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Chuckaluck Dec 4, 2013 5:56 PM


Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 6362608)
The picture at the bottom showing H.J. Wollacott next door, would probably be 1880 or so since Henry J. Wollacott appears in the 1880 Census and is noted to be a saloon keeper with his brother William. His address in that census is Spring Street near New High. That is probably his home address, since there are families next door to him on both sides. Henry Wollacott also appears in the directory for 1910 but by then he is Vice President of J.R. Lane Dry Goods Company located at 1115 S. Alvarado

Thank you for exploring this.

Speaking of Hollywood Blvd. icons hiding in the shadows

More suspect dates?

Depending upon source, this beautiful image is from 1930 or the 1940's. I lean toward '30 for a number of reasons.

The better image ~"194_"

The bigger image ~ 1930

And another version? (bottom left)

Martin Pal Dec 4, 2013 8:36 PM


Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6362215)
Cahuenga Pass and . . .


BifRayRock Dec 4, 2013 8:51 PM


Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6362074)
-early view of Angels Flight

At left is the simple arch that existed before the iconic Angels Flight entrance was installed. The B.P.O.E. (Elks) Building
is under construction atop the hill. At right is the three story building built for Kate Stamps in 1905 designed by Morgan and Watts.

-Building Permit-

We've seen (and discussed) the vegetarian restaurant in Ms. Stamps' building numerous times on the thread, but the word TREATMENT
on the facade is more rare. I believe it's referring to the Saint Helena Sanitarium that occupied the upper floors.
(in later photographs the word 'Treatment' has been replaced by 'Furnished Rooms")


Don't recall seeing this view of AngelsF. (Squint to the far right) The Merry Widow's exhibition suggests this image is twenty years younger than ER's image, or approximately 1925-6. The long exposure-superimposition of car and street car gives this an eerie quality.

References to radium tunnel illumination conjured another recent image. The smoke trailing a horseless carriage makes even radium an imperfect lighting solution - without a monster exhaust fan.


Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6040408)
Details . . . details . . . details.

1910 Hill Street (re-revisited)

When were sidewalk curbs cast rather than carved?

Just how popular was vegetarian cuisine in 1910?

What is this light fixture advertising?

Relax and unwind at The Hulbert?:uhh:

*Conveniently located near the lifeblood of the city. Close to the Walcourt, pool rooms, cigars, landscaped hill, knowledgeable night clerk, and vegetarian take out. Lifeblood includes minimal privacy and questionable noise (and aroma) sequestration from the likes of equine hooves, street cars, non-pneumatic tires and two clangers named Olivet and Sinai.

Lwize Dec 4, 2013 9:18 PM

BifRayRock Dec 4, 2013 9:51 PM

April 26-27, 1899 - San Pedro Free Harbor Jubilee. Somewhere downtown: Barker Bros. Hotel Van Nuys Annex??
Could this flag have been depicted below? Although white bulbs would have been impressive, wonder if colored bulbs were available and used in 1899 (Colored glass filter, yes) ?

1902 - Third and Spring. CC Pierce image capturing Edison Electric's handiwork. (Wouldn't mind seeing a daylight version to help identify even mundane objects. What is in right foreground: a hut, newspaper rack, seismograph? :koko:)

The original Ironman? Light starch please!

How many treasures were sacrificed?

1938 - San Gabriel Art Gallery on W Santa Anita Ave. (Exact location undetermined)

:cool: Did the Edison name remain until the building was sold to First Business Bank?



BifRayRock Dec 4, 2013 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6358167)
Chuckaluck's picture above provides a nice segue between Carpenter's Sandwiches (far right) and the view down Wilshire that I've been looking at.

I know the tiled Texaco service station at New Hampshire and Wilshire has been on NLA several times before, but I think this close-up is new. The service station stood nearly opposite the I. Magnin store - for a wider shot of both, and a lot more history of this block, see GW's blogspot post on 3240 Wilshire Boulevard.
USC Digital Library

Here's a better view of the service station. Again, I know that similar pictures have been posted before, but I don't remember seeing this one with the Green T Cafe on the left. There's three zoomable pictures in the set (link below image).
USC Digital Library

Of course, this is the old Calpet station, but I did doubt that for a while because e-r's earlier picture makes it look like the wings sweep back.

I now realize that it's just an optical illusion/camera trickery, as can be seen in the picture below. The Calpet station was adorned with far less signage than the later Texaco.
California State Library


Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5895853)
A fantastic postcard from the 1920s.

Judging from the neon tubing in the top photo, when the Texaco station displayed its fire chief helmet, things got even more colorful (or gaudy) than the color photo!

GaylordWilshire Dec 4, 2013 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6363209)
1938 - San Gabriel Art Gallery on W Santa Anita Ave. (Exact location undetermined)

Northwest corner of W Santa Anita Ave and S Mission Drive, San Gabriel...

BifRayRock Dec 4, 2013 10:35 PM

Thank you for locating the former art gallery! :previous:


Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5897743)


Another Wilshire Blvd. looking-east post card. Eastern sky color suggests morning (take warning) or secret testing in Nevada or New Mexico. Either way, it is quiet nice.

One might expect that Wilshire Blvd. received street markings, e.g., lane dividers, soon after it was paved. Or maybe the markings were omitted because they detracted from the sky. :uhh: :shrug:

Guessing the "new skyline" indicates early-mid 1930s.

Off the "beaten" Wilshire path, perhaps this circa 1940-image from the other end of town, with an equally interesting pallor, will make up for the diminished quality of the last one.

HossC Dec 4, 2013 10:36 PM

Thanks for the reminder of the color picture of the Wilshire Texaco station :).

BifRayRock Dec 4, 2013 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4776702)
Tally's New Broadway Theater at 6th ST. & Broadway.
usc digital archive

Can you imagine what this looked like at night with the exceptional electric signs (especially in 1905).

Below: Amazingly, the Elden Hotel building (1894) to the left of Tally's New Broadway is still there.
HomeE /


Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4776763)
Another view of the 1894 Elden Hotel Building in 2005.
It was renovated somewhat in 2007.
Jim Winstead

April 12, 1915 as marked. (10 - or maybe 5 - years after the Tally's photo :previous:) (Three years after the Titanic sank?)

Roosevelt in Africa (1909) at Tally's suggests the Tally's image is from 1909 or 1910. You can wait for it (Tally's) to return or view its main attraction here:

Looks like Silverwoods was next to Tally's and then expanded and annexed Tally's space.

Undated 6th and Broadway

June '28

1937(?) (Eldon and Painless Parker?)

ethereal_reality Dec 4, 2013 11:25 PM

:previous: You're finding some great night photographs BRR. They're electrifying. ;)
I thoroughly enjoyed your post on the Aliso Street viaduct HossC.

Hit by train, circa 1936.

Grand Canyon Limited? Here's some info.

Lower Lounge in the Dome car 'Plaza Santa Fe' -Grand Canyon Limited. (decor 1940s?)

1950 menu, Grand Canyon Limited

-don't skip...this is pretty interesting.


ethereal_reality Dec 4, 2013 11:57 PM

fun souvenir folder

-odd photo/why is the sailor's date excluded?
-perhaps this was the photographer's first day on the job. :)

BifRayRock Dec 5, 2013 12:51 AM


"Break it up, break it up," says Jerome Bonin of Breaux Bridge, La., now a Marine at Camp Elliott, to Norman Ulmer, sailor from San Diego, who is dancing with Jane Upstill on September 2, 1941. "Can you imagine that," said Ulmer, as he saw his girl dance away with the Marine. "I brought her with me myself."

Marlene with Steve Trevor

Marlene D at the Hollywood Canteen

ethereal_reality Dec 5, 2013 2:38 AM

Here's a very interesting place I've never heard of before.

ethereal_reality Dec 5, 2013 3:35 AM

Here's another one...Godfrey's

The name reminded me of one of my favorite screwball comedies 'My Man Godfrey' (1936).

Is this lobby card a tongue-in-cheek reference to 'The Bride of Frankenstein' released a year earlier in 1935?

montréaliste Dec 5, 2013 4:31 AM

OMG I had to drop in to once again acknowledge how much I love this thread. Keep up the great work fellas and fellarettes.

Those Who Squirm! Dec 5, 2013 5:57 AM


Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6360848)
Thanks Martin Pal for that fantastic post on Monkey Island.

I had no idea about the streamline facade that surrounded the 'island'.
I was especially surprised by the mention of a 6 story administration building. (surely we can turn up a photograph).

The thought occurred to me that it might be six monkey stories; for a typical monkey hanging by its tail at the zoo say three feet? Yes, I think so. Baboons get to be a lot bigger than that, and they're definitely monkeys taxonomically speaking; yet in everyday usage people usually don't mean baboons when they say monkeys; least of all the webmaster of anything that calls itself Circus Anonymous. I mean to say, I didn't see a single baboon in a circus even once, for the past twenty years running. Not even in the audience.

Now, marmosets, again, would have been a completely different situation...


The Monkey Island restaurant is a bit unsettling. I think I would avoid the daily special...especially if it's meat loaf.
Perhaps they served food for monkeys?

Those Who Squirm! Dec 5, 2013 6:13 AM

It is a nice restoration, but it's also sad that the rear annex is gone as are most other structures that once stood in this immediate vicinity. The first part of New High starting northward directly behind the Brunswig, has been lost to parking lot expansions and upgrades. Republic Street still appears on Google Maps but it is clearly not long for this world.

Sonny☼LA Dec 5, 2013 7:04 AM

Mob City on TNT
Wow - an hour and a half into Mob City on TNT tonight and I'm pretty sure it's the best noir I've seen since LA Confidential. I kind of live under a rock when it comes to TV and I'm glad I saw the NY Times ad this morning.

Some pretty excellent locations and a much more serious tone and rhythm than that pretty but totally empty Gangster Squad. Looks equally expensive. The Times said "Mr. Darabont (Shawshank Redemption), rather than fiddling with the noir formula as that movie did, settles for executing it expertly." I like the casting too, some familiar faces but lots of generally noirish characters. Ed Burns is on all the ads but I like the other guy better, Jon Bernthal - a bit like a young Fred Ward, maybe?

Anyway, it's three parts, 2 hours each I think - the next three Wednesdays at 9.

Edit: Okay, after the first night, I still say better than Gangster Squad but that isn't saying much. I'll just modify my judgement to say the "...the best noir I've seen on TV since Twin Peaks."

I just love that they got a Mickey who looks like Mickey, unlike the psycho genius played by Sean Penn.

Those Who Squirm! Dec 5, 2013 7:06 AM

Awesome story.

I made a somewhat similar discovery in my old neighborhood, near the Nuart Theatre in West L.A. In the very center of the small block bounded by Sawtelle, Corinth, Santa Monica, and Idaho there is apparently a 1906 house which I can't seem to find in Bing Maps or Google Earth. I'll have to drive over there one of these days to see if I can at least identify the building, although I don't expect it to be be a pure vintage Edwardian bungalow necessarily. After all, old buildings do get enlarged, refinished, stuccoed over, and so on.

Another odd thing about this is that in this case there are two parcels with the same Santa Monica Boulevard address; the other one being a typical storefront that faces the boulevard. Outside of condominium units, I've never seen multiple parcels sharing a common street address.

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