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ethereal_reality Sep 8, 2010 1:04 AM

^^^ PHX31, I can't recall where I found this 'Dracula' broadside.
If I come across a larger version I'll certainly post it for you.

ethereal_reality Sep 8, 2010 1:17 AM

I spoke too soon PHX31.

Here is a link.
Scroll down to 'source' in the gray box.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...rston_1938.jpg



....or simply go here.

http://loc.gov/pictures/resource/cph.3f05691/

PHX31 Sep 8, 2010 4:43 AM

/\ Thanks!

ethereal_reality Sep 8, 2010 7:24 PM

http://a.imageshack.us/img291/7433/l...ionbroacas.jpg
j_journal


Above: The Cadillac dealership at 7th and Bixel where on December 23, 1931, Don Lee's W6XAO launched
one of the country's first regular television broadcasts.





Below: The 1939 plan for the Don Lee studio/transmitter atop Mt. Lee.

http://a.imageshack.us/img153/1124/11donlee.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img291/3852/11donlee2.jpg
earlytelevision.org

A less grandiose studio/transmitter was eventually built.


below: A 1941 postcard of the Mt. Lee broadcasting station.

http://a.imageshack.us/img153/1880/1...41postcard.jpg
earlytelevision.org



Below: Much to my surprise, there was actually a pool up on Mt. Lee.

http://a.imageshack.us/img225/1571/1...eepool1939.jpg
earlytelevision.org

Above: A 1939 telecast from the swimming pool located at the new W6XAO studios/transmitter situated on Mt. Lee atop the Hollywood Hills


Here is the very interesting link.
http://www.earlytelevision.org/w6xao.html

ethereal_reality Sep 8, 2010 8:20 PM

A stylized illustration of Don Lee's Mt. Lee Television Station.


http://a.imageshack.us/img227/989/11...ardcalifbo.jpg
postcard/ebay

GaylordWilshire Sep 8, 2010 9:32 PM

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/c...s/012089pr.jpgLibrary of Congress

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TO...12804%20AM.jpgGoogle Street View

Would someone please rescue The Darkroom from its current humiliation?

GaylordWilshire Sep 8, 2010 9:52 PM

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics48/00043701.jpgLAPL

This jewelbox of a building at 611 S. La Brea was designed by Morgan, Walls & Clements ca. 1928. Chrysler introduced the DeSoto line for the 1929 model year (photo July 1929).


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TO...12346%20AM.jpgGoogle Street View

The facade has been cut down, the ironwork on the upper windows has been lost, and the part to the right has vanished, but at least this much survives.

Steve2726 Sep 9, 2010 4:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4965956)



below: An excellant view of the mile long wharf in 1916.

http://a.imageshack.us/img576/3531/l...npacificwh.jpg
usc




Is that snow on the mountains above Malibu and along the tracks in the lower right corner??

If so, wow!

gsjansen Sep 10, 2010 10:54 AM

set your dvr's
 
If you haven't seen it yet, Kent MacKenzie's excellent 1961 film of Native Americans living in bunker hill, The Exiles, will be shown on turner classic movies at 5:00am, (eastern time) Monday September 20th.

ethereal_reality Sep 10, 2010 4:47 PM

Thanks for the heads up. I've been wanting to see 'The Exiles' for quite some time.

GaylordWilshire Sep 10, 2010 5:13 PM

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TI...20017%20PM.jpgGoogle

On many trips to Los Angeles over the years, I've gone on architectural expeditions armed with various guides, always more interested in residential development than any other aspect of the built environment. I've always tried to conjure what the streetscape must have been like long ago, and there are literally dozens of guides and histories that do a good job of describing what seems to be an idyllic way of life (if politically a nightmare by modern, or at least my, standards). But even actually driving around old L.A. neighborhoods hour upon hour fails to give the feeling I sought--too many changes, modern cars, architectural gaps etc---and, of course, what I seek isn't really obtainable. Now that I've done some of the same "drives" using Google Maps, and employing Street View (which enables me find a shot of a street that excludes as much as possible cars, blue garbage bins etc), suddenly I've found that sense of L.A. past I've been seeking all along. I am going to post a link to a slideshow of such shots later--they're really much more effective when viewed in a series, full-screen--but want to start with this one above of 1631 S. Wilton Place (south of Venice Blvd.). Most of the pics I've put together have ordinary or at least unknown stories, but this house is where Marion Parker was living with her family at the time of her death in December 1927. The house, as sopas pointed out a year or so ago, seems eerily unchanged. The pic above is meant to evoke what it might have been like to walk by the house in 1927. (I hope all the shots you see after this will have the effect of looking as though they were taken many decades ago rather than literally just the other day.) Here is the same shot of the Parker house, but wider, to give the house some context:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-d...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle

An excellent summary of the sad case of Marion, including a link to a shot of the house in 1927: http://www.cemeteryguide.com/gotw-parker.html

And another site with the story: http://markgribben.com/?p=288

gsjansen Sep 10, 2010 9:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 4976640)
If you haven't seen it yet, Kent MacKenzie's excellent 1961 film of Native Americans living in bunker hill, The Exiles, will be shown on turner classic movies at 5:00am, (eastern time) Monday September 20th.


i double, (and triple checked), it's actually 6:00 AM eastern time, (5:00 AM central)

ethereal_reality Sep 10, 2010 11:48 PM

Very interesting post GaylordWilshire.
Marion Parker's demise was extraordinarily gruesome.

sopas ej Sep 11, 2010 1:33 AM

I probably mentioned it before already, but very good book on the Marion Parker murder case is "Stolen Away: The True Story of California's Most Shocking Kidnap-Murder," by Michael Newton. I think it's out of print, but I'm sure it's available at public libraries. I bought my copy used on amazon; the book was published in 2000. It's pretty detailed, and even gives addresses. I became really obsessed with the case when I found out that the murderer lived briefly in Alhambra, and that while he held Marion Parker captive, they actually went out and saw a movie together at the Rialto Theatre in South Pasadena, which is right near me (and closed a few years ago).

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...WL._SS500_.jpg
amazon.com

I have another book that has a picture of the dismembered Marion's body at the LA County Morgue.

GaylordWilshire Sep 11, 2010 12:25 PM

L.A. Now--or Then?
 
http://www.uncanny.net/~wetzel/23rdatEstrella.jpgTom Wetzel
http://www.uncanny.net/~wetzel/estrella.jpgTom Wetzel
both 23rd and Estrella

Inspired by the photos above, and George Mann's of Bunker Hill, I put together this short slideshow of current shots from Google, which, with a lot less imagination than is required if you actually drive these same streets (in West Adams, University Park, Jefferson Park, Harvard Heights, Mid-City, Alvarado Terrace, and the last in Windsor Square), give an idea of residential Los Angeles before WWII.

Once you click on the link below, hit "F11" to go to full screen, and then start the show by clicking "Slideshow" at upper left.
http://picasaweb.google.com/11576117...eat=directlink


The b&ws of the intersection of Estrella and 23rd above are labeled on the website on which I found them as scenes "obliterated by the Harbor Freeway"--in fact, Estrella Street itself is described as a "street that no longer exists." Well, the intersection and two blocks of Estrella do indeed still exist, along with most of the same palms and the principal buildings in the b&ws--there is even a mailbox still in the same place on the north side of 23rd:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...63805%20PM.jpgGoogle Street View

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...64007%20PM.jpgGoogle Street View

That's Chester Place on left in the shot toward the west on 23rd.

sopas ej Sep 19, 2010 3:32 AM

I went to Signal Hill today to take pictures. Why? Because I do stuff like that.

Going with the noir/hardboiled detective theme, Signal Hill holds some fascination for me. Not so much by how it looks today, but because of its history. For a good part of its history as a city, it was mostly oil fields. Raymond Chandler worked for an oil company here before he became a writer. Some of his stories have incidents that happen in Signal Hill. And when I hear that line from "Double Indemnity" where Barbara Stanwyck's character says about her husband that she guesses "he's been too busy down at Long Beach in the oil fields," it makes me think of Signal Hill (which is surrounded by Long Beach), but Long Beach had oil fields too-- and also still has some oil wells here and there. Anyways...

Gradually the oil companies left, and now Signal Hill wants to go the typical suburban cookie-cutter suburban tract home and shopping center route. But a lot of oil wells still remain, of course they're no longer the towering wooden oil derricks, but the bobbing metal pump type. They're adjacent to some of the tract homes.

These two pics are of Signal Hill in 1933.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...9_675514_n.jpg
USC Archive

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6134526_n.jpg
USC Archive

And these are pics of Signal Hill that I took today (9.18.10).

I don't think I'd like an oil well next to my backyard. Oh, please ignore the dirty black Honda.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7252823_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5344551_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2467490_n.jpg

Here's an oil well next to an old Craftsman.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...9_874737_n.jpg

Raymond Chandler probably wouldn't recognize this as Signal Hill. Signal Hill still has a strange feel to it, for some reason, at least to me. The random oil wells, maybe? Like something sinister can happen here...
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4219921_n.jpg

ethereal_reality Sep 19, 2010 9:42 PM

I can see your point about Signal Hill sopas_ej.
There's a strange ennui going on in that neighbor, despite the sunshine.
Photographs of Echo Park give me a similar feeling.

GaylordWilshire Sep 19, 2010 11:02 PM

Film Industry Noir
 
http://ferdyonfilms.com/girl27.jpgboston.com

A 1937 film-industry scandal apparently reported only outside of Los Angeles--the rape of movie extra Patricia Douglas--is the subject of an interesting 2007 documentary I just came across called Girl 27. It's available on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClnIc5wb8Qs

A review: http://www.ferdyonfilms.com/?tag=hollywood


http://filmmakermagazine.com/directo...7_1-766663.jpgfilmmakermagazine.com
Accused and accuser ( David Ross and Patricia Douglas), pushed together by photographers at a hearing in the Hall of Justice downtown.


An excerpt of an April 2003 Vanity Fair article on the case by the maker of the documentary, David Stenn, can be seen here: http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2...86-7028154_ITM (registration is required to view the full article).


http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TJ...14438%20PM.jpgGoogle
Patricia Douglas and her mother lived at 1160 S. Bronson in 1937.

ethereal_reality Sep 20, 2010 12:51 AM

Very interesting GaylordWilshire.
Thx for the links......I'll have to check out that youtube video.

Sometimes I'm amazed how a small building like 1160 S. Bronson can continue to exist year after year.

ethereal_reality Sep 20, 2010 4:14 AM

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9...gunnwasama.jpg
ucla

The only information with this photograph was the woman's name, Dolores Gunn.
I believe she was a madam. I'm not sure why she is campaigning.


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