Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6969499)

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posted earlier

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6969647)

Thank you Mstimc for the charming note. I am so glad that you had a rewarding day.

Thank you too loyalton and Earl Boebert for the info on hurdy-gurdys. I had not realized they engendered such hatred. I went on to read about them yesterday on wiki, finding that hurdy-gurdys are stringed instruments, with pre-11th-century origins, requiring an actual musician to play. Street organs have pre-programed tunes and require only a organ-grinder to turn a crank.

It became traditional in the old Soviet Union for blind men to play hurdy-gurdys in the streets while soliciting funds. However, they were all but wiped out in the 1930s when the authorities gathered 250 or so of them, under the guise of an ethnographic conference, and executed them as social undesirables.

New York mayor Fiorello LaGuardia outlawed street organs in 1935 because of their association with begging and organized crime. Other cities in the US and UK did the same. Both Charles Dickens and George Orwell railed against organ grinders, who, oft-times, let their instruments go out of tune, and cranked them so ineptly that the resulting sound constituted an assault. People paid the men for silence, not as a thank you for a pleasant tune.

I could find nothing re Los Angeles and organ grinders, but some must have thought they were a problem here too or they would not be outlawed in the Code.

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library of congress/wiki

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6968023)

If prohibition is good . . . so are hills.


Spring Street '39 (Bring back prohibition?)
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1930 (?) Spring Street
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6492771)

Yowsah!

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I just noticed the trees behind the Carolina Pines Jr. look like pines.
I don't know trees, so I'm guessing they're pines) I wonder if they survive?


the Carolina Pines Jr. site today
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GSV




below: Across the street is this fine one story building with twelve count'em twelve miniature dormers. SE corner Melrose & Martel Avenue.
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GSV
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Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5075366)

2 postcard views of [CHester Place]

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Source: LAPL http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics14/00026848.jpg

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another view of homes on Chester Place

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Source: LAPL http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics14/00026860.jpg

The Chester Place of today retains much of the charm of the old neighborhood with many of the mansions still intact. The neighborhood now is part of Mount St. Mary’s college satellite campus. The school was first given rights to operate out of number 2 Chester Place in 1957. After her death in 1958, Estelle left Chester Place to the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles, which transferred the land to Mount St. Mary’s College, which officially opened their second campus in 1962. The administration and teaching at the campus takes place in many of the historic mansions, although a new library has been added to the campus. Estelle also left the easternmost portion of Chester place bordering Figueroa Street to St. Vincent’s school.

here is a bingmaps birdseye view of chester place today centered on the Doheny Mansion

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6969836)

1750 Colorado Blvd. Pueblo Motel
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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6053609)

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Los Angeles High School (the second), ca.1902

View from Broadway between Temple and California Streets, northwest. The tall building with a clock tower is the second Los Angeles High School. The Broadway Tunnel, open less than a year, can be seen in the lower right. I especially like this shot of Fort Moore Hill as you can see some of the many oil wells in the distance. I believe the J.W. Robinson mansion can be seen immediately to the right of the high school.

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los angeles high school, 1908

Photograph of the exterior view of second Los Angeles High School with the American flag flying above the clock tower, Fort Moore Hill, Los Angeles, 1908. The 4-story brick building is surrounded by a low picket fence. Two entries are visible in this perspective -- one with a square portico (at left) and one under an arch (at right). The street runs along the front of the school. A sign posted in a vacant lot is beside the school reads: "for sale, C.O.G., has Goodwin [...]". Several trees are visible. Utility poles and lines run above the sidewalk and street.
"Los Angeles' first high school was located on Poundcake Hill, near First and Fort St. (which is now Broadway.) Los Angeles High School was created on the Central Elementary School site in 1873, at a cost of $20,000. The school's first principal was Dr. W.T. Lucky. Its first graduating class (1875) had 7 members. In 1882, to make room for the County Court House, the school was moved to Fort Moore Hill, where the present Board of Education now stands. [The picture to the left] is that of the second Los Angeles High School. In 1917, it moved again to its current location on Olympic Blvd., and Rimpau Ave., with 1937 students." -- unknown author.

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6969756)

That sounds perfectly charming CBD. Thx for tying street organs/barrel organs to LA. I'm now wondering when they were outlawed.

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6969676)

I remember seeing this Organ Grinder man Tony Barbuto in Chinatown in the late 1950s. I would give the little monkey a dime and he would put it in his pocket. The monkey wore a red outfit. Cute and strange at the same time.
Earlier in this thread I posted a photo of our family in Chinatown. This is probably when we saw the monkey and at other times. I got the dimes from my father as I rarely had any money on me as a child.

Below is a 1956 article that mentions Los Angeles organ grinders and their little monkeys.
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google books - Rexparker