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Mstimc Jul 15, 2013 4:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Moxie (Post 6197747)
Absolutely! Citing sources is the good and correct thing to do. When I've come across something here, or someone's helped me specifically with it, I not only credit the thread but the person making the post as well. It's a shame when people "share" (i.e., steal) things and think that just because it's online acknowledgement is no longer necessary.
You guys may be on to something--I posted this back in June:

"I think there's a norish fan on the staff of the L.A. Times. Yesterday, there was a great piece on the Spring St. arcade, and today one on the site of the old Statler/Hiltion/Wilshire Grand!":rolleyes:

Flyingwedge Jul 15, 2013 6:07 AM
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Originally Posted by so-cal-bear (Post 6198006)
Wow there ER, you sure sound so disgusted and indignant over those very dirty words, Teatro Mexico there. Cities are almost living things, they change over time whether people like it or not. That's the nature. And those damned Mexicans were here before California was part of the U.S. ;)

You *may* not have meant the comment to come out like this, but it sure sounded like it the way it was presented.
Why? Because he wrote TEATRO MEXICO in capital letters . . . like it is on the side of the building in the photo?

GaylordWilshire Jul 15, 2013 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by so-cal-bear (Post 6198006)
Wow there ER, you sure sound so disgusted and indignant over those very dirty words, Teatro Mexico there. Cities are almost living things, they change over time whether people like it or not. That's the nature. And those damned Mexicans were here before California was part of the U.S. ;)

You *may* not have meant the comment to come out like this, but it sure sounded like it the way it was presented.

Here's an appropriate headline...MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING AT TEATRO MEXICO"--from the Times of March 9, 1928. I've read elsewhere that this incarnation of the old opera house lasted from 1927 to 1934.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAT

ethereal_reality Jul 15, 2013 2:40 PM
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Originally Posted by so-cal-bear (Post 6198006)
Wow there ER, you sure sound so disgusted and indignant over those very dirty words, Teatro Mexico there. Cities are almost living things, they change over time whether people like it or not. That's the nature. And those damned Mexicans were here before California was part of the U.S. ;)

You *may* not have meant the comment to come out like this, but it sure sounded like it the way it was presented.
It was a simple question. I typed it like it was painted on the building. If you knew me in person you would realize how off base you are.
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ethereal_reality Jul 15, 2013 2:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6198229)
Here's an appropriate headline...MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING AT TEATRO MEXICO"--from the Times of March 9, 1928.
I've read elsewhere that this incarnation of the old opera house lasted from 1927 to 1934.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAT
Thanks for the information GW. That answers my question perfectly.
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Oviatt Building Fan Jul 15, 2013 2:47 PM
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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6198229)

Very interesting article. I didn't know that the term "The Race" ("La Raza") was known to the Los Angeles Times as early as 1928.

Oviatt Building Fan Jul 15, 2013 2:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6197544)

Jax was evidently a Beverly Hills boutique. In '60, after Rudi had apparently moved on, there was a "Jax Sportswear" - 9667 Wilshire Blvd. Crestview 5-5735, but unclear that it was the same Jax mentioned above. The building at that location evidences the age of moderne. (Curious whether G.R. Designs, Inc. was located in Los Angeles or NY.)

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...LyllcgNK2_PVRshttps://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...LyllcgNK2_PVRs
http://c0056906.cdn2.cloudfiles.rack...com/105638.jpghttp://c0056906.cdn2.cloudfiles.rack...com/105638.jpg http://www.loopnet.com/Attachments/6...604E907909.JPGhttp://www.loopnet.com/Attachments/6...604E907909.JPG


That later 1930s building above was designed by Norstrom & Anderson, the same architectural duo who created the Sunset/Crescent Heights building in 1931:


http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6131e6ce.jpg
Huntington Library Archive / Bruce Torrence Hollywood Photo Collection

Earl Boebert Jul 15, 2013 3:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mstimc (Post 6198063)
You guys may be on to something--I posted this back in June:

"I think there's a norish fan on the staff of the L.A. Times. Yesterday, there was a great piece on the Spring St. arcade, and today one on the site of the old Statler/Hiltion/Wilshire Grand!":rolleyes:
Probably Larry Harnisch, Times resident historian who is also an expert on the Black Dahlia case. His personal blog is at http://ladailymirror.com I doubt the newspaper policy allows crediting outside sites like this, which is a pity.

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Jul 15, 2013 3:45 PM
Downtown newspaper stand, Los Angeles circa 1966
http://imageshack.us/a/img856/1696/w0hs.jpg
ebay



details: a kiosk on wheels.....noirish florescent lighting....basically very cool. :)
http://imageshack.us/a/img196/8510/glre.jpg

-not sure of the exact address.

BifRayRock Jul 15, 2013 7:00 PM


If your Shag causes too much static, try the High-Low Plush! :fruit:




9563 W Pico Blvd, S & J Biren Carpets


Mid '50s
http://www.sjbiren.com/usercontent/S...-mid-1950s.jpghttp://www.sjbiren.com/usercontent/S...-mid-1950s.jpg

'60s
http://www.sjbiren.com/usercontent/S...-1960s-(2).jpghttp://www.sjbiren.com/usercontent/S...-1960s-(2).jpg

Contemporary
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8340/8...38408db1_o.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8340/8...38408db1_o.jpg

belmont bob Jul 15, 2013 7:43 PM
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:tup: good edit e.r.

ethereal_reality Jul 15, 2013 8:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6198693)
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/3295/kw6m.jpg

This is such a fun find BRR. An untouched mid-century facade still in place after 60 years.
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GaylordWilshire Jul 15, 2013 9:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6197544)
A Stretch. Can Mod be Noir?

Jax was evidently a Beverly Hills boutique. In '60, after Rudi had apparently moved on, there was a "Jax Sportswear" - 9667 Wilshire Blvd. Crestview 5-5735, but unclear that it was the same Jax mentioned above. The building at that location evidences the age of moderne. (Curious whether G.R. Designs, Inc. was located in Los Angeles or NY.)

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...LyllcgNK2_PVRshttps://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...LyllcgNK2_PVRs

Joan Didion mentions Jax in her writing. I've read elsewhere that it specialized in very tight pedal pushers that zipped up the back. Sounds so comfortable. Anyway, here are a few items...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...jaxtripych.jpg

A matchbook and Joan Collins and Audrey Hepburn shopping at Jax (Audrey with her pet deer--oh, those publicists). Also came across this article from the Times from 1967:


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z...ctorycompl.jpgLAT

A real period piece... who would have ever thought Buddy Hackett would be considered a draw for a groovy nightclub? Peter Lawford, past his prime, in his sideburns, chest hair and gold medallion phase? Paul Newman and his food, maybe.

ethereal_reality Jul 15, 2013 10:02 PM
One of the more obscure restaurants on La Cienega's restaurant row was Cave des Roys, 8054 Beverly Place.

http://imageshack.us/a/img823/3061/3geq.jpg
http://life.time.com/

This private club (you needed a gold key to enter) opened in 1959.
Among the founders were Conrad Hilton, Paul Newman, Desi Arnaz, Danny Thomas, Anthony Quinn and Tony Curtis.




ashtray
http://imageshack.us/a/img96/2571/wp6z.jpg
http://www.etsy.com/listing/63672660...s-private-club
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/1526/escw.jpg
http://www.etsy.com/listing/63672660...s-private-club



menu
http://imageshack.us/a/img163/6363/0wjq.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img855/1046/q6jq.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img833/9335/lc74.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cave-des-Roy...-/190861312615




Today, Cave des Roys is hidden behind the Sofitel Hotel, and in the shadow of the Beverly Center.
http://imageshack.us/a/img706/7007/fwi2.jpg
google aerial






-looking east on Beverly Place toward La Cienega.
http://imageshack.us/a/img703/1869/0f2c.jpg
gsv





Cave des Roys survives as the Maimonides Academy Library
http://imageshack.us/a/img4/7238/y0zd.jpg
Alison Martino at http://www.flickr.com/photos/6845356...n/photostream/

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Chuckaluck Jul 15, 2013 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6198889)
Joan Didion mentions Jax in her writing. I've read elsewhere that it specialized in very tight peddle pushers that zipped up the back. Sounds so comfortable. Anyway, here are a few items...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...jaxtripych.jpg

A matchbook and Joan Collins and Audrey Hepburn shopping at Jax (Audrey with her pet deer--oh, those publicists). Also came across this article from the Times from 1967:


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z...ctorycompl.jpgLAT

A real period piece... who would have ever thought Buddy Hackett would be considered a draw for a groovy nightclub? Peter Lawford, past his prime, in his sideburns, chest hair and gold medallion phase? Paul Newman and his food, maybe.

But did Ann Margrock née Margaret shop there?

Nice followup. Article references department store scion, Jerry Ohrbach. There was an actor . . . with a similar sounding name, but different spelling. Never heard "Lennie" called a scion. Promises, Promises . . . ;)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7409/9...7008c342_b.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7409/9...7008c342_b.jpg

Chuckaluck Jul 15, 2013 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6198936)
One of the more obscure restaurants on La Cienega's restaurant row was Cave des Roys, 8054 Beverly Place.

http://imageshack.us/a/img823/3061/3geq.jpg
http://life.time.com/

This private club (you needed a gold key to enter) opened in 1959.
Among the founders were Conrad Hilton, Paul Newman, Desi Arnaz, Danny Thomas, Anthony Quinn and Tony Curtis.

Today, Cave des Roys is hidden behind the Sofitel Hotel, and in the shadow of the Beverly Center.
http://imageshack.us/a/img706/7007/fwi2.jpg
google aerial


-looking east on Beverly Place toward La Cienega.
http://imageshack.us/a/img703/1869/0f2c.jpg
gsv


Cave des Roys survives as the Maimonides Academy Library
http://imageshack.us/a/img4/7238/y0zd.jpg
Alison Martino at http://www.flickr.com/photos/6845356...n/photostream/

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Guessing the the Cave post dated Smokey Joe's. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7496 and http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7515

Beverly and LaCienega March '50 (from the Rexall Drug Parking Lot looking NW? Before Cedars and the Beverly Center)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067276.jpg
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067276.jpg


From same Rexall parking lot ca.'50?
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067278.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/P...seID=968&index


http://dkse.net/david/Bev_LaCien.SmokeyJoes.snip.jpghttp://dkse.net/david/Bev_LaCien.SmokeyJoes.snip.jpg


This area evokes many parts of this thread. The Coronet Theater (first Troubador) and the middle-of-the-road Oil Derrick. But who can forget . . .

http://imageshack.us/a/img138/397/aa...everlypark.jpg

ethereal_reality Jul 15, 2013 11:25 PM
Chuckaluck asked, Can Mod be Noir?

I don't have the answer to that, but I know a fashion crime when I see it.

http://imageshack.us/a/img834/7760/0kq4.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img96/7361/pgfs.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img18/7916/tuix.jpg
press release/ebay



reverse
http://imageshack.us/a/img541/4072/4egp.jpg

-'bee hive' hat, circa 1962.
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ethereal_reality Jul 15, 2013 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6199035)
This area evokes many parts of this thread. The Coronet Theater (first Troubador) and the middle-of-the-road Oil Derrick
And the Encore cocktail lounge and supper club on the corner of La Cienega and Waring Ave., circa 1953
http://imageshack.us/a/img690/1996/79ur.jpg
George Mann photo via https://www.facebook.com/VintageLosAngeles
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Chuckaluck Jul 16, 2013 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by kznyc2k (Post 5923149)
Sunset and Vine during the Tom Breneman era:

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/1845/l...0shollyvin.jpg

Wider view of the intersection. Interesting situation with the traffic light AND the stop sign - suggesting that the light was inoperative at certain times? Stopping at the "Green" has been discussed before on this thread. Notice the cross traffic waiting for pedestrians (probably the scary guy as a child). Wallach's is advertising Television. Pre-tuned to KNBH?

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6137/6...c031b83b_o.jpghttp://farm7.staticflickr.com/6137/6...c031b83b_o.jpg

Krell58 Jul 16, 2013 1:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6197794)
No, this isn't a Iowa Picnic.
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/3525/osy4.jpg
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/1959/

Sept. 16, 1959: Groundbreaking for Dodger Stadium.
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Getting on 2nd base was hard, but it was all downhill from there.;)

On L.A. Noire, this hill has an old farm house on it.

Eric


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