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pilsenarch Oct 26, 2015 1:30 PM

Lol^

Ch.G, Ch.G Oct 29, 2015 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 7209795)
OMP is absurdly convoluted and graceless. It got a pass 8 years ago because it was tall.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Servo (Post 7210224)
Yeah? Good for you. It's horrible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilsenarch (Post 7210944)
OMP is an arbitrary, decorative, piece of junk...

I feel like if this many opinionated people (myself included) agree on something, then it has to be true.

RESOLVED: OMP is shit.

chris11 Oct 29, 2015 4:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ch.G, Ch.G (Post 7215223)
I feel like if this many opinionated people (myself included) agree on something, then it has to be true.

RESOLVED: OMP is shit.

I think us less opinionated people just don't find it worth keeping this thread off topic with why its not a bad signature tower for the South Loop :)

maru2501 Oct 29, 2015 4:22 PM

it'll get better if its taller proposed neighbors are built.

right now it's like you're starving and driving through alabama and, hey, an olive garden

LouisVanDerWright Oct 29, 2015 6:55 PM

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Originally Posted by maru2501 (Post 7215831)
it'll get better if its taller proposed neighbors are built.

right now it's like you're starving and driving through alabama and, hey, an olive garden

Lol, this.

Tom Servo Nov 2, 2015 6:49 AM

Totally incidental, but my GF was begging me to take her to the new Olive Garden over on Addison. I'd previously been to Olive Garden like 2 or 3 times in my life, the last time being at least 8-10 years ago. Anyway, ate there last week. 100% inedible and gross. I honestly don't understand how places like that stay in business. Sheesh. :yuck:

Steely Dan Nov 6, 2015 3:45 PM

according to bvic's post in the highrise compilation thread, this one is scheduled to head to the plan commission this month.

Busy Bee Nov 6, 2015 6:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo (Post 7219542)
Totally incidental, but my GF was begging me to take her to the new Olive Garden over on Addison. I'd previously been to Olive Garden like 2 or 3 times in my life, the last time being at least 8-10 years ago. Anyway, ate there last week. 100% inedible and gross. I honestly don't understand how places like that stay in business. Sheesh. :yuck:

Don't tell that to Marilyn Hagerty.

ChickeNES Nov 19, 2015 10:03 PM

Approved! Crescent Heights said that they have financing in place and want to put shovels in the ground ASAP.

:notacrook::worship::tup::cheers:

BVictor1 Nov 19, 2015 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChickeNES (Post 7241977)
Approved! Crescent Heights said that they have financing in place and want to put shovels in the ground ASAP.

:notacrook::worship::tup::cheers:

They want to break ground by June or July.

It looks like the height has gone to 810' to the underside of the top floor.

Randomguy34 Nov 19, 2015 10:28 PM

Well don't forget that the building still has a crown (the empty box at it's very top), so that should give it a little more height

go go white sox Nov 19, 2015 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7241997)
They want to break ground by June or July.

It looks like the height has gone to 810' to the underside of the top floor.

Wow great news Chicago on a roll. Now if we can get jahn moving and approved that would be great!

LouisVanDerWright Nov 20, 2015 6:21 PM

Wow, very aggressive schedule on this one, 810' to the bottom of the top floor means total height in the mid 800' range. Should help distract from OMP and it's even more heinous sibling OMPW. Can't wait to see cranes rising around Grant Park again! Sounds like next year is 2005 or 2006.

Steely Dan Nov 20, 2015 9:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 7243029)
810' to the bottom of the top floor means total height in the mid 800' range.

yeah, that's what i'm guessing too. that's why i'm leaving the 862' figure in the title until we get better info on exactly where this on tops out.

"bottom of the top floor" is a weird, and i would argue often useless, figure when talking about building heights. why is it considered important enough to be mentioned in these plan commission meetings?

brian_b Nov 20, 2015 11:59 PM

Is the next step filing for permits, or is there more to be done?

BVictor1 Nov 21, 2015 2:37 AM

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Originally Posted by brian_b (Post 7243385)
Is the next step filing for permits, or is there more to be done?

Zoning approvals and City Council approvals.

Filing for permits and securing financing.

andydie Nov 22, 2015 8:51 AM

great news for chicago:cheers:. i wonder tho were both towers approved and which of the pair will rise first the smaller or the larger of the two?

BVictor1 Nov 22, 2015 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by andydie (Post 7244427)
great news for chicago:cheers:. i wonder tho were both towers approved and which of the pair will rise first the smaller or the larger of the two?

The east (shorter) tower was the one approved and will be constructed first. There's no timeframe for Phase II that I'm aware of.

go go white sox Nov 22, 2015 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7244460)
The east (shorter) tower was the one approved and will be constructed first. There's no timeframe for Phase II that I'm aware of.

Any idea of the height of the second proposed tower?

BVictor1 Nov 22, 2015 4:48 PM

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Originally Posted by go go white sox (Post 7244514)
Any idea of the height of the second proposed tower?

No... Perhaps about 100' taller.

BVictor1 Nov 24, 2015 4:59 PM

Yeah... We're going to have to see some official blueprints as the 810' figure is to the underside of the slab of the most habitable floor. As you can see from the images, there's a bit more structure above 810'. In the 3rd image down, everything above the yellow is in addition to 810'.

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

r18tdi Nov 24, 2015 5:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7246582)
810' figure is to the underside of the slab of the most habitable floor. As you can see from the images, there's a bit more structure above 810'. In the 3rd image down, everything above the yellow is in addition to 810'

If that is indeed the case, we could be looking at a height closer to 885' to the top of the... um... er, "chuppah?"

Steely Dan Nov 24, 2015 5:31 PM

^ yes, i just carefully scaled the image and got an additional 75' above the yellow, for a total of 885'.

BVictor1 Nov 24, 2015 5:42 PM

^The diagrams I posted also show 78 floors.

Randomguy34 Nov 24, 2015 5:52 PM

If it is 885 feet, and it's twin is at least 100 feet taller, then it's twin would be at least 985 feet tall! (Hurray for math!)

BVictor1 Nov 24, 2015 5:55 PM

887' 2"

r18tdi Nov 24, 2015 6:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 7246632)
^ yes, i just carefully scaled the image and got an additional 75' above the yellow, for a total of 885'.

Carefully scaled? Haha I just eyeballed it :haha:
Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7246683)
887' 2"

Boom. :cheers:

Steely Dan Nov 24, 2015 6:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r18tdi (Post 7246777)
Carefully scaled? Haha I just eyeballed it :haha:

your eyeballs are very good. :tup:

but yeah, i scaled up the image in cad to get the grade line and the top of the yellow to be 810', then measured what was left.

bvic, thanks for getting the actual figure and floor count!

Chicago Shawn Nov 28, 2015 5:31 PM

Working name for the project is Grant Park Tower. Also, it was mentioned at plan commission that financing is in place to start early next year. The contractor is McHugh, who is working to provide subcontract jobs to local minority owned firms.

r18tdi Dec 1, 2015 4:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicago Shawn (Post 7251354)
Working name for the project is Grant Park Tower.

They will probably settle on a more pretentious/trendy name.
My money is on "The Grant."

NYC2CHI Dec 1, 2015 5:50 AM

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Originally Posted by r18tdi (Post 7253461)
They will probably settle on a more pretentious/trendy name.
My money is on "The Grant."

Can't be done. That's what Related's building at 1201 S. Prairie has been called since 2013 (the former One Museum Park West). 113 E. Roosevelt will be directly across Indiana from that one.

ardecila Dec 1, 2015 7:37 AM

I want to say how much I love that ground-level rendering... It's like the bad old days of the 70s along LSD, before developers felt they had to slather everything in cornices and finials! Everything is so rectilinear...

r18tdi Dec 1, 2015 8:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NYC2CHI (Post 7253531)
Can't be done. That's what Related's building at 1201 S. Prairie has been called since 2013 (the former One Museum Park West). 113 E. Roosevelt will be directly across Indiana from that one.

Yes of course. Duh. :doh:

rlw777 Dec 1, 2015 8:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicago Shawn (Post 7251354)
Working name for the project is Grant Park Tower. Also, it was mentioned at plan commission that financing is in place to start early next year. The contractor is McHugh, who is working to provide subcontract jobs to local minority owned firms.

I totally missed that this already had financing. That's Huge sounds like this one is a done deal barring another recession.

Chi-Sky21 Dec 1, 2015 9:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 7253602)
I want to say how much I love that ground-level rendering... It's like the bad old days of the 70s along LSD, before developers felt they had to slather everything in cornices and finials! Everything is so rectilinear...

It looks ok while it is just 1 tower, but am I the only person who thinks when both are built, the bases together are going to be (for lack of better wording) overwhelming? It is basicly 1 massive podium.

rlw777 Dec 1, 2015 9:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Sky21 (Post 7254325)
It looks ok while it is just 1 tower, but am I the only person who thinks when both are built, the bases together are going to be (for lack of better wording) overwhelming? It is basicly 1 massive podium.

No worries the second tower will almost certainly be redesigned.

skybuilder Dec 5, 2015 5:59 PM

Wow, sometimes when I look at renders and pre production drawings and then compare them with the finished product, I feel the drawing was misleading. But, with this one I feel the statement it'll make on the outline of the park will be inline with the drawings/rendering. This will be a statement building! Something I show my friends when they visit Chicago. Very excited if this comes to fruition!

Skyguy_7 Dec 30, 2015 4:07 PM

Just thought I'd share some elevations, dated 10/21. Looks like the "crown" is gone and replaced by actual floor space. Height still reads 887'-2"

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5703/...ca661bc0_c.jpg

Steely Dan Dec 30, 2015 4:20 PM

^ good to see the height remained unchanged.

HomrQT Dec 30, 2015 7:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 7283773)
Just thought I'd share some elevations, dated 10/21. Looks like the "crown" is gone and replaced by actual floor space. Height still reads 887'-2"

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5703/...ca661bc0_c.jpg

Was the crown originally meant to be a rooftop deck to anyone's knowledge? If it was simply for decoration I prefer the update with floor space. I didn't like the appearance of the crown much anyway.

skyscraper Dec 30, 2015 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 7283773)
Just thought I'd share some elevations, dated 10/21. Looks like the "crown" is gone and replaced by actual floor space. Height still reads 887'-2"

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5703/...ca661bc0_c.jpg

May I ask where you got this drawing?

ChickeNES Dec 31, 2015 8:57 AM

^Seconded. I'd love to have it as a poster for my apartment.

spyguy Dec 31, 2015 2:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 7283773)
Just thought I'd share some elevations, dated 10/21. Looks like the "crown" is gone and replaced by actual floor space. Height still reads 887'-2"

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5703/...ca661bc0_c.jpg

Thanks for posting the elevations. Sort of reminds me of a flipped Torre Verre:
http://s14.postimg.org/gvqudjkcx/Jea...rre_Verre4.jpg
Source

BVictor1 Dec 31, 2015 2:37 PM

^And only 200' shorter.

sentinel Dec 31, 2015 9:20 PM

Skyguy_7, do you have permission to post these working drawings? Renderings are one thing, but I'm always concerned when I see detailed working drawings posted on here..

Skyguy_7 Jan 1, 2016 12:48 AM

^They're from a public FTP site, used to post bid docs for sub-contractors. So, nothing unethical here. I've also got elevation dwgs for the new spire site proposal. Looks like they're keeping with the 2,000' figure.











Jk. Happy new year, all :cheers:

Domer2019 Jan 1, 2016 8:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 7284960)
^They're from a public FTP site, used to post bid docs for sub-contractors. So, nothing unethical here. I've also got elevation dwgs for the new spire site proposal. Looks like they're keeping with the 2,000' figure.











Jk. Happy new year, all :cheers:


A summary of my reaction:

:burstbubble:

We don't joke about these things ;)

maru2501 Jan 4, 2016 8:09 PM

I got you a pony for Christmas!!!!!!

but it's dead

spyguy Jan 29, 2016 6:00 AM

http://i67.tinypic.com/o511kw.jpg
I also didn't realize the second floor was coworking office space (WeWork).

Kumdogmillionaire Jan 30, 2016 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by spyguy (Post 7317485)
http://i67.tinypic.com/o511kw.jpg
I also didn't realize the second floor was coworking office space (WeWork).


This rendering definitely makes it easier to swallow the ugly pill that was the height reduction on Medium Jahn.

Viñoly really did well on this one


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