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Kumdogmillionaire Jan 8, 2019 12:00 AM

Don't post very often these days, but noticed the tower popped up in the back, so the final push to the top is underway now.

https://i.imgur.com/eDzL4YZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/L9WSpu1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qN8mAhI.jpg

colemonkee Jan 8, 2019 4:19 PM

Great shots, Kumdogmillionaire. I never realized until that angle how well Essex and NEMA play together. The vertical lines feel almost evenly spaced.

PittsburghPA Jan 8, 2019 10:29 PM

1/8/19

https://i.imgur.com/0iwqIZe.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/UXr7SX9.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/uYtlSpj.jpg?1

melanus Jan 9, 2019 12:22 AM

More interior renderings thank to Curbed
https://chicago.curbed.com/2019/1/8/...ents-amenities

BVictor1 Jan 9, 2019 7:41 AM

01/04/19

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...018544/enhance

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...018570/enhance

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...018983/enhance

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...018441/enhance

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...018943/enhance

intrepidDesign Jan 9, 2019 4:53 PM

What an absolutely gorgeous building. I'm probably in the minority here, but I hope the western parcel doesn't end up being just a larger version of this. This building is so nice, I'd like to see it just stand on it's own and a different, equally good design is chosen for the next one.

Steely Dan Jan 9, 2019 7:38 PM

* moderator note *


i moved the general south loop skyline talk to the general chicago discussions thread as it was veering a bit too far off-topic.

link: https://forum.skyscraperpage.com/sho...d.php?t=208431

RedCorsair87 Jan 9, 2019 9:10 PM

I like the building and the height, but I'm annoyed by the uneven setbacks and how the top setbacks don't continue climbing in a spiral fashion. Reminds me a little of OBP in how arbitrary some of the design seems. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

cozy Jan 10, 2019 1:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melanus (Post 8430230)
More interior renderings thank to Curbed
https://chicago.curbed.com/2019/1/8/...ents-amenities

they put in the effort of editing out the vista crane lol, wish they would have just edited in the finished vista :D

kolchak Jan 12, 2019 3:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedCorsair87 (Post 8431197)
I like the building and the height, but I'm annoyed by the uneven setbacks and how the top setbacks don't continue climbing in a spiral fashion.

But they do.

RedCorsair87 Jan 12, 2019 7:41 PM

It looks like the southwestern most setback is finished, but it drops down several floors instead of jumping up like it should if it was a true spiral. That is one of the things that throws me off.

BVictor1 Jan 13, 2019 10:35 AM

01/04/19

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...286242/enhance

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...375575/enhance

Rooster slayer Jan 13, 2019 6:29 PM

Fantastic shots Bvic. That pool bump out doesn't bother me as much now that the dark screening is in higher up. It seems to balance it out.

SIGSEGV Jan 14, 2019 12:28 AM

From Northerly Island today:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xH...=w1019-h764-no

And another one later on from the 11th Street Bridge:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IO...c=w717-h955-no

Steely Dan Jan 14, 2019 12:58 AM

^ That first shot from northerly..... magnificent!

BonoboZill4 Jan 14, 2019 2:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooster slayer (Post 8435024)
Fantastic shots Bvic. That pool bump out doesn't bother me as much now that the dark screening is in higher up. It seems to balance it out.

I actually like the dark screening as well

harryc Jan 14, 2019 2:16 AM

Jan 11









Jan 13

From Oak Park - District House

SIGSEGV Jan 14, 2019 2:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 8435324)
^ That first shot from northerly..... magnificent!

Northerly Island has amazing prairie + skyscraper views. Only saw 4 other people there today though... (maybe has something to do with it being cold and the path covered in snow).

BuildThemTaller Jan 14, 2019 2:17 PM

A few years ago, I was walking around the Museum Campus and a tourist stopped me. He asked if One Museum Park was Sears Tower. I said, "No, it's that one over there, with the two antennae." I imagine some tourist is going to ask a local if NEMA Chicago is Sears Tower this summer.

gebs Jan 14, 2019 3:21 PM

Given what we're seeing in construction, does that mean this image is either obsolete or incorrect?

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/65VJ...ant_Park_2.jpg

SteelMonkey Jan 14, 2019 5:38 PM

Obsolete? Doesn't appear much has changed.

maru2501 Jan 14, 2019 6:35 PM

I think the question is whether the white box frame top thing is still going up there or not

Fvn Jan 14, 2019 6:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maru2501 (Post 8435986)
I think the question is whether the white box frame top thing is still going up there or not

I think its safe to say that it doesn't look like it will. The picture on the front page of the renting website doesn't have the box either.

BonoboZill4 Jan 15, 2019 4:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fvn (Post 8436008)
I think its safe to say that it doesn't look like it will. The picture on the front page of the renting website doesn't have the box either.

No box, but it definitely has a final vertical element in the back, which I think is what was being hinted at what was missing in that one rendering where that final thrust to the sky is absent from view. Just what I'm thinking they are getting at

Fvn Jan 15, 2019 5:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonoboZill4 (Post 8436657)
No box, but it definitely has a final vertical element in the back, which I think is what was being hinted at what was missing in that one rendering where that final thrust to the sky is absent from view. Just what I'm thinking they are getting at

I don't think the current top could be described as a 'white box frame top' :P Also yeah that new rendering shown does make it seem like its gonna not have that element but I also do think it will. That rendering may give the impression because of it being so close to the building and not high up?

BVictor1 Jan 15, 2019 5:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonoboZill4 (Post 8436657)
No box, but it definitely has a final vertical element in the back, which I think is what was being hinted at what was missing in that one rendering where that final thrust to the sky is absent from view. Just what I'm thinking they are getting at

And I'm pretty sure that back vertical element is the damper/tank. I think we still have another 50'-60' to go...

gebs Jan 15, 2019 4:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonoboZill4 (Post 8436657)
No box, but it definitely has a final vertical element in the back, which I think is what was being hinted at what was missing in that one rendering where that final thrust to the sky is absent from view. Just what I'm thinking they are getting at

This was exactly what I was referring to. The image doesn't seem to include that final vertical thrust, making the top appear far more squat than every other rendering we've seen to date.

The Lurker Jan 15, 2019 8:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gebs (Post 8437181)
This was exactly what I was referring to. The image doesn't seem to include that final vertical thrust, making the top appear far more squat than every other rendering we've seen to date.

Can you post a link to the picture or page you are referring to? I can't find a rendering anywhere that doesn't include a final tier on the back rank. I would think there is a reason the crane is clearing the top of the core by a hundred feet.

Fvn Jan 15, 2019 8:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lurker (Post 8437575)
Can you post a link to the picture or page you are referring to? I can't find a rendering anywhere that doesn't include a final tier on the back rank. I would think there is a reason the crane is clearing the top if the core by a hundred feet.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/65VJ...ant_Park_2.jpg

But I think its just the angle that makes it seem that way

The Lurker Jan 15, 2019 8:50 PM

I honestly have never seen that rendering. It may be the angle but it does seem like something is missing. I can see the cause for concern now but again I doubt they installed 4 extra sections of crane as a novelty

Zerton Jan 15, 2019 9:22 PM

I don't like that exposed core section. Is that just going to be painted white?

AMWChicago Jan 15, 2019 9:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerton (Post 8437662)
I don't like that exposed core section. Is that just going to be painted white?

Couldn't they just put a fake façade on it and design it the same way as the rest of the building?

gebs Jan 15, 2019 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMWChicago (Post 8437689)
Couldn't they just put a fake façade on it and design it the same way as the rest of the building?

That was my guess, though I wouldn't be surprised if there were some code or structural issues that could limit that. But I'm neither a structural engineer nor a building code specialist, so who knows ...

Zerton Jan 15, 2019 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gebs (Post 8437754)
That was my guess, though I wouldn't be surprised if there were some code or structural issues that could limit that. But I'm neither a structural engineer nor a building code specialist, so who knows ...

There aren't any codes or structural/fire issues that I can think of if it is designed properly (I'm an architect).
It's typical to cover expanses like that in a "dummy facade", be it metal panel, glass to match, etc. Although given the facade treatment of the rest of the building it looks like they are just going to paint it white and leave it exposed.

SteelMonkey Jan 15, 2019 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maru2501 (Post 8435986)
I think the question is whether the white box frame top thing is still going up there or not

I have only seen the white box crown in the initial renderings. If you look at the model Vinoly had and presented (pages 1-3 on this topic) and also at the updated photos in Crescent Heights Portfolio it does not show the white box "crown". The above photo looks the same albeit the angle may make the highest vertical column seem more squat


https://www.crescentheights.com/portfolio/nema-chicago

SteelMonkey Jan 15, 2019 11:04 PM

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lakeshoredrive Jan 15, 2019 11:40 PM

Thinking about renting an apartment... the rent is reasonable for a one bedroom apt. There’s one that actually comes with a den. The downside is that the highest floor that it’s available in is the eighth floor. There’s a cheaper one bedroom apartment that would have a living room/kitchen view of grant park from the 43rd floor, but the bedroom doesn’t not have windows.

Fvn Jan 16, 2019 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerton (Post 8437766)
There aren't any codes or structural/fire issues that I can think of if it is designed properly (I'm an architect).
It's typical to cover expanses like that in a "dummy facade", be it metal panel, glass to match, etc. Although given the facade treatment of the rest of the building it looks like they are just going to paint it white and leave it exposed.

I mean look at Vista, part of its facade is over the sheer walls and it looks like the rest of the windows

rgarri4 Jan 16, 2019 1:15 AM

It's the angle that's making the top look squat.

PittsburghPA Jan 16, 2019 1:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakeshoredrive (Post 8437898)
Thinking about renting an apartment... the rent is reasonable for a one bedroom apt. There’s one that actually comes with a den. The downside is that the highest floor that it’s available in is the eighth floor. There’s a cheaper one bedroom apartment that would have a living room/kitchen view of grant park from the 43rd floor, but the bedroom doesn’t not have windows.

Lakeshoredrive do you have any problem in sharing what the rates are?

Also my motto when choosing apartments is the bedroom is purely for function and little of my time is ever spent there other than sleep. It's all about 43rd floor with view of Grant Park, just my preference. Also which direction did it face? I'd think any view on the North or East side (assuming you can't see GP from West or South) would be pretty epic.

Best of luck on the apartment hunt!

BonoboZill4 Jan 16, 2019 1:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgarri4 (Post 8438026)
It's the angle that's making the top look squat.

That's definitely what it is. If you look closely you can tell that middle tallest portion on the view from below has different glazing than the rest of the tower, which is only like that on the tallest and skinniest portion in the aerial rendering. :tup:

BVictor1 Jan 16, 2019 9:21 AM

Final vertical thrust...

01/15/19

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...630273/enhance

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...630246/enhance

detroitmetro101 Jan 16, 2019 11:06 AM

so i am pretty sure others have noted the homage to the sears/willis tower by this building.

Skyguy_7 Jan 16, 2019 12:59 PM

^ Actually, it's a Sears tower copy-cat and should be demolished immediately. (Check back a couple pages) :haha:

Zerton Jan 16, 2019 4:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelMonkey (Post 8437837)
I have only seen the white box crown in the initial renderings. If you look at the model Vinoly had and presented (pages 1-3 on this topic) and also at the updated photos in Crescent Heights Portfolio it does not show the white box "crown". The above photo looks the same albeit the angle may make the highest vertical column seem more squat


https://www.crescentheights.com/portfolio/nema-chicago

Aside from the crown, in this rendering the exposed core part has a dummy/fake glass facade covering. I hope they still do that. :fingerscrossed:

ithakas Jan 16, 2019 4:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerton (Post 8438587)
Aside from the crown, in this rendering the exposed core part has a dummy/fake glass facade covering. I hope they still do that. :fingerscrossed:

Yeah, the exposed core at the top has had me a bit nervous about what's developed into an otherwise excellent tower. Hopefully they do cover it as depicted in the renderings.

BonoboZill4 Jan 17, 2019 2:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithakas (Post 8438653)
Yeah, the exposed core at the top has had me a bit nervous about what's developed into an otherwise excellent tower. Hopefully they do cover it as depicted in the renderings.

I'm hardly concerned. All of Vista's concrete will be covered up, so I'd imagine the same here

Bombardier Jan 17, 2019 3:44 AM

wt

PittsburghPA Jan 17, 2019 3:48 AM

Yes! I love the cube. Very unique design aspect.

SIGSEGV Jan 17, 2019 4:24 AM

I wonder where 800 units ranks in terms of apartment buildings in Chicago. I know Presidential Towers has over 2000 units, but that's split over 4 towers...


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