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Justice delayed...
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P.S. And thx for the 1909 shot of the Pacific Mutual Building, back when it was just five bays wide and before the Annex and Parking Garage. It always looks (to me anyway), standing in isolation, like a big pastry that got delivered to LA by mistake. |
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I could not live in that house. I would be creeped out every time I walked out the front door. |
Livin' in a crime scene
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http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...04#post5960204 Of course, some might say LA is one big crime scene. Which east coast paper called us "a blood-soaked paradise"? (and that was in the 1871 after the Chinese Massacre. We'd hardly got going yet) |
Safeway and Piggly Wiggly
Source notes reference "Sontag and Sam Selig" as grocers on [601] North Broadway, (then Downey Ave.) and that this consolidation eventually produced the Safeway Market chain. Another source pegs the date as 1905. http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/tf3j49n9rz/hi-res Groceteria.com tells of Sam Seelig's markets eventually merging with Marion Skaggs' (Idaho and Oregon) markets to form Safeway. The Sontag connection is not mentioned, but I recall someone mentioning a possible connection with the Sontag Drug stores - frequently depicted in images here. Have not been able to confirm this. Groceteria also discusses the acquisition of "Los Angeles-based Piggly Wiggly Western." Quote:
http://www.groceteria.com/wp-content...tions-1917.jpg http://www.groceteria.com/store/nati...feway-history/ Undated image of Glendale Intersection. Piggly Wiggly Market on left. http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics21/00060373.jpglapl Undated. 6305 Yucca Street. Yucca Vine Tower with nearby Piggly Wiggly http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics16/00007831.jpgLpal http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7...tainstates.jpghttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=905 1920s (?) Los Feliz and San Fernando Rd. Piggly Wiggly sign adjacent to water tower. http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics21/00060368.jpg lapl |
King Gillette / Palm Springs
One more King Gillette house before I let him RIP:
King Gillette Estate, La Mesa, Palm Springs (1922-23) https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k...341%2520PM.jpg gsv https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-c...118%2520PM.jpg mls The estate was huge when built, but has been subdivided to within an inch of its life: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-p...612%2520PM.jpg mls Trulia has more pix, price, address, floorplan, etc: http://www.trulia.com/property/31012...A-92264#item-0 The Guest House (shown in first pic) is for sale as a separate residence. Zillow has the address, pix and price. It's "affordable": http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/32...18032169_zpid/ (BTW, IDK why RE folks can't be bothered with decent pix or staging) Apparently King all but bankrupted himself buying real estate. I don't know who he hung out with or if there's a noiry story in there somewhere, but I keep thinking he would have gotten on just fine with Gaylord Wilshire or one of our other eccentric millionaires. (I've never found anything about Mrs. Gillette. When I Google Atlanta E. Gillette, I get E. Gillette Ave in Atlanta, GA.) |
1927 (?) Santa Monica Third Street. Quaint. :)
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De Simone's Market. Redondo Beach
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Credit: Vickey Kalambakal California's largest, independently-owned grocery store was a little bit of glamour in decidedly ramshackle South Bay when I was a kid (my glamorous and unstable mother had no patience for South Bay, she was forever organizing trips to "town", as we called LA). DeSimone's (we pronounced it "day-see-moanie's") was super-modern and luxe. It had a bakery, incredible, hand-packed, Italian ice cream and always gave change in Liberty silver dollars. I loved it. I was driving PCH soon after I returned to LA (after 15 years away) and saw this little beat-up grocery with a sign, "Same Location for Twenty-Five Years". It took me a full minute to recognize DeSimone's. I was so shocked I didn't stop. It closed in '76. Redondo Beach Patch has the DeSimone's story, which is quite a good one: http://redondobeach.patch.com/articl...#photo-3499294 |
You know what's REALLY sad?
There's not a single tree on that block of Norton. Not a one - on EITHER side of the street. Nothing to block the hot August sun, or provide relief from the monotonous residential landscape. And remember - this from a guy who thinks forcing trees into a CBD is silly. (Broadway - sans trees - looked just fine in 1940). But by the same token I am just as adamant about HAVING trees just about everywhere else...... Quote:
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I have a request
Can I ask a favor of those of you who post pictures from the USC archive? Since they changed their photos to be made up of multiple pieces, posting them inline can turn into a right mess. Can anyone posting these pics in pieces - with multiple IMG tags - please put a carriage return at the end of each row? (That is, a carriage return after the pieces that make up a 'row' of image). I think that's all that would be needed to force each row to go to the right spot regardless of monitor size. Without one, the first piece of row 2 can get put on the same line as row 1 and they can come out looking like this on a modern widescreen monitor:
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I believe the images can be "better" stitched together by changing your monitor's display settings. As a test, (if you have a PC) try hitting "control" and "+" keys to enlarge, or "control" and "-" keys to reduce. To reset things click "view" "zoom" and "rest." Apparently this issue does not affect all Noir'ers. Sorry about the inconvenience. |
King Gillette Estates
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It speaks to his former estate at the corner of Sunset and Crescent Heights that Gloria Swanson once owned. Being a huge Swanson fan, I have looked and looked for photos of that estate but have come up with nothing. Anyone have better luck??? ~Jon Paul |
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I think I've only posted one of those photos myself; returns took care of it that time, but not between every tag. If the total image is three pictures wide for instance, then a return would go every 3rd picture. Scaling up and down as you suggest seems to work however; probably easier for me to do that as needed than for people to put returns in and guess whether that fixes anything for others. Thanks for the suggestion. |
USC's new system is frustrating in some ways, but it also gives us the opportunity to zoom WAY in on pictures that up until now were only viewable at 800 x 600 pixels or so.
For instance, take this picture, which I can only assume has been seen here many, many times before: http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6...geles1940s.png At first I zoomed in because I wanted to check out the cars in the parking lot: http://imageshack.us/a/img405/3091/l...0scivicfro.png But then I couldn't help but notice the duo, just sitting on that dirt patch....I mean come on, those deadbeats HAVE to be up to no good! http://imageshack.us/a/img688/3091/l...0scivicfro.png So now it's got me re-pouring over USC's entire collection looking for little details like that, which is proving to be way more fun than I could've ever imagined. (Oh, and I circumvented the whole tile issue by taking screen shots and then uploading them onto my own host. It's a pain, but oh well.) |
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Rather than Sunset & Crescent Heights--the Gillette/Swanson house was at 904 N Crescent Dr in Beverly Hills (northeast corner of Sunset). Demolished. http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6123/swanson1.jpg http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5479/swanson2.jpg http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/750/swanson4.jpg http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/1326/swanson3.jpg Top2: LAPL Middle: Soultones Bottom: Silents Are Golden |
Thanks GW! Sorry about the "Heights" thing. I shouldn't be trusted typing late at night.
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http://www.groceteria.com/wp-content...tions-1917.jpg 1924 - "Sam Seelig Co., California's Leading Grocer." Lot's of nearby lumber too! http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics24/00046865.jpgLapl http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics49/00044287.jpgLapl 1938 - 321 Market Street, Inglewood. "Foodland" http://jpg1.lapl.org/00100/00100862.jpgLapl 1937 - 5509 Sunset Blvd. (Gone but not forgotten.) http://jpg1.lapl.org/00097/00097470.jpgLapl Undated - (Late 20's?) Crescent Heights and Santa Monica Blvd., W. Hollywood. http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics04/00011903.jpgLapl |
SHORTening the value ?
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Huntington Hartford Estate
Another one from my 'This is Hollywood' guide book that I'm not sure has gotten a mention here, though I could be wrong
'Just a few blocks north of Hollywood Blvd lie the remains of a once beautiful 148 acre estate...After passing through the main gates leading into the grounds a crumbling road takes you past the foundation and steps of what was once an English Gothic mansion......further up the curving road are the remains of tennis courts, two swimming pools and several cottages' http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ps8f62e80b.jpg Pretty sure that the tennis court in the centre of the grounds here. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...psb7acd8bc.jpg And a chunk of ruins here Here are the stairs http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-ge...ord-Estate.jpg http://loretta-ayeroff.photoshelter....0001aWw1hN3C20 Estate was built 1919-20 by Carman Randolph Runyon, who sold it to Irish Tenor John McCormack in the '20s. http://prints.encore-editions.com/0/...84-1945--2.jpg John McCormack In 1942 Supermarket magnate Huntington Hartford bought the estate and let it slowly deteriorate over the period upto the early 60's He lived to 97!! http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...rd_672600c.jpg http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obit...-Hartford.html anyone have any pictures of the original house?? Looks like the house was known as 'The Pines' and was once inhabited by Errol Flynn! |
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