I was hoping someone here might recognize one of these homes or perhaps locate the area by using the shape of the hills.


http://imageshack.us/a/img513/2052/a...tavenueusc.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1334100985470

USC has labeled this "Several residences west of Prospect Avenue, Hollywood".

Prospect Avenue became Hollywood Blvd. which runs east & west, so I'm thinking the caption should have been "Several residences north of Prospect Avenue, Hollywood". There was no date given.

From Gregory Paul Williams' The Story of Hollywood:

"in 1902, the Janes house appeared on Prospect Avenue as a model home in the Whitley tract. With the same architect as the Whitley tract house now known as The Magic Castle, the Janses' Queen Anne Victorian cottage boasted hardwood floors, stained glass windows, large front and back yards, and the most modern of kitchens.

The Janes family bought the three-bedroom house in 1904 after arriving by train from Aurora, Illinois, where their father, Herman, had retired from the furniture business. Three sisters and a brother, Carrie, Mary Grace, Mabel, and Donald, came with their parents.

The Janes sisters, after inheriting the house from their parents, lived there to old ages. Originally, their nearest neighbor was a block away. By the time the last Janes died (Carrie in 1982) the house stood in the middle of a very seedy Hollywood Boulevard."

(From another chapter) "After Mary Grace's husband Ernest died in 1964, the Janes sisters rarely left their kitchen. Carrie slept in a window seat. Mary Grace made a bed above some cabinets while Mabel slept in a padded chair. In 1967, the Hollywood Chamber Of Commerce tried to get them to move again, insisting that their land was worth $500,000. The sisters kept the door bolted and refused to answer. Mary Grace told a reporter, 'Mr. Whitley built this house, and he told us it was the best house he'd ever built. There's nothing wrong with it.'"

(From another chapter) "Vacant since the last sister, Carrie, died in 1986, the house's new owner wanted it demolished for a mini-mall. Using CRA incentives, Hollywood Heritage worked to spare the house. In 1987, the structure was pushed back on the lot and restored as a visitor's center. A poorly executed, Janes-house-themed mall rose in front of it."

From the L.A. Times, September 15 1985:

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Janes_House/Janes.1.jpg

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Janes_House/Janes.2.jpg
http://www.latimes.com/

:previous: Interesting details David/3940dxer....love the newspaper clippings.

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A rickety looking ski jump towering over the Los Angeles Coliseum in January 1939.


http://imageshack.us/a/img845/9852/a...kijump1939.jpg
found on ebay



http://imageshack.us/a/img191/6461/a...ijump1939a.jpg
reverse side of photo

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I thought this program was for the above ski event, but this event was a year earlier on February 27, 1938.

http://imageshack.us/a/img88/4382/aa...meet1938we.jpg
http://www.skilibrary.com/timeline2.html

OK, I just located the program for the 1939 event.

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/7999/aaskievent1939.jpg
http://www.skilibrary.com/timeline2.html

I much prefer the earlier program.

General Post to the members of Noirish Los Angeles. I have been "lurking" here for the last month or so. Not sure how I stumbled on your page but it had something to do with my 17th annual field trip leading 6th graders on a walking tour of downtown Los Angeles. One of my friends on Facebook said his dad used to work at the Hall of Records in L.A. so I did a little research on the old Hall of Records and the New Hall of Records. Probably how I ended up here. My point is, I have been HOOKED ever since on your pages. I started out on page 1 on Feb 24 and now it is April 10 and I am only on page 140. I spend an hour each night poring over your pages and reading the comments, familiarizing myself with the locations of the old buildings and so on. I love the "then and now" photos. I have lived in the L.A. area since 1963 as a 7th grader and recall very few trips downtown during those early years. I remember seeing the Occidental Building as a high rise south of downtown and actually sang on stage at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in 1969. I remember looking down the Civic Center Mall from the Music Center and see the Old Hall Of Records building (vaguely) and some man was telling me it was going to be removed soon to make the mall clear.
OK, so after seeing all these pictures of the Historic Core and the old Plaza area, I decided it was finally time to take myself on a sight seeing tour of some of these old neighborhoods and see how it looks today. I did that yesterday and have a ton of pictures to share with you guys IF you're interested. Mind you, the last 17 years of taking kids on tours, I mainly stayed in the Civic Center and Music Center and New Bunker Hill area, ending up at Westin Bonaventure Hotel, the Central Library, then a subway trip on the Red Line back to Union Station and the Metrolink back to Orange. I wanted to break free of that I go where I wanted so I did.
Anyway, Thanks again for ALL the OLD file photos you guys have dug up and posted. I am very grateful and hope to contribute lots more in the months ahead.

L.A. library has a 1905 photo looking northeast from Hollywood Boulevard at Cherokee, and I'm pretty sure the hillside houses in your photo are in the distance right of center: jpg1.lapl.org/pics39/00039371.jpg It's hard to tell just how far away they are, though. Could it be Whitley Heights, or are they east of Cahuenga Pass?

So I went back and watched "Spartacus" again. They shot this particular scene almost entirely in near-close-up (obviously to avoid even the suggestion that the 101 was a few hundred feet away). I haven't watched it that closely in years, but I was surprised at how many of the exteriors were shot around L.A. The "forum" scene was shot on the Universal back lot and I believe that some of the structures are still there (with different facades). I recognized (I think), parts of the Valley and the Angeles National Forest as well. And here all this time I thought they'd made the movie in Italy.

Welcome to the thread alanlutz! We would love to see your photos.

I finally found a photo of the Hitching Post Theater. I've never heard of an all-western theater until your post Joe Vogel.

http://imageshack.us/a/img193/6459/p...osttheater.jpg
postcard/ebay

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That's so cool jg6544, it's like rediscovering the movie....makes me want to run to the library and check out Spartacus again!




http://imageshack.us/a/img843/6449/a...acusextras.jpg
http://thegeneralassembly.tumblr.com/

I wonder how Mr. Kubrick dealt with those jet entrails?

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I would appreciate a little help here.
When I first moved to Los Angeles in '79 I took residence at this building on the corner of Wilshire Blvd. and Veteran in Westwood.
The address was 10990 Wilshire Blvd. A high-rise office building stands there now directly across Veteran from the Federal building.
Here you can see the ariel photo of the building just to the right of the Fed building across veteran Ave.:

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...-54-R3-25-ISLA

I would very much appreciate any more photos or stories that anybody can find about this building (I already know about Chris' Water Buffalo club - funny story/history)

When I lived there the main front business was The Who's Who Passport Photos with bar around the corner sporting the same name where I spent many blissful hours....

I believe the building was originally called The Barbizon or Barbazon Chateau.

My apt. was at the bay window, 2nd floor just to the right of the round tower. Jonathan Dayton co-director of Little Miss Sunshine lived across the hall from me then in the apartment with the square window, 2nd floor, far right. He was attending UCLA Film School and hired us musicians to play at "Kerckhoff Coffee House" being in charge then:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...os/WhosWho.jpg

This street photo is by Anne Laskey:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...LaskeyAnne.jpg

http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/D...wdate=&hidate=

I would appreciate if anybody could find more photos or history on this building.

If this was another movie, one about a plane crash, say--there might be entrails from a plane among the entrails of the corpses in this shot... just kidding, e_r--actually, the streaks in the sky are contrails...

I realize that I must cancel all future trips. A few days away from the thread and so much to catch up on. Great posts, everyone.

You would not get me up on that damn thing for a million bucks!

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2...tavenueusc.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1334100985470


Here is Joe's photo from the library. It looks like the right place. The LAPL says the arrow points to the P.B. Chase house, if that helps anyone.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7635/hillsw.jpg
LAPL


If the library is correct that the photo looks northeast from Hollywood Blvd. and Cherokee, then we are looking at this area:

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4177/hollywoodm.jpg
Google Maps

Speaking of Spartacus, I came across this photo recently and saved it, since the Cahuenga Pass is one of my obsessions. If it was originally here, my apologies for not crediting the poster, but I can't find the page now. Anyway, this is Kubrick filming Spartacus somewhere in the Cahuenga Pass.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Cahuenga/...us1959huge.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/

Not absolutely certain, but as I recall, he did the post-battle shot as a "walk-through" shooting down at the fallen slaves with no sky in the background.

If I had to guess, I'd say it has all been covered over by the Universal Studios amusement park parking lots today.

Thanks, ER. Just one thing. I have only been viewing and haven't figured out the easy steps to post my photos. Seems that they want a URL when I click on "insert image". Does that mean I have to upload them to Flickr or something like that first? Is there a way to just upload them to the reply from my computer. Thanks in advance and I look forward to sharing. One of the sets I have are from the observation deck at City Hall looking out in all directions. At least 12 shots from there.

lol...how embarrassing!

Yes, you need to upload your photographs to a photo sharing site (I use imageshack)
but even then some people have issues posting photos to this forum.

Several people here (notably 3940dxer) will be more than willing to help if you run in to any difficulties.

Good luck! :)

Here's another 'mystery' photo from ebay. The only information given was 1920s Los Angeles.

I know there are several knowledgeable transit fans that visit the thread, and was hoping one could identify this odd looking contraption.

To me it looks like a trolley rear ended a car.



http://imageshack.us/a/img190/9540/a...sit1920sla.jpg
found on ebay

Here's another one. Cool windows! I've never heard of these "gasoline powered rail buses" before.

Great site: http://museumsanfernandovalley.blogs...1_archive.html

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...achreduced.jpg

Here's another interesting site on gasoline powered rail buses:

http://www.kinglyheirs.com/AbandonedRR/BuddRDC1.html

This one still exists in Nevada:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...tos/mckeen.jpg

http://steampunkworkshop.com/mckeen-motor-car

:previous: It looks like a Jules Verne design.

I just found this one from 1968. Isn't that the building across from the highrises?:

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...-C26-ISLA?v=hr
USC Library

No but thanks. That's a good find anyhow because it shows that there were other similar buildings in the area.
"My" building was right on the corner or Wilshire Blvd and Veteran, catty-corner(sp?) from the Spanish American War Memorial that can just be made out looking like a white finger at the far left where Wilshire hits the edge of the photo.

Yessir! That spells Nautilus!

I don't remember seeing this photograph of Clifton's Brookdale Cafeteria.


http://imageshack.us/a/img213/2421/a...soldpicweb.jpg
http://cyclopeatron.blogspot.com/201...-cliftons.html

The interior of this branch at 648 S. Broadway was patterned after the Brookdale Lodge in the Santa Cruz Mountains
where Clifton spend time as a youth.


below: Clifton's inspiration....the interior of the Brookdale Lodge.
http://gregorybransontrentsghosthunt...ale-lodge.html

http://imageshack.us/a/img406/7080/a...pirebrookd.png



below: Interior of Clifton's Brookdale.

http://imageshack.us/a/img440/8469/a...orcliftons.jpg
http://www.newnownext.com/cliftons-c...dates/06/2011/


Supposedly the restaurant can be seen in the 1950 classic noir D.O.A. but I can't recollect the scene
(I haven't seen the movie in years).

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Here is the interior of Clifton's Brookdale as it looks today. -kitsch overload-

http://imageshack.us/a/img33/5485/aa...nsmain2web.jpg
http://cyclopeatron.blogspot.com/201...-cliftons.html

Helicopter over the Los Angeles Civic Center (no date).

http://imageshack.us/a/img190/3716/aakmpcebay1.jpg
found on ebay



http://imageshack.us/a/img189/4361/aakmpcebay1r.jpg
the photographer's stamp

e_r, I couldn't resist heading up there for a look. Here's your Grandview Lookout, in all its glory. I'd never been aware of this spot before, but it's really pretty impressive. Here's a view of the lookout spot itself:

http://dkse.net/david/Elysian/100_6553.1200.jpg


Here's the view to the South:

http://dkse.net/david/Elysian/100_6555.1200b.jpg


And the view that blew me away...looking to the Northeast:

http://dkse.net/david/Elysian/100_6556.1200.jpg

Man, is that a busy scene, or what! I get dizzy just looking at it. From front to back we have the railroad tracks heading up towards the Valley, Riverside Drive, the L.A. River, then San Fernando Road, and then the 5 freeway. On the left is the Figueroa Bridge (with Fig heading off into the distance), to its right the Pasadena Freeway, with various ramps connecting it to the 5, and, barely visible, the North (Arroyo) tributary of the L.A. Rover. The Gold Line tracks are on the far right.

:previous: That's so great David! I was hoping someone would go up there.





I know we settled this a page or two ago but I just came across this 1945 photograph that show the canopies from above
(but I still don't see a vent).

http://imageshack.us/a/img442/1539/aaawning1945.jpg
found on ebay

I believe this photo has been posted before, but it fits perfectly in our 'canopy' discussion.

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Good luck Moxie in your quest to find all the Los Angeles locations of SMK.

It was especially great to see the interior of Perino's and that's a great view of the Ambassador Hotel
(despite the bright sunlight the hotel looks rather ominous).

ER, and the rest of you guys:

I uploaded them to my Google Picasa account. I made this album public so you should be able to see all of them. I'll see if I can now embed individual shots. Here is the link to the album. I'm sure you'll recognize many of the building and intersections but I'll start labeling them now: https://plus.google.com/photos/10587...57782495364385

yeah thats wilshire and westwood veteran would be further west still a great pic

Alas...it's just a brief scene with the Clifton's sign in the background, not the interior of the restaurant.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-M...s720/DOA-1.jpg
[source: GMVS Entertainment]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9...s720/DOA-2.jpg
[source: GMVS Entertainment]

Might as well throw in these locations too!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Z...s720/DOA-3.jpg
[source: GMVS Entertainment]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O...s720/DOA-4.jpg
[source: GMVS Entertainment]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-s...s720/DOA-5.jpg
[source: GMVS Entertainment]

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/7...eimert1938.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3...andleimert.jpg

West 43rd Place from Garthwaite, March 3, 1938, and now.


Pics: Los Angeles Times/GoogleSV


Edit: I was looking for an old post unrelated to the above...and found by accident that I had inadvertently repeated Fred H's post of last December 13....

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4426/union1.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-v...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m...ongoodwill.jpg


Several incarnations of what was originally Carl's Supermarket at 1530 West 6th Street at Loma Drive, designed by Morgan, Walls & Clements and built in 1933. I looked for a shot of the building closer to its completion, but came up empty-handed. As of the last Google Street View pass, it's Goodwill.


Library of Congress/you-are-here.com/GoogleSV

Thanks! We've got plenty of determination, so I'm sure we'll manage it.

And you are very right about the ominous look to the hotel with so many windows being boarded up. They do comment in the episode about the "old girl" having seen better days, which I'm sure was just as much about the Ambassador as it was the "Cumberland Grand" that it was "playing" in that particular episode. I also figured not many things may have been filmed in the basement of the hotel and you all might appreciate seeing it (or the Ladies Room at Perino's) since there may not be many photos in the archives.

[QUOTE=Handsome Stranger;5663416]Alas...it's just a brief scene with the Clifton's sign in the background, not the interior of the restaurant.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9...s720/DOA-2.jpg
[source: GMVS Entertainment]
[QUOTE]

Your screen-grabs from D.O.A. were just what I was looking for Handsome_Stranger.
I wonder what the brightly lit store to the left of the cafeteria entrance is? The sign appears to have a clock on it so maybe it's a jewelers....but why so bright? It's lit up like a small amusement arcade.

I'll have to go back and look at previously posted photos (like the one I just posted...duh).

Speaking of amusement arcades, that's one subject that seems to be entirely missing from this thread. I know there were
numerous open-front arcades in downtown Los Angeles and yet I don't recall any photos. In my opinion a sketchy late night arcade parlor
is extremely 'noirish'.

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/9524/190old.jpghttp://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1820/190now.jpg

190 N. Cañon Drive, Beverly Hills


:previous:
It was indeed a jewelry store, e_r... Toni's, at 646 S. Broadway....


USCDL/GoogleSV

:previous: Thanks Gaylord_Wilshire :) I like that before/after....notice how WRONG that tacked on 'neoclassical' entrance is.
The design has nothing in common with the rest of the building. Perhaps the 'regal' entrance was added for a new tenant
(maybe a consulate?)

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A nice California bungalow at 1216 Sycamore Avenue.


http://imageshack.us/a/img62/6937/aa...6sycamorea.jpg
ebay



below: 1216 Sycamore Avenue as it appears today.

http://imageshack.us/a/img850/6937/a...6sycamorea.jpg
google street view

The two biggest changes are the missing chimney and the porch steps that have been moved to the right side of the porch.
(and of course the fence with the electronic gate) You can also see where the chimney used to be, the shingles at that spot are lighter in color than the rest of the roof.




below: Here's the same view at a slight angel to compare the side windows. At first I thought the neighboring house was different than the one in the 1920s view but that isn't the case.

http://imageshack.us/a/img138/8568/a...6sycamore1.jpg




The neighboring house that you can see is actually across an empty lot.

http://imageshack.us/a/img703/5479/a...6emptylots.jpg




below: This aerial shows that the garage at 1216 is gone and a small rental has been built in the backyard. The remnants of a foundation can still be seen in the empty lot.

http://imageshack.us/a/img72/6937/aa...6sycamorea.jpg
google aerial


All the bungalows on the 1200 block of Sycamore are on the east side of the street. The west side of the street has been developed with modern apartment buildings.

OK, I think I've fixated enough on this bungalow. ;)

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Perino's
 

Does anyone know whether the Perino's scene in "Mommie Dearest" ("That is MY table at Perino's!") was filmed in the restaurant or was it filmed on a sound stage?

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4921/dogsign.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-n...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-N...2520PM.bmp.jpg

Dr. Moxley's veterinary clinic was the first in town to offer pickup service for grooming. Interesting building, too, built in 1930 and still at 940 N. Highland. Detail of the façade:

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9...xleydetail.jpg


Top left:Arcadia Publishing/others: GoogleSV

:previous: I like that dog G_W. I think there is another 'dog' sign that is missing it's head.
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Does anyone recognize this Los Angeles area Drive-In? (May 57)

http://imageshack.us/a/img29/4458/aa...einpossibl.jpg
ebay

I wonder why the structure holding the screen is so 'thick' (for lack of a better word) What in the world would be in there...empty space?

While searching for the headless dog sign I came across this kitschy hog dog stand located at Wilshire & 3rd (Santa Monica?)


http://imageshack.us/a/img845/6955/a...western3rd.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/65359853@N00/6776284694/

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I just did me some more googlin' :) It is indeed Santa Monica.
The left highrise in the background is the Fairmont Miramar Hotel and the one on the right is the Santa Monica Bay Towers.
The older low-slung building is still there as well.

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http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/139/61046071.jpg
Los Angeles Times

This general view shows motorists arriving from the east along U.S. Highway 99-70 or 60, as
they enter Los Angeles on May 30, 1947. The Los Angeles City Hall tower is the tall building left
of the left lane, and the post office is right of the right lane. (Associated Press)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...2520PM.bmp.jpghttp://img851.imageshack.us/img851/2528/lydeckerxx.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2439/lydeckerbig.jpg


The 1939 Lydecker house in Studio City--designed as his own residence by movie special-effects master Howard Lydecker. More here and here. It's at 3820 Buena Park Drive, Studio City.


Pics: lydeckerhouse.blogspot.com/

:previous: That's such a great house G-W! I especially liked that first link you provided.


Of course when I saw the name Lydecker I thought of Clifton Webb's character in the classic noir 'Laura'.

http://imageshack.us/a/img703/8892/aalauralydecker0.gif
20th Century Fox

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http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/889...tcolorized.jpgbn.com

While looking for more on Clifton Webb, I was diverted by this haunting colorized picture of the Black Dahlia. Apparently Steve Hodel has yet another book out insisting that his father
was her killer, as well as the killer of just about every unsolved-murder victim from Manila to the moon. I can't remember what the consensus is about his claims--to me, his cottage industry
capitalizing on the back of his admittedly creepy father seems pathological in itself. Anyway, I'm over buying books on the case (and way over Steve Hodel's exploitative obsession)
so probably won't buy it until I see it at a garage sale, but I was wondering if anyone has read this new book, Black Dahlia Avenger II? It seems to be published through a vanity press.


http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1764/laurabh.jpg20th Century-Fox

That's Waldo Lydecker in the tub in Laura, with "The Profile" Dana
Andrews, playing a detective, no doubt trying to avert his eyes.