Thanks for indulging me, Scott.
I'm going to guess that this expertly drawn scene with added embellishments, was originally based on this vue card photo that you posted. http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v...00013999-1.jpg Los Angeles Public Library Photo Collection http://losangelespast.blogspot.com/2...ker-block.html Quote:
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I was wondering about something the other day, and I figure that Noirish L.A. is probably the best place to ask my question. Does anyone on here know of or have any pictures of any buildings that were cancelled due to the Great Depression? Thanks.
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I just joined this forum to, first, say thank you to the contributors to the Noirish Los Angeles thread. I'm only about 1/6 of the way through (so many pictures, so little time!) and many questions about old "Lost" Angeles have been answered.
This thread even solved a great mystery that I never could figure out -- just exactly why the old Hall of Records was positioned on an odd angle to the rest of the Civic Center (old street alignment -- I never knew!). One of my favorite old LA restaurants is of course Philippe's. I knew the restaurant had moved to it's present location on Ord Street due to the freeway expansion in the 40's/50's. According to Wikipedia, there were a number of locations before the move to Ord: 300 N. Alameda (Philippe's 1908) 156 N. Spring (New Poodle Dog French restaurant 1911) 617 N. Alameda (1913) 246 Aliso St. (1918) 364 Aliso St. (1925) The article also referred to this area as the "Frenchtown Neighborhood", which was razed for City Hall and freeway expansion. Since I've only gone about 1/6 of the way through this thread, did any of you uncover pictures containing the early Philippe's locations and/or Frenchtown? If not, can any pictures be unearthed? I've always wondered about the first Philippe's. TIA. :) |
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Weston Studio, Tropico, ca_ 1920, (In Focus), 140)_ Edward Weston Studio, Brand Blvd. (nw corner w/Los Feliz), Tropico (Glendale), ca. 1920. J. Paul Getty Museum, Collection Center for Creative Photography. Arizona Board of Regents. |
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Here is an excellent photograph of Charlie Chaplin and friends in downtown Los Angeles.
http://imageshack.us/a/img607/1838/a...w6thstreet.jpg found on ebay below: The photographer was located on west 6th Street. http://imageshack.us/a/img831/3581/a...6thstreet1.jpg ebay Can anyone pinpoint the exact location of this photograph? I've googled 'grand hotel' so many times I want to cry. ___ |
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The steep slope evident in that photo (plus the name of the hotel) makes me think that might be Grand north from 5th, but that's purely a guess. -S |
Our town
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Fifty years gone (August 5, 1962), but a legend forever....
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That being said, . . . there was a Hotel/Apartment House located at 416 So. Grand Ave. It was called by various names including the Grand "Ave" Hotel and Grand Hotel. "416" 2nd floor: http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...search_doc=416 Whether it was in existence prior to or around 1920, when the Tramp was parading the pavement, is unclear. Per the photo notes, it was demolished in 1960. http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...E98A36AB0?v=hrhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1344148120070 |
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Bullocks Wilshire has been portrayed many times in this thread. These two undated photos with their over-exposed and expansive horizon are standouts.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059208.jpg http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059204.jpgLAPL _______________________ The grand auto portal, 1937. http://jpg1.lapl.org/00097/00097396.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098642.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098641.jpglapl |
It seems like yesterday.
I've gotten so old that things like this surprise me with how many years have passed and how clearly I remember them.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7136/7...eb769a14_o.jpg norma jean doherty, ca, 1947 julienslive.com There was a time when she was just another pretty girl, prettier perhaps than most but still with little to signal what was to come. |
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http://www2.palomar.edu/users/scrout...Hotel22x28.jpg palomar.edu You'd do better to look for a street with a movie theater around the year 1932, when Grand Hotel came out and a year after City Lights, one of the Little Tramps most famous films premiered. |
:previous: Whoa, I believe you may have solved the mystery for us KevinW.
But now I am wondering about the brick street...which I hadn't noticed before. I am also curious about the bar that appears to be an open-air venue (open to the street). This makes me think of Long Beach...or perhaps Venice. __ |
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With respect to whether the signage is actually an ad for MGM's Grand Hotel, that was my first thought too, but after squinting a while, I did not see it as a movie ad, which is not to say I am correct. Second, I am no expert, but the crowd's costumes look somewhat older, say from the Twenties or earlier. Third, if this was 1932 - or even 1933, it is doubtful that a Bar would be operating as such when Prohibition was still in effect. Doubtful - but not impossible. Fourth, elsewhere it was posited that the image "appears to be a candid photo of Charlie Chaplin shooting a deleted sequence for his film 'SHOULDER ARMS' - showing Charlie as a family man." I have absolutely no idea if this is accurate, but to the extent that it may be, "Shoulder Arms" was photographed in 1918. Again, I have no idea if this is accurate, but the supposition seems to fall in line with the earlier date. Frankly, if you look at my original response, I even wondered if it weren't possible for the photo to have been taken at "another locale" - that was not in Los Angeles or anywhere close to Grand Avenue or "Korin - Kodak" on 6th Street. "The Korin" and a Los Angeles address certainly suggests a Los Angeles location, but it is no guarantee. While I do think the location was in Los Angeles, there are many other locations with Grand Hotels, and plenty of onlookers. LosAngeles Past saw the sidewalk as being on a grade and possibly on North Grand. Maybe worth exploring further? :shrug: Good sport though. I look forward to someone solving the mystery. ;);) ________________________ From the 1918 Movie "Shoulder Arms." Same three youngsters as found in the other photo? Does the marble fascia look familiar? http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls...y8to2_1280.jpg http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls...dy8to1_500.jpghttp://www.tumblr.com/tagged/shoulde...ore=1317540047 _________________________ http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4CtfhPHreJ...400/joanie.jpggoogle Astor Theater (New York)http://twentyfourframes.files.wordpr...rand-hotel.jpghttp://twentyfourframes.files.wordpr...rand-hotel.jpg |
:previous: hmm..I didn't think of prohibition. Good point BifRayRock.
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"The interior of an all-male saloon in Los Angeles with a latrine." ( pan right----> ) The lighting fixtures are amazing!
http://imageshack.us/a/img826/7240/s...ineinfloor.jpg found on ebay below: Detail of the 'latrine'. http://imageshack.us/a/img827/1638/s...inecloseup.jpg ebay For the life of me, I have never heard of a saloon where you could whip it out and take a p*ss whilst standing at the bar. Is this really a latrine or did the seller mislabel the photograph? __ |
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