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Mandating the vaccine is really the best hope. Obviously we can’t grab people and force them to get shots, but making it so that life is very difficult without a vaccine should be a strategy.
Some thoughts for US States: 1. Mandate a vaccine card to enter drivers license renewal facilities 2. Heck, require a vaccine card to enter any State or Federal building or office 3. All schools, Universities, Colleges need to require vaccine for 12 and older 4. To get the die hard Trumpians, require proof of vaccination to renew hunting or fishing licenses, for commercial driving licenses (truckers, etc) 5. Proof of vaccination needed for all trade incense renewals (GC, plumbing, electrical, etc) as well as most other licenses that involve working with the public (medical, dental, dental hygienist, hairstyling, pharmaceutical, tattoo parlor, liquor, etc) I realize these are a long shot and legally questionable, but we need to get creative with the vaccine hesitant fucktards |
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- We have vaccines that are widely available and free - The vaccines provide very strong protection against serious illness or death; 98% of hospital admissions in the US are now unvaccinated people - The healthcare system is no longer under significant strain due to Covid - Younger people were never in any meaningful danger from Covid - It is extremely unlikely for the virus to mutate into a highly vaccine-resistant variant in the near term - It is practically impossible to completely eliminate Covid globally through vaccination All of this taken together means we’re done. You offer people the vaccine, they can have it or take their chances. Vaccinated people aren’t actually at risk from infected people around them - that’s the point of the vaccines. While a vaccine-resistant strain is theoretically possible, it’s very unlikely to just emerge all of a sudden. Perhaps with mutation on mutation on mutation, if we’re unlucky, but that would take time and the scientific/medical community will obviously be monitoring it and developing targeted boosters as necessary. Further lockdowns should not be tolerated, this mask-wearing nonsense needs to end, and there is no justification for the step toward authoritarianism that vaccine mandates entail. |
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2. The second sentence can be changed to justify never leaving the house: "Most importantly, workplace commutes have led to serious injuries and deaths." Now you have justified never driving to work. |
^ Plus those serious illnesses and deaths took place pre- vaccines. If they take place now it’s only the unvaccinated individual that would suffer, and that’s their own damn fault.
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As per the thread we lead CA in new cases I guess, so my county is adapting bay area rules. The masks are coming and I have a pack ready to go in my truck. Quote:
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80% is probably not a reasonable goal at this point, if we're talking about America as a whole. Sure, there might be some neighborhoods, cities, or even metro areas with 80%+ vaccination rates (even the high vaccine uptake Bay Area is still only at 77% fully vaccinated for ages 12+), but as you zoom out, CA is only at 63% fully vaccinated for ages 18+.
The US right now is only at 60% fully vaccinated for ages 18+ and 57% for ages 12+. Like TWAK said, everybody is likely firm with their vaccine position right now, so I don't see how we'll ever get to 80%. |
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A higher R value means a much higher proportion of the general public needs to be immune/resistant (either due to prior infection or vaccines) before it burns itself out. |
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The delta strain of SARS-CoV-2 is now probably more infectious that was the Spanish Flu. That burned itself out after 2 years and 2 waves. I suspect the current wave of covid could be the last in the developed world UNLESS a strain emerges that is substantially different immunologically though if that happens there's no telling if it is more deadly or less deadly. It could actually produce a milder illness--something humans could just live with. |
Effects of businesses downsizing their space and going to hybrid work from home schedules continues to be felt. I wonder how permanent it will be?
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Being "deadly" has EVERYTHING to do with it. I don't get how this idea keeps sailing way over your head. If catching COVID (for vaccinated people) does not cause any meaningful death rate above, say, common cold or Flu or RSV, then there is nothing more to care about. But I'm sure you still don't get it, because you are being willfully obstinate about this particular issue. |
An editorial that I wholeheartedly agree with
July 23, 2021
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I keep advocating my model I am following where I go into WeWorks to work. I am around people, there's socialization, but they aren't my co workers. I can see a future where people come in a couple days, pow-wow in conference rooms, or in spaces for a couple days, then work from home the rest of the week. Then again, we will see .... I could be completely off in my predictions. |
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