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My recollection of the history that I had pieced together, as best as I can recall after about 10 years, was that there were two houses on the lots that were cleared for construction. One of those houses was called "Ruth Manor", again, I seem to remember it was the name of the the owner/builder/occupant. Then when the apartment building was completed it was called "The Ruth Manor Flats" (IIRC). Again, as I understand it, at first the building's wings didn't extend all the way to the sidewalk on Cherokee, and may have only been 3 stories tall. (I was of the impression that the 4th floor was added at some point after the initial construction, possibly when they added the extensions which I think happened around 1930-31). As for the news article discrepancies, I think that could just be chalked up one of several explanations, like funding falling through somewhere, contract disputes, governmental corruption, partners pulling out (:redface:), architect firms folding, or just good old fashioned unabashed, over-the-top hype. I would seem that at the very least, there was some turn-over with the architects, or construction company. It does prove to be consistent with plenty of other early concept "artist's rendering" looking nothing like the completed project. Thank you for the permit and the articles. I had not seen either of those before. Finally, if I understand correctly, I think that the building's name has now been changed back to "The Canterbury". If so, I would say: "Thank goodness". |
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Well, you might see the ghost of Percy Kilbride ("Pa Kettle"), who was struck by a car at Yucca and Cherokee in 1964. He died several months later from complications from his injuries. And, if you go further up Cherokee, above Yucca, you can look for the ghost of Elizabeth Short, who lived at the Chancellor. The Chancellor also had a name change in the past couple of years to the Chateau Hollywood. |
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After poking around Ancestry.com, I find there is a Leonardo Del Sonno who left his hometown of Osara di Puglia, Italy, to travel to Naples where on September 18, 1920, he sailed on the SS Canada and arrived in New York (Ellis Island) on October 4 with $16 in his pocket. He is listed as a 15-year-old peasant who spoke Italian (duh), could read and write, and was on his way to Philadelphia, where his brother Pasquale lived at 810 Montrose Street. His health condition was listed as "Good," and he was not a polygamist or anarchist (yes, those questions are on the form). There is a Leonard Del Sonno living at 712 League Street in Philadelphia on February 16, 1942, according to his draft registration. Birthdate is May 18, 1904, and his contact person at the same address is Mrs. Jean Del Sonno (not his mother). He works as a painter for Angelo Guirico at 330 Noble Street in Philadelphia. He has a scar on his right cheek and is 5'6", 135 lbs. Leonard married the former Josephine Tierno on July 2, 1946, but the location is not listed other than somewhere in California. In 1950, he and Josephine are registered to vote at 1308 Glendale Blvd. in Los Angeles. By 1956-58, they lived at 1330-1/2 Allesandro Street. The August 4, 1961, The Citizen News shows Leonard owed delinquent assessments of $8.88 on each of two parcels (Lots 22 and 23, Tract 5036) in the Hollywood Boulevard and Sunset Boulevard Lighting District. If he didn't pay by September 5, his properties would be sold. Perhaps the building in your 1973 photo sat on those two lots? There is a Josephine Delsonno (b. Feb 18 1916) who died in Delaware County, PA, on August 26, 2003. Her Philly.com obituary on August 28 describes her as "beloved wife of the late Leonard." Leonard does appear to have passed on April 7, 1981, in Los Angeles zip code 90026. Does any of that help? I know none of it is lamp-related . . . . |
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I believe the theatre playing "Oil For The Lamps of China" was the Warner Bros Theatre built in 1931, located at Wilshire and Canon.
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Fascinating clip. But I find the colorization grotesque and off-putting. The footage would have a much greater impact without it, in my opinion. |
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Thank you Flyingwedge. Looks like they didn't have any kids. Amazing how little info there is on him.
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The great and powerful Marc Wanamaker of Bison Archives took this photo of Tiny Naylor's drive-in at Sunset and La Brea in 1984 and captured the short-lived Tiny Naylor's steak house (under the Don Rickles billboard) shorn of its googie I-beam and encrusted with some artificial stone in the background at 7127 Sunset Boulevard. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6988bf18_b.jpg It lasted for about one year in 1954 before becoming Art Williams' Eldorado Club. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6c40a67acf.jpg LATimes 6/15/57 Then it becomes The Purple Lion https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...db123b0fd6.jpg LATimes 6/28/72 https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...041ff451_z.jpg 8/3/73 Van Nuys News shows it as Ali Baba's, which it remained until demolition in 1984. https://wonderland1981.files.wordpre...llah-henri.jpg Performer Kamala Almanzar at Ali Baba's https://wonderland1981.com/2015/11/0...lub-ali-babas/ when it was owned by...(back to noir) Eddie Nash. "Former Hollywood nightclub owner Eddie Nash pleaded guilty Monday to federal racketeering charges, abruptly ending his 20-year cat-and-mouse game with authorities who have long believed he played the lead role in one of Southern California’s more lurid murder mysteries...." https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...553-story.html Quote:
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Peters family photos of the Getty mansion used during the filming of "Sunset Blvd"
I was recently contacted by a woman whose grandparents were the caretakers of the Getty mansion used as exteriors for Norma Desmond’s home in “Sunset Boulevard” and asked me if would I like to see some family photos of their time there. I was expecting a 3 or 4 shots, but she sent me 25, all of which appear to have been taken when “Sunset Boulevard” was being filmed. You can see the rest of them on my website: https://wp.me/p5XK3w-5H5
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AMPAS has announced the Oscars are going to be held at Union Station!
https://www.greatamericanstations.co...Moser-2018.jpg According to Metro, the April 25 Oscars will be held in the building’s Historic Ticketing Hall, the Grand Waiting Room, the main entrance along Alameda Street and on the north and south patios. Should be interesting! |
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Here is a c. 1910 photo from Calisphere with no location specified beyond DTLA:
https://i.imgur.com/Y6ELJOt.jpg calisphere.org At first glance I thought the large building in the background was the Continental Building at 408 S Spring but looking closely at it, the windows don't quite match. But still, this is a really substantial building for 1910 so maybe remodeled? https://i.imgur.com/Q9GOJTD.jpg Google Earth Pro There are some partial clues: https://i.imgur.com/06FQx2c.jpg Stephenson Avenue east of the LA River was renamed Whittier Boulevard in 1921. The Baist atlases show that the name also existed west of the river, roughly along what today is Traction Avenue and 2nd St. Since the placard says "cemeteries" it looks like the car is outbound. There are some business names visible in this enlargement: https://i.imgur.com/rkxrVvZ.jpg T. Coblentz ran a grocery store at 727 S Grand in 1910; Thos. Varney was a signmaker; idk if the Coblentz sign here was the store itself or just some randomnly placed billboard. I suspect some here will identify the tall buildings in the background, which would help locating this intersection: https://i.imgur.com/ZiGU8Qy.jpg |
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Lorendoc, dunno if this will help, but this stretcar line had the following outbound routing in that era: From 7th & Hope Sts. via 7th, Boyle Ave. and Stephenson Ave. to Cemeteries. Total distance was 5.41 miles. Stephenson Ave. was renamed Whittier Blvd. after 1919. Consulting LARy track maps (albeit from the 1930s), the only intersection I can find with that precise arrangement (a double-track junction diverging from westboud to southbound) is at W. 7th St. and Grand Ave. Beginning in 1915, the corner of interest in your photo was occupied by Robinson's Department Store. At that time, Robinson's was using the entire frontage along 7th from Grand to Hope St. and widened out into a fat L-shape along Hope. If its predecessor was a one-story structure, the building shown in your first photo would appear to match that footprint as far as we can tell. Good luck with your search. |
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I'm actually more interested in that square tower or turret. I thought for a moment that it looked kind of like the one on the 3rd L.A. Times building, but it doesn't match. It also bares a passing resemblance to the old clock tower on the old courthouse, but again, too different. I tried looking up schools and churches, and was still unable to find an exact match. The tall square building looks a lot like the Barclay Hotel. But I see some differences that make me doubt that's what it is. It also looks a lot like the Cahuenga Building (Hollywood Blvd. and Cahuenga). :shrug: |
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The top windows are not the same. On this building, it looks like the top two floor's windows are set into recessed arches. With a wider set in the middle. It looks a lot like a John Parkinson building to me. The arches on the P.E. building are only 1 floor, and don't have sets. Not to mention the number of windows. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...T_p9U7WYFiiVmF |
Thanks Sakhal Nakhash, rick_m, and HenryHuntington for your ideas. HH's comment about the route of the Stephenson Ave. line led me to look at the Sanborn of 7th/Grand and vicinity. There was an oddly shaped building which got my curiousity (circled). It is labelled "Simpson's Auditorium":
https://i.imgur.com/YDcHgr0.jpg lapl.org The LAPL has a picture of this: https://i.imgur.com/zCbTGL9.jpg lapl.org ...so yay the turret matches. The tallest finial is at the NW corner of the turret, so it appears that the original photo was taken from a vantage point NE of the Auditorium. And so the Coblentz sign probably represented the actual grocery store and not just a billboard. Also the tall windowed building is not the Continental Bldg. because it would be out of frame of the original picture. |
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So, our mystery building with the arches is the YMCA building at 715 S Hope Street. It was demolished around 1970. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds LAPL |
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Yes, it's 7th and Grand. The building in the foreground was a post office: Photograph of an exterior view of the Los Angeles Post office on the southwest corner of Seventh Street and Grand Avenue, 1910-1920. The single-story post office is at center and is made of brick with stone trim. Several pedestrians can be seen on the sidewalk around the building, while bicycles and vendor carts are parked in the unpaved street. Several sets of tracks are visible in the road, and a line of utility poles runs parallel to them on the curb. The post office moved to this location in November 1904 and moved away in September 1910 to Main and Winston Streets. This was the site of a former cable house, and later the site of J. W. Robinson Company Department Store. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...A7thGrand3.jpg USC Digital Library |
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That structure was originally built as a cable railroad powerhouse. There is a photo of the building, decorated for opening day, in the March 1890 edition of The Street Railway Journal. According to an article in the January 23, 1939, Los Angeles Times, the old cable powerhouse was the main LA post office for a few years just before the 1910 Federal Building/Post Office opened at the NW corner of Temple and Main. |
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Simpson Auditorium AKA Simpson's Auditorium was built as a Methodist church in 1888 and later became the Third Church of Christian Science. It was demolished in 1974. The building was designed by C.E. Apponiyi
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I used to go to the Downtown Y at 7th and Hope, 1956 to 1962. I took the bus. Summer and Xmas vacation programs - my mom got me out of the house and off the street, and to meet boys from from different parts of LA. Swimming pool in the basement, two big gyms, with an indoor track on the upper level around the perimeter of the room, and a smaller boxing and wrestling gym. Upstairs was lodging.
Before and after the programs, mornings and afternoons, I’d explore downtown - department stores, book stores, cutlery shops, music stores, news stands, etc. |
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My father used to give me one dollar and 3 cents [tax] to go to store, Newberry's, to get a toy. I would buy a model car kit. Back in those 3% tax days, the state of CA had millions of surplus funds. The Golden Years of CA. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK3Ult1PR98 Yet another remastered, colorized, sound added film....this one starts out on Hill St., goes past the Town Theater where "Butterfield 8" is playing, so that dates the clip to 1960 (assuming "Butterfield" was in first-run)....the film then jumps to the 5700 block of Santa Monica Blvd., heading west.... Just past Gower, at 6121 Santa Monica, we get a look at the Ice Capades headquarters, complete with a twirling skater....HossC covered that building here...https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...0279&page=1584 |
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Didn't that twirling Ice Capades skater end up somewhere else? Adorning a roller rink -- I want to say on Lincoln Boulevard around Culver City?
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As far as savings rates go, I earned 15% on treasury bills, notes and bonds in 1981, and even banks paid that much on CDs. My mistake then was not to lock in these high rates for 10 or 20 years. I would settle for 5% now, but the FED keeps rates artificially low hurting retired people on fixed incomes. To earn even close to 5% now you have to buy risky things like junk bonds. But then you worry about return of your principal. |
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Here is a handsome (if you like giant pediments and Ionic columns of various sizes) apartment building. Small cards saying "rooms" are taped to some windows.
https://i.imgur.com/BRoW80H.jpg The label at Calisphere for this is: "Exterior view of a Colonial Revival-style apartment building at 94042 South Figueroa Street in Los Angeles, [s.d.]. That block of S Fig is somewhere off the coast of San Diego. (and the 94042 zip code is Mountain View, CA) But the steep grade suggests Bunker Hill... |
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but maybe in the hills to the north of downtown, on N. Fig like Highand Park or Mt. Washington? It might be on Bunker Hill, but look at all the trees in the backround. Was that characteristic of old BH? Perhaps in spots. The best bet is to ID the multistory building to the right. One of the sleuths here can do it. |
Come back ER. Not the same without you here trying to herd the cats and keep the topics from wandering into non noirish L.A. directions. I spend hours here. It is great to remember the way things used to be.
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The nightingale tells his fairytale of paradise where roses grew.
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According to the good folks over at Water and Power: "(ca. 1889) View showing a Colonial Revival-style apartment building located on 6th Street west of South Figueroa Street in Los Angeles. The main entrance is flanked by two massive columns, and a balcony can be seen over the front double doors. Two cement stairways lead to covered walkways on the sides of the building, while another set of stairs leads to the front door. A thee-story rectangular building can be seen at right." https://waterandpower.org/museum/Ear...s)_4_of_6.html When I looked up the Sanborn Map for that location, it appears that in the immediate area around 6th and Figueroa, the streets are somewhat haphazardly arranged. It shows that Figueroa Street dead-ends abruptly at what the map is indicating is 6th street, but it looks more like 5 and 1/2th street. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7d347922_b.jpg |
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I'm so far not able to find a photo that gives a clear view of that specific location.
My best guess is that it would have been directly behind the St. Paul's Cathedral (2nd one on Figueroa), across the street to the south of the Bellevue Terrace Hotel, (Johnathan Club). Just to the left of this frame: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...-5790.1%29.jpg Perhaps one of these buildings in the top-right background? https://farm2.static.flickr.com/1244...77831646a4.jpg |
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My vote goes to this being a photo of 940-42 West 6th Street, in the block west of Figueroa. We may have gotten 94042 South Figueroa by someone mixing up the streets and leaving out an en dash. At right, we see the east wall of the three-story Parodia Apartments at 944 West 6th. Both buildings are on the 1906 Sanborn Map at the Library of Congress. Both buildings were also damaged by fire on July 1, 1915, as this Los Angeles Herald article describes (though incorrectly giving the address of the Colonial Revival-style building as 640 instead of 940). You can see both 940-42 and 944 West 6th just above the bottom center of this west-facing 1929 panoramic view, immediately behind the Rex Arms on the north side. The roof of 940-42 is different than in the older photo because of the 1915 fire damage, but the east wall of 944 looks the same in both photos. Demolition permits for both 940-42 and 944 West 6th were issued in May 1932. Thanks to Lorendoc for posting the photo and to Sakhal Nakhash for the crucial tip about 6th Street! |
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