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rivernorthlurker Feb 22, 2021 3:45 PM

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Originally Posted by left of center (Post 9195009)
I think the proportions are off, they appear short and stubby. For such a prominent site, Magellan probably could have done better. Lets hope Site I dazzles us and draws the eye away from these ;)

Yeah agree the forms are pretty banal - but I think the copper is :cheers:. These are 40-50 floor condo buildings and I think think they are batting over .300 for that genre.

rivernorthlurker Feb 22, 2021 3:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker (Post 9197573)
Yeah agree the forms are pretty banal - but I think the copper is :cheers:. These are 40-50 floor condo buildings and I think think they are batting over .300 for that genre.

The awkward form is pretty similar to 465 N Park actually, which I weirdly sort of like.

chicubs111 Feb 22, 2021 4:10 PM

Yes...both these are not very graceful by any means in there dimensions. The bigger building might be the shortest looking 550ft building I have seen. The glass might be there saving grace though because at least they strayed away from the repetitive variations of blue.

Toasty Joe Feb 22, 2021 4:37 PM

they both could use one more setback culminating in some sort of crown, but that still might not solve how squat these look.

chicubs111 Feb 22, 2021 9:39 PM

I mean i don't know about background towers... the smaller one yes but the larger one is straight on center unobstructed views of the lake and nothing will be in front of it so its kind of a hard tower to fade in the background...If this building could of been a little more interesting in design and had some height closer to 700ft range would of done a world of difference.

left of center Feb 23, 2021 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker (Post 9197578)
The awkward form is pretty similar to 465 N Park actually, which I weirdly sort of like.

Yes they totally remind me of 465 N Park! That tower has the exact same problem... if they were all maybe 100 ft taller it would be such a dramatic improvement.

That said, if I had to say something nice about these towers, I do like the glass. Nice to see something that isn't a plain sky blue. The contrasting gold/brown glass gives them an interesting 80's vibe, in a good way.

Toasty Joe Mar 9, 2021 4:26 AM

https://twitter.com/BuildingChi/stat...88251483545603

chris08876 Mar 11, 2021 1:00 AM

Shame it isn't taller OR more importantly, doesn't have a higher unit count. I suppose it adds a bit of symmetry to the area (from this angle) but IMO, seems a little blunted by the surroundings. You also have that sore thumb tower sticking out on the left.

Like some said in the past, nothing but a filler. Which is a shame when you consider the location, ya know? I mean prime waterfront (lake) views, and they squander it with underwhelming towers.



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Zapatan Mar 11, 2021 1:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 9214368)
Shame it isn't taller OR more importantly, doesn't have a higher unit count. I suppose it adds a bit of symmetry to the area (from this angle) but IMO, seems a little blunted by the surroundings. You also have that sore thumb tower sticking out on the left.

Like some said in the past, nothing but a filler. Which is a shame when you consider the location, ya know? I mean prime waterfront (lake) views, and they squander it with underwhelming towers.

This is a whole complex including Parcel I. If that gets built it'll be the signature tower.

I guess there could've been several very tall buildings in such a prime location though, like Hudson Yards.

donnie Mar 11, 2021 1:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Zapatan (Post 9214393)
This is a whole complex including Parcel I. If that gets built it'll be the signature tower.

I guess there could've been several very tall buildings in such a prime location though, like Hudson Yards.

Hudson Yards was a remarkable idea that turned out very unremarkable results!:tup:

Zapatan Mar 11, 2021 2:24 AM

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Originally Posted by donnie (Post 9214409)
Hudson Yards was a remarkable idea that turned out very unremarkable results!:tup:

To be fair it's not done yet.

Toasty Joe Mar 21, 2021 2:39 PM

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Source

jc5680 Apr 4, 2021 2:30 PM


harryc Apr 18, 2021 2:57 PM

April 15

Spider Crane - the beginning of the transformers age.
Chicago | Cirrus and Cascade by Harry Carmichael, on Flickr

One man and a wheelbarrow - 21st century version


actually quite an active site

the urban politician Apr 19, 2021 1:43 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/1tCPtfxG/D185-F...-FBAF61395.jpg

Love how it fills in this angle

colemonkee Apr 19, 2021 6:05 PM

^ Was there ever anything planned to go in to that corner at the street level, like townhomes? Or is that just open space against the concrete wall?

Zapatan Apr 19, 2021 6:17 PM

Anyone think it's weird that the taller tower is the one adjacent to the water? You'd think the smaller one would be to not be totally blocked view-wise.

Turned out great otherwise.

ardecila Apr 19, 2021 6:28 PM

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Originally Posted by colemonkee (Post 9253823)
^ Was there ever anything planned to go in to that corner at the street level, like townhomes? Or is that just open space against the concrete wall?

There is a vague plan to put a public school there, but CPS needs to pay for it.

In the meantime Magellan recruited GEMS to open a private school in the neighborhood, but this does not absolve them of the requirement for a public school as well.

the urban politician Apr 19, 2021 7:52 PM

^ I sort of wonder if, eventually, some very expensive townhomes will get built there

ardecila Apr 19, 2021 10:19 PM

My guess is Magellan will complete the last phases of LSE (Sites I and O) and will donate the parcel to CPS so they can close out their obligations.

CPS will continue to be broke and will not want to spend the limited funds they do have on building a new school for rich highrise-dwelling kids, so they will eventually sell it back to a developer and net a handsome profit. Eventually, townhomes but with several extra steps.

If Rahm was still mayor he would probably find funds to build that school out of some TIF pot somewhere. Lightfoot doesn't really seem interested in building much of anything in terms of public works or infrastructure, and she doesn't connect the dots of "building a new school" with "attracting and retaining middle-income families downtown".

r18tdi Apr 19, 2021 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 9253849)
In the meantime Magellan recruited GEMS to open a private school in the neighborhood, but this does not absolve them of the requirement for a public school as well.

What's going on with GEMS II. Still stalled?

Tom In Chicago Apr 20, 2021 3:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ardecila (Post 9253849)
There is a vague plan to put a public school there, but CPS needs to pay for it.

I'm not aware of any plans/rumors that the public school was supposed to go into that unused corner where the Cirrus sales center resides between the Shoreham and Lancaster buildings, but rather the only place I've ever seen it was as a placeholder in the north/east corner of the park itself. . .

. . .

harryc Apr 21, 2021 12:16 AM

Choke much ? this should be amusing after the fireworks.





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BuildThemTaller Apr 21, 2021 1:09 PM

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jc5680 May 1, 2021 2:11 PM


left of center May 1, 2021 7:21 PM

Short, stubby generic filler. At least we get another 500 footer out of this I suppose.

Great shot jc!

chicubs111 May 1, 2021 7:33 PM

Chicago has a knack at making certain 500ft plus buldings look short and stubby... just like lakepoint tower is shortest looking 70 story building you will see

LouisVanDerWright May 2, 2021 5:34 AM

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Originally Posted by chicubs111 (Post 9266866)
Chicago has a knack at making certain 500ft plus buldings look short and stubby... just like lakepoint tower is shortest looking 70 story building you will see

That's because it's literally the shortest 70 floor building on earth. Chicago actually holds the record for shortest X floor building in several size ranges.

left of center May 2, 2021 5:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 9267194)
That's because it's literally the shortest 70 floor building on earth. Chicago actually holds the record for shortest X floor building in several size ranges.

Really? That's hilariously unfortunate. I wish the opposite were true :haha::yuck:

Chi-Sky21 May 3, 2021 1:01 PM

Well, when they finally start building some towers in the Shire those will take our inglorious titles away.

Skyguy_7 May 3, 2021 1:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chicubs111 (Post 9266866)
Chicago has a knack at making certain 500ft plus buldings look short and stubby... just like lakepoint tower is shortest looking 70 story building you will see


On the bright side, Lakepoint Tower, among other stubby towers, make for a more dense-looking skyline at night.

Tom In Chicago May 3, 2021 4:55 PM

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Originally Posted by harryc (Post 9255518)
Choke much ? this should be amusing after the fireworks.





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I'm hoping most people will just not know it's there. . . lost tourists don't usually make it down to Harbor Drive. . . some do, but it's not a nuisance. . . yet. . .

. . .

Steely Dan May 3, 2021 8:20 PM

from MC roofdeck 5/3:

peek-a-boo!

https://i.postimg.cc/LXQDh4Bz/PXL-20...-192613258.jpg

jc5680 May 15, 2021 3:17 PM


ardecila May 15, 2021 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by harryc (Post 9255518)
Choke much ? this should be amusing after the fireworks.

I think if there are crowds heading inland after an event, they would just continue through the tunnel to LSE park on the lower level, rather than going up a narrow staircase. Then they can fan out to various access points to continue east (Field Blvd, 2x Aqua stairs, elevators in the Village Market, etc).

The real value of the stair is for the many random tourists who end up on Harbor Drive trying to walk to Navy Pier. All you need is one sign directing these folks down the "hill" past Cirrus and they will end up at DuSable Harbor where the new flyover takes them the rest of the way. Reopening the stairs on the LSD bridgehouses will help to bring people from the riverwalk to Navy Pier too.

left of center May 16, 2021 2:20 AM

They really should find a way to better connect the river walk to Navy Pier. LSD makes it such a mess for out of towners to figure out how to get from the river walk/Michigan Ave to the Pier. Its like a tourist black hole over there

harryc May 16, 2021 5:36 PM

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NYC2ATX May 25, 2021 3:57 AM

You know many have opined on the choice of which color, brown or beige, was placed closer or further from the lake on which building .. but in the above picture they appear to play perfectly off their neighboring buildings that abut them exactly from this view. That may or may not have been done intentionally but it clearly was the best choice.

Toasty Joe May 25, 2021 1:59 PM

this easternmost area of Lakeshore East would look 10x better if these buildings differed in height more. Parcel I should help but it will still look like a crayon sticking up out of the box?

Zimme May 26, 2021 12:12 AM

5/23

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colemonkee May 26, 2021 12:56 AM

Wow, the park is starting to look like it's been there for awhile now.

Klippenstein May 28, 2021 10:58 PM

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9e6c7a60_b.jpg

Taken from the flyover today.

jc5680 May 29, 2021 2:46 PM


harryc May 29, 2021 3:00 PM

^^ If they could keep the top open like that - the gap on the 3rd level down. Not only is it the buildings own private lakefront deck, but the condos above become even more exclusive.

rivernorthlurker May 29, 2021 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by harryc (Post 9295682)
^^ If they could keep the top open like that - the gap on the 3rd level down. Not only is it the buildings own private lakefront deck, but the condos above become even more exclusive.

Do you know if there will be a deck on the first setback?

Klippenstein Jun 2, 2021 4:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker (Post 9296006)
Do you know if there will be a deck on the first setback?

I was curious too and I found this rendering.

dropdeaded209 Jun 2, 2021 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by harryc (Post 9295682)
^^ If they could keep the top open like that - the gap on the 3rd level down. Not only is it the buildings own private lakefront deck, but the condos above become even more exclusive.

lol try pitching this to the Vista crowd :haha:

rivernorthlurker Jun 2, 2021 6:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Klippenstein (Post 9299083)
I was curious too and I found this rendering.

Link not working for me but this slide on their site shows a 'private owner's terrace' so it looks like there is one for the condo owners. https://cirruscondos.com/amenities#slide5

jc5680 Jun 6, 2021 3:42 PM



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