 45 in a 65 on the left lane. In NJ/NY, its a pandemic.

I'll huff and I'll puff, and I'll blow your van off the road. lol

I'll huff and I'll puff, and I'll blow your van off the road. lol

My primary care physician just sent out an email that he's got Covid-19. The office has been closed and he asked anyone who's been in during the month of March to self quarantine for 14 days (I hadn't been in over that time period).

He's actually a personal friend of mine, and he'd confided in me in recent years that he's exhausted and ready to retire.

Towards the end of the email he writes that's he's made the painful decision to close the office permanently in mid April.

My husband, a healthcare professional, got his second notification that he might have been exposed. They've told him to just wear a mask and watch for symptoms, and to keep coming in.

Damn...stay safe!

Ten minutes after getting that email from my primary care doc I got an email from my dentist that they are temporarily canceling all routine dental care and will see patients for urgent emergency dental needs only.

no, because first of all we know everything there is to know about why cars kill and injure. we know little about the virus and have even less experience than knowledge of it.

secondly, as we know so much about cars we have rules for them, roads, seatbelts, etc. to try to keep order with them. that is, we have systems well in place for dealing with them. we have no way to know what to do like that for corona other than guesses.

and lastly, as for deaths via cars, the auto death and injury and damage rates have long been deemed acceptable by society. we are far from even being in the ballpark to assume anything like that that with the unknown and blooming corona damages right now. funny thing, people are probably much more likely to catch a corona than crash a car right at this moment in time as most transportation has ground to a crawl while corona is spiking.

Chicago's Mayor Lightfoot just had a press conference, said the police are now prepared to enforce the shelter-in-place after officials saw too many people ignoring the order.

What is your point?

No.

I never said LETS GET BACK TO NORMAL TODAY.

I appreciate what the government is doing. My only point is when do we get back to normal and when do we accept whatever number of deaths as normal.

They've learned a lot from the Iranian mullahs about the value of identifying a "great Satan".

Unfortunately, as Iran is finding, that doesn't protect you from coronavirus.

Oregon is now in lockdown pretty hard. Most non essential businesses are at a standstill. The notion that millions of Americans could die sounds like malarkey as does our hospitals being overrun and overburdened. The death rate for pneumonia and influenza together at the same time is a staggering 10!%. Our new sneezy friend is more likely a coconspirator that is ushering in the demise of someone with a much worse malady. How much a life is worth is a distasteful subject but eventually I agree, that value will have to be weighed against the economic output octhe healthy populous....I'm also sure as shit this is the first viral virus. In 2008 barely 20 percent of the world had internet access. Sars, which is far more virulent didnt get 1/16th the press this bug is receiving. Wash your hands and stay safe but I fear the economic fallout 1000000x worse than Corona-cough.