:previous: You solved the mystery, Odinthor! :worship:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/fzom6T.jpg
That sure does help, Michael. Now we have the definitive answer. :)

(thanks for asking your friend over at the observatory)

.

:previous: The Riddell family! Thanks again, Odinthor.

This is probably a daft question: Doesn't "time indictators" simply mean watches'?



GW, I had forgotten that Williams Andrews Clark Jr.'s lover was a man. (his name was Harrison Post)

To read more about Mr. Post's life go to adamsboulevardhouses. There are several unexpected twists and turns. (for one thing, he ended up in a concentration camp in 1939 Germany)


P.S....The male companion's Roll Royce, that GW mentioned, was painted yellow and black, like a bumble bee. (no shrinking violet, that one ;))
.

You can see the Hollywood M'Goo's (in pink & purple) in this youtube video link at the 00:59 second mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzUad7f1cfQ

Several movie marquees (Thunderball, Madame X, Born Free, War Lord, Made in Paris, Do Not Disturb) indicate the youtube film dates from the early months of 1966. The video travels from just west of the Chinese Theatre to the Stromberg Jeweler's clock, right before the Warner Theatre (later the Pacific Theatres).

M'Goo's facing east. Owl Drugs on the corner.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/f3...8ab4b3225c.jpgMaria Mancini/pinterest
(I linked this photo from pinterest. Don't have a hosting site at the moment, so it'll probably disappear at some point as pinterest photos are
wont to do.)


Below: Love's Restaurant (again!) is on the right, so it dates after 1966. (In the video the location is Owl Drugs.)

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4a&oe=5DDE84AFVLA/Facebook

A source I read today says M'Goo's closure because of the fire was in 1975.

More like a speed-o-meters. ;)


https://books.google.com/books?id=ga...page&q&f=false

Thanks Martin for those pictures of M'Goo's

You are welcome! :tup:

I could not find any of the Pasadena or Westwood locations, though. The menu you posted indicates there are also M'Goo's in London, Rome, Paris, Tel Aviv and...Azusa!

While we figured out where is...I was in DTLA this afternoon, so I though I'd get a current version of that shot...

https://i.postimg.cc/NGxhq6Kx/20190823-144738-A-bj.jpg by me.

Not much has changed.

:previous: It actually looks much better. Thanks for the pic. Bill. :)

It's my mad photo skilz, ER.

(Actually I think the addition of the bougainvillea planters probably is the difference.)

True but someone is going to have to sweep up those annoying little leaves :(

This is a high class joint, they have people for that.

The following three photographs just turned up on eBay.

They show a dirt road known as the 'Mount Hollywood Trail' in 1916.

This first one is the most haunting (and my personal favorite) It shows a somewhat deteriorated pergola along the trail somewhere near Franklin St.

#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/Ilrn7O.jpg
eBay

I'm dying to know where this pergola was located. (I'm not even sure where the trail was located)



REVERSE #1

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/aeORKw.jpg

:previous: I don't know what the last line means... ...something about lights. :shrug:










The next photograph shows the trail with a sign. (but the sign is impossible to read)

#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/FKG02i.jpg
eBay


REVERSE #2

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/l5eiqx.jpg












The last photograph was taken from the top of Mount Hollywood looking towards Glendale and Pasadena.

#3https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/ptnn8q.jpg
eBay


REVERSE #3

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/6XgRlL.jpg


I tried to find an old map that includes the 'Mount Hollywood Trail' but I haven't had any luck.............................yet.



I'm refraining from getting my whip out.
.

e_r: "Twinkling" lights?

ER

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/l5eiqx.jpg

"Trail up to Mt. Hollywood."

That's what I was thinking, too.

But looking at the photo that brings up a question.

:shrug:

Some galoot conked da guy on da head, an' he was seein' stars!

Great great grandma at Ship Cafe, Venice California
 

Somebody recently sent me this photo of her great great grandmother standing outside the Ship Cafe in what she educated-guessed the early 1920s. She wanted confirmation that it was the famous one in Venice. Looking at other photos I have, I was able to match that intricate strip of carved wood. But that circular light fixture above the woman's head proved to be something else again. In none of the photos I have or any I found on a Google image search was I able to see that fixture. My guess is that it's inside the entrance that was later built onto the side of the "ship" it was lost in the fire. But if anyone reading this has a photo of the Ship Cafe which shows that light fixture, I would love to see it.

https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...ornia-copy.jpg

I'm here to help(being that I'm a loyal minion), the US Government is your friend. Here's the USGS topo map from 1928:

https://i.postimg.cc/FzbY1f23/Annota...-25-131757.jpgvia USGS

You can see a road that follows(though a bit more curvy) the current path of Commonwealth as it curves west to Vermont Canyon Road and Vista Del Vale Road as it then heads north though the park. If you took this route to Mt. Hollywood(and I have) you'd exit Vista Del Vale just below Glendale Peak and climb up the hogback(the ridge looks like a hog's back) to Dante's View and then up to the summit.

When I first saw the second picture I thought it might be a picture of Mt. Bell(north of Mt. Hollywood), since I'd taken a picture there almost 100 years to the day latter(I took my pic on Jan. 21, 2016). But there's a small mountain(informally known as "Taco Peak") between Mt. Bell and Mt. Hollywood. So that wasn't it.

(My guess on the first pic is that it's near Commonwealth and Franklin, but that's just a WAG).

The third picture, well at least the foreground, looked like Beacon Hill, but as you can see below the hills don't quite line up correctly. The tall peak in the San Rafael Hills is right below Mt. Wilson when in the 1916 photo it's a bit to the right.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...31128520_b.jpg_3150002-Edit.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

More likely is a spot just north of the summit of Mt. Hollywood that has some benches and some young trees(it's now dedicated to a slain LAPD officer). This is the view from about there:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d3563c66_b.jpg_A030063.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

The problem with looking at current maps(like Google) is the topography at the lower elevations has changed. The Roosevelt Golf Course wasn't there then and I'm sure there was some "smoothing" of the landscape.

ORGINALLY POSTED BY MartinTurnbill
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/Zg3jxg.jpg


:previous: Oh my, that is wonderful photograph!

Like you, I have never noticed the amazing light fixture, Martin.

I'll re-check my images of the Ship Cafe, pronto.

Detail of the 1928 map posting by BillInGlendale.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/M87sng.jpg
USG map
Minion Bill, so you're saying the 'Mt. Hollywood Trail', as seen in the 1916 photographs, eventually became Vermont Canyon Road? :shrug:


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/Ilrn7O.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/FKG02i.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...921/zCj2Xc.jpg

.

No, Vista Del Valle.

:previous: Thanks for the clarification, Bill.


I just checked to see if the eBay seller had anymore photograph of the Mt. Hollywood Trail. (they didn't)

...but the seller did have this undated snapshot of the corner of Broadway and Ninth Street.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/yC7hfA.jpg
eBay

This is the first time that I'ne noticed vertical shutters on a highrise building. (in this case, the Majestic Theater building)




DETAIL -even the tiny windows have shutters. (that one window looks like a very skinny door)..or am I seeing things?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/rLEuU4.jpg

The shutters remind me of New Orleans for some reason.



HERE'S THE REVERSE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/YsyhqA.jpg

.

Alhambra High School, Alhambra, CA. Undated photo, but going by the girls' fashions, my guess is early 1950s. I didn't realize that the main building of Alhambra High used to face Main Street.
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...2f&oe=5DC7645E
I Love Alhambra Ca Facebook page

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/Zg3jxg.jpg
Martin, I wasn't able to find any images that show the elusive light fixture....but I got a good look at the new entrance you mentioned.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/q8FnTp.jpg
LAPL 1946

I wonder who made the dubious decision to include the incongruous blue dome on the new entrance?


How do I know the dome is blue?




THIS
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/rhyXcU.jpg
detail of postcard

Martin, you said the light fixture might have been inside the new entrance..but the young lady is obviously standing outside....so I'm not sure what you meant.

.

sopas ej

Thank you for the picture of Alhambra High School. I went there in the '60's, and the building on Main was long gone. I've never seen this picture before, but I wish they would have left the buildings as they were. The whole time I was there there was "portable" buildings that were very ugly!

At one point in time there was another faux-ship on Abbot Kinney Pier.

A battleship!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/fxWMUr.jpg
KCET via LAPL

I would wager a guess that this was during WWI.

It brings to mind the faux-warship that was temporarily in Central Park/Pershing Square, downtown. *looking for Pershing Square Battleship image as we speak*

You're welcome! I drive through Alhambra often, on my way to work in the city of Rosemead from where I live in South Pasadena. It would've been nice to see downtown Alhambra in decades past. Even now, I've seen its evolution from the late 1990s when I moved to South Pas, where I have been living ever since. In fact today, I had dinner at that Indonesian restaurant on Garfield just south of Main. I'm actually a regular there, I probably go there once every other week or so.

A mystery postcard


RPPC / Real Photo PC "Greetings to Mrs. Albertson, 1904 Postmark, Los Angeles California"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/02ptEZ.jpg
ebay (found about a week ago)

I am almost certain the home behind the man is the famous "Bivouac" which was built by General Harrison Grey Otis, the publisher and editor of the Los Angeles Times, in 1898.

Sooo...I'll wager a guess and say the man is General Otis.




REVERSE

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/2XMTpH.jpg
POSTMARK, FEB. 25, 1904





I am hoping someone (minion) will help decipher the writing on the front side of the postcard.


ENLARGED FOR EASIER DECIPHERIN'

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/uyGzXo.jpg

#1 I see that Los Angeles is mentioned.

#2 It appears the greeting is from S_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Springs. (or... they met the person at the springs)

#3I believe a Gen. is mentioned but it isn't Otis. (Helsing?) ^wink*

#4 The name of the sender is at the end of the greeting (as usual)...A Mr. B _ _ _ _ _ _ _

.....I NEED HELP...........HELP...........HELP.

:superwhip........:superwhip

That is indeed "General" Harrison Gray Otis's "Bivouac"...

https://wilshireboulevardhouses.blog...e-see-our.html


but I don't think the fellow pictured on the postcard is fat enough to be him, and he certainly doesn't have enough medals:

https://i.postimg.cc/g0RdNmbs/2401-O...EDALSfixed.jpg

:previous:

Well E.R. here is what I got from this guy's "great" handwriting.


How do you do Miss? Do you know me? I come from Los Angeles Cal to
bring you greetings from me you met at Stafford Springs. A line C/O Gen W...
will find me. Kindly, Mr. B.....


A lot of guessing :shrug:

:previous: Thanks for giving it the good ol' college try, FredH. I appreciate it.


Here's a closer look at the gentleman standing in front of the Bivouva.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/gvCzgD.jpg
DETAIL

I wonder if the newspapers on the ground are his?
.

It wasn't "long gone" - this aerial is from 1960. The building above is in the center.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...lhambraHS1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

It didn't last long into the '60s, however, as the 1964 view at Historic Aerials shows a completely different building on the site. It doesn't seem to change over the years, so it was probably the store seen in early GSV images like this one from 2009.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...lhambraHS2.jpg
GSV

Even the 2012 image shows no sign of the store's demise, but by 2013 they were holding a groundbreaking ceremony for the current mixed-use development (you can see a picture on their Facebook page).

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...lhambraHS3.jpg
GSV

The Alhambra Public Library next door has also become a mixed-use development.

Here is a very unique RPPC (REAL PHOTO POST CARD) advertising a Kewpie-like Flapper Lamp adorned with ostrich feathers.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/4rUjyF.jpg
eBay

...................................A. Corenson,....845 Sunset Blvd.....Los Angeles, Cal.




I couldn't help but notice the plug-in.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/So0LpO.jpg
DETAIL

It looks like it might plug into a car cigarette lighter. Do you think the novelty lamp was intended for an automobile? (I doubt it, myself)
Hmmmm......did cars even have cigarettes lighters in the 1920s?



Sidenote:
It's not all that far-fetched.
Many years ago my great uncle had a fuzzy 'dog' in the rear window of his car. The dog's eyes blinked,
either left and right, to show which way the car was turning. (the eyes might have worked as brake lights as well)




.

Looks to me more like it screws into a light socket.

Yes, some did. But those lighters varied in how they looked and how they worked.

The standard lighter in automobiles that we're all familiar with now (the V-Coil lighter) came later. That design was patented in 1956 by a company called Casco, and became widely adopted by 1960 or so.

Great great grandma at Ship Cafe, Venice California
 

Hey ethereal_reality - that shot with the blue dome is new to me too.

What I meant was that perhaps they kept the circular fixture but that at some point they built the entrance around the front door with the fixture above it.

Perhaps the fixture ended up inside your blue dome...?

It seems there was a period in southern California (or was it all of California?) when traffic light poles were painted yellow. So...

Colorado Boulevard looking east from Los Robles Avenue, Pasadena, circa early to mid-1960s.
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...76&oe=5DCF4495
flickr.com

The traffic lights are attached to the lamp posts, so what they did was paint the lower part yellow. I didn't know they did that. Looks funny to me; kind of tacky.

Here's another example of that on West Main Street in Alhambra, 1956:
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...1a&oe=5DD03B8B
reddit.com TheWayWeWere

Alhambra, 1950s.
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...46&oe=5E11F80B
flickr.com timetravelnow

Thanks for this interesting photo, e_r! I do not remember seeing this structure (does it say "Fresh Fish"?) before. I wonder if
it was built that way originally, or if an existing building was decorated for the Great White Fleet's April 1908 visit to Venice.
I also wonder how long the "USS Venice" was in service.


April 21, 1908, Los Angeles Herald:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pscvnugqjs.jpg

California Digital Newspaper Collection @ UC Riverside


The pier-bound "warship" looks like it was patterned after a typical American pre-Dreadnought battleship of that era, the type
which comprised the Great White Fleet. Compare the mock battleship with this 1908 photo of Missouri, one of the battleships
in the advertisement above.

I attended Alhambra High in the final year that the building stood. I've walked up those steps in the photo many times.

The Alhambra Board of Education finally came to their senses in 1957 and realized that the property that fronted Main St. was worth a fortune. It had no business being a high school and it was sold to Von's Markets, Many old homes south of Main St. were condemned and bought out by the City for land for the new school buildings. Several blocks were demolished.

The big problem in that city are Property Taxes. The elderly citizens screamed for decades and refused to raise property taxes to build the new school. They finally did raise taxes and built a new high school on the cheap. It was nothing fancy and had no pool.

Most people are not aware of this but the City of Alhambra is a designated destination for people from Hong Kong and has been so for decades. I sold my Alhambra home in 1985 to a Chinese family from Hong Kong. They paid for the house with gold bullion.....brought from Asia.

Gold bullion! Were they pirates?... ;)


..................................................................................................Arrrgh!

I had to look up the USS Maine being there in 1908 because i thought it was sunk in Havana Harbor in 1898. Apparently they commissioned another USS Maine in 1899. Remember the Maine, indeed.

Alhambra High School
 

HossC

I'm sorry, Hoss, that I posted inaccurate information. I lived in Alhambra from 1957 and started high school in 1965. I should have said that I didn't remember seeing the building from my time in Alhambra.

My post wasn't intended as a dig at you, I was just surprised at how such an impressive building could be forgotten so quickly (and replaced by a grocery store). Personal memories are always welcome here because they fill in the gaps left by other sources.

Hehe, Hakka pirates? :P



Now, Taiwanese as well as Chinese mainlanders are also moving/have also moved to Alhambra, as well as San Gabriel, Monterey Park, Rosemead... pretty much a good portion of the SGV.

According to my partner, it's becoming more and more common to hear Mandarin spoken with Beijing accents, as well as other mainland Chinese languages, in the SGV.

Main Street looking east from 1st Street, Alhambra, 1905 (I seem to be on an Alhambra kick as of late).
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...cd&oe=5E019A84
USC Archive


A close-up of the image: Is that a surrey with a fringe on top? With wire wheels??
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...2e&oe=5DCFF707
USC Archive

Dutch Rare Ice Cream store at the southwest corner of Main Street and Fremont Avenue in Alhambra, 1928. Notice the street names painted onto the curb, and the banjo-type traffic light.

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...a2&oe=5DCD3320
USC Archive

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...61&oe=5DD0BDC6
USC Archive

Well sopas, you are very correct but you didn't mention that mini Beverly Hills city of San Marino, which is now about 60% Chinese & Asian millionaires.
The wealthy people of Asia and Hong Kong, etc., were warned forty years ago that their days were numbered and they had best get out of Asia ASAP.

https://storage.googleapis.com/hippo...dc490a-800.jpg
Huntington