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harryc May 4, 2018 9:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 8177254)
May 15th Community Meeting

Sheaton Hotel

6-8

The one on East North Water ?

Kumdogmillionaire May 4, 2018 10:34 PM

I'm aroused by this news. I'm ready related to blue ball me again though lol

Kngkyle May 4, 2018 11:25 PM

Related is going all out in the next 2 weeks. The 78 on May 10th and now this on May 15th. These two projects have been in the pipeline for years.. the anticipation is going to kill us.

marothisu May 4, 2018 11:31 PM

Please do not suck....

BVictor1 May 5, 2018 4:46 AM

Officially...

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400 North Lake Shore Drive (former Spire site)
Representatives from Related Midwest's development team will present plans and answer questions regarding the development proposal for 400 North Lake Shore Drive.

WHAT: 400 North Lake Shore Drive Development Proposal

WHO: Hosted by Alderman Brendan Reilly and the
Streeterville Organization of Active Residents (SOAR)

WHEN: Tuesday, May 15, 2018, 6:00 P.M. - 8:00 P.M.

WHERE: Sheraton Grand Chicago - Chicago Ballroom 9 and 10
301 E. North Water St., Chicago, IL 60611

Alderman Reilly works hard to provide an open and transparent community review of all local development proposals. We hope you can join the Alderman, Chicago Loop Alliance, and SOAR to engage in a direct dialogue with the development team to gain a better understanding of their proposals and receive answers to any questions you may have.

the urban politician May 5, 2018 1:59 PM

Hmmmm..... Is this the right time to propose a huge project?

We’ve got the Tribune lot, OCS, and Vista still trying to sell their inventory.

Interesting...

maru2501 May 5, 2018 2:58 PM

doesn't seem like room for Trib and this in the current market, but probably room for one

marothisu May 5, 2018 3:14 PM

Well considering this thing probably wouldn't be finished until what, like 2021 or 2022 at the earliest ..I think we're going to be OK.

Bonsai Tree May 5, 2018 3:33 PM

I would say that if they start construction as soon as possible (within this year), they really won't have a lot of competition when this structure is finished in say 2022. Sure, they will have OCS, but I think both structures can fit into the market at that time. If Tribune tower starts in 2020, then its completion in 2023/24 also won't have competition. I'd be surprised if they wanted to start construction more than a year or two from now. It seems to be the ideal time now.

Sky88 May 5, 2018 5:18 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 8177746)
Hmmmm..... Is this the right time to propose a huge project?

We’ve got the Tribune lot, OCS, and Vista still trying to sell their inventory.

Interesting...

I don't think it will be a huge project. Related Midwest doesn't have the resources for a high tower. It will only be a small project.

the urban politician May 5, 2018 6:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sky88 (Post 8177888)
I don't think it will be a huge project. Related Midwest doesn't have the resources for a high tower. It will only be a small project.

All of the “word” we’ve been hearing around here has been to the contrary

Busy Bee May 5, 2018 7:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sky88 (Post 8177888)
I don't think it will be a huge project. Related Midwest doesn't have the resources for a high tower. It will only be a small project.


Nonsense. As in that makes no sense. Also no basis for such a statement.

Kumdogmillionaire May 5, 2018 7:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sky88 (Post 8177888)
I don't think it will be a huge project. Related Midwest doesn't have the resources for a high tower. It will only be a small project.

Yeah, they are just a company of Related, the same developer that is completing the Hudson Yards project in NYC. Yep, definitely don't have resources for a high tower.

Really dude? I mean ffs, they just finished OBP which is well over 800 feet tall and that wasn't even that big of news

Notyrview May 5, 2018 8:10 PM

It'll be a supertall but not gonna get my hopes up for anything beyond mediocre. I hope I'm wrong.

10023 May 5, 2018 9:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zapatan (Post 8177989)
I think Related Midwest is separate from Related NY, if I'm not mistaken.

It’s all the same group.

230Roberto May 5, 2018 9:18 PM

I'm expecting 800-1000 ft for shorter tower. 1300-1800 ft for taller.

DONT JUDGE ME

Notyrview May 5, 2018 9:24 PM

c’mon 1800

left of center May 5, 2018 9:24 PM

Well this is exciting! Lets hope for an epic design, since there will be unobstructed views of this thing from the lake and river pretty much for eternity. Related better not disappoint...

Fvn May 5, 2018 9:27 PM

If the design is amazing I don't care about height as much, but it would be kinda a waste for the site considering it has the foundations for such.

LouisVanDerWright May 5, 2018 10:07 PM

A little birdie told me this will be 7099' tall and designed by Lucien Lagrange.

Notyrview May 5, 2018 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 8178048)
A little birdie told me this will be 7099' tall and designed by Lucien Lagrange.

Lolol

Kumdogmillionaire May 5, 2018 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 8178048)
A little birdie told me this will be 7099' tall and designed by Lucien Lagrange.

The hat on that thing would be a thousand feet tall according to Lagrange proportions. For that reason alone, bring it on baby

230Roberto May 5, 2018 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 8178048)
A little birdie told me this will be 7099' tall and designed by Lucien Lagrange.

They just stated the tower will have a taller brother!

rgarri4 May 5, 2018 11:53 PM

finally!

Bombardier May 6, 2018 12:13 PM

I'm hearing taller tower (condo/hotel) under 1,000'. Shorter tower (rental) under 800'.

Kumdogmillionaire May 6, 2018 1:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bombardier (Post 8178376)
I'm hearing taller tower (condo/hotel) under 1,000'. Shorter tower (rental) under 800'.

Hopefully the project gets blocked then. That's weak

230Roberto May 6, 2018 1:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bombardier (Post 8178376)
I'm hearing taller tower (condo/hotel) under 1,000'. Shorter tower (rental) under 800'.

thats not "way" taller

HomrQT May 6, 2018 3:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bombardier (Post 8178376)
I'm hearing taller tower (condo/hotel) under 1,000'. Shorter tower (rental) under 800'.

Well that's depressing if true.

chicubs111 May 6, 2018 4:37 PM

^That def is very weak if true... Such a prominent site ..its needs developer with vision

BraveNewWorld May 6, 2018 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bombardier (Post 8178376)
I'm hearing taller tower (condo/hotel) under 1,000'. Shorter tower (rental) under 800'.

That’s terrible. And definitely not way taller by any measure. Where did you hear this?

left of center May 6, 2018 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bombardier (Post 8178376)
I'm hearing taller tower (condo/hotel) under 1,000'. Shorter tower (rental) under 800'.

I sincerely hope those sources are misinformed. It would be a waste of such a prolific site to put up a tower of only average height.

BVictor1 May 6, 2018 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 230Roberto (Post 8178414)
thats not "way" taller

No it isn't... They better not have been fucking with me...

230Roberto May 6, 2018 11:38 PM

^^ YEA! I dont think they know you run this mafia. IM ROOTING FOR YOU.

Kumdogmillionaire May 7, 2018 1:17 AM

I say we all pose as NIMBY's to try to block it if they lied to our lord and saint BVic

Only a tiny bit sarcastic

Bonsai Tree May 7, 2018 3:08 AM

Everyone needs to chill. I'm sure the height will be fine because of the other design we saw earlier this year. That design was around 1,500 feet, and was part of the same "contest" to design 400 n lake shore drive. My guess is that they gave the actual architects the same basic framework (two towers, one around 1500 ft, the other at 800 ft) etc. Unless things have changed drastically since then, I bet the height will 1500 ft. :shrug:

Notyrview May 7, 2018 3:12 AM

Autunovich, 3000 meters

emathias May 7, 2018 4:15 AM

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Originally Posted by harryc (Post 8163258)

For those wondering, that's a tower for testing elevators. The skin is fiberglass.

Blahshead May 7, 2018 4:24 AM

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Originally Posted by emathias (Post 8178956)
For those wondering, that's a tower for testing elevators. The skin is fiberglass.

Unbelievable. I thought that was fake.

emathias May 7, 2018 4:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Blahshead (Post 8178966)
Unbelievable. I thought that was fake.

I know, it looks fake, right?

HomrQT May 7, 2018 4:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire (Post 8178826)
I say we all pose as NIMBY's to try to block it if they lied to our lord and saint BVic

Only a tiny bit sarcastic

Might be the first group of NIMBYs to argue FOR increased height.

Fvn May 7, 2018 4:58 AM

Damn Jahn.

http://www.jahn-us.com/projects/towe...rup-test-tower

Bombardier May 7, 2018 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BraveNewWorld (Post 8178726)
That’s terrible. And definitely not way taller by any measure. Where did you hear this?

Someone with an NDA... Architect, engineers, consultants, and contractor have all been hired at this point.

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Originally Posted by Bonsai Tree (Post 8178895)
Everyone needs to chill. I'm sure the height will be fine because of the other design we saw earlier this year. That design was around 1,500 feet, and was part of the same "contest" to design 400 n lake shore drive. My guess is that they gave the actual architects the same basic framework (two towers, one around 1500 ft, the other at 800 ft) etc. Unless things have changed drastically since then, I bet the height will 1500 ft. :shrug:

I guess those in denial can hold out hope until next Tuesday.

lu9 May 7, 2018 1:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bombardier (Post 8179081)
Someone with an NDA... Architect, engineers, consultants, and contractor have all been hired at this point.



I guess those in denial can hold out hope until next Tuesday.

I guess I'll bite... did you hear anything about the design?

LouisVanDerWright May 7, 2018 1:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bombardier (Post 8179081)
Someone with an NDA... Architect, engineers, consultants, and contractor have all been hired at this point.



I guess those in denial can hold out hope until next Tuesday.

I have a hard time believing they are this far along before even going public. They are going to have to amend the PD to make changes this significant and it's likely that whatever they are planning now will have to be tweeked or seriously altered after going through aldermanic rigamarole. Having hired a contractor based on bids based on plans that don't necessarily reflect the final project is foolish.

I can see them being eager to get going if they are happy with the numbers on their OBP project, but Related isn't stupid, they are not going to contract everything out until they have final drawings or close to it.

That said, I don't really care how tall it is as long as it's good design. Unfortunately this is Related we are dealing with it so it will probably be a permanent blight on the skyline because it's a horrendous design and/or they will hack it to death with VE. Because Related is involved I'm imagining some sort of 750' tall bastard love child of 500 N LSD and presidential towers. Bland, non descript, cheaply built, and extremely prominent in the skyline.

Steely Dan May 7, 2018 2:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bombardier (Post 8178376)
I'm hearing taller tower (condo/hotel) under 1,000'. Shorter tower (rental) under 800'.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/6743ff6c...0jwoo1_540.jpg
source: https://www.tumblr.com/search/c.m.%20burns

Jibba May 7, 2018 4:34 PM

The slight chip on my Chicago shoulder wants our tallest buildings to be Chicagoan-designed, so if this isn't the tallest I'm OK with that. Having Sears, Vista, 401 N. Wabash, and potentially Tribune parcel tower reign is good in my book.

Though, Calatrava isn't a Chicagoan and the Spire design was just the most fantastic thing ever, that I would have gladly accepted...

maru2501 May 7, 2018 5:01 PM

agree good design > height

there will be no hiding this one.. forever

Steely Dan May 7, 2018 5:15 PM

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Originally Posted by maru2501 (Post 8179375)
good design > height

of course.

but i want both for this site.

because i'm a greedy man.

Bombardier May 7, 2018 5:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 8179152)
I have a hard time believing they are this far along before even going public. They are going to have to amend the PD to make changes this significant and it's likely that whatever they are planning now will have to be tweeked or seriously altered after going through aldermanic rigamarole. Having hired a contractor based on bids based on plans that don't necessarily reflect the final project is foolish.

I can see them being eager to get going if they are happy with the numbers on their OBP project, but Related isn't stupid, they are not going to contract everything out until they have final drawings or close to it.

Contractor has been hired for preconstruction only at this point.

aaron38 May 7, 2018 5:23 PM

Maybe it’s time to give low balling tactics a chance in NIMBY land. Coming in with a massive tower energizes the NIMBYs to riot. Maybe coming in with a more modest initial design that is well designed will get people thinking positively about it, get them accepting it. Then if there is lots of demand, they can stretch it.
Obviously they’d have to design to account for it. But enough towers have been DOA that it’s worth a shot.


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