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harryc Mar 25, 2017 9:09 PM

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SolarWind Apr 11, 2017 5:05 AM

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munchymunch Apr 11, 2017 5:15 AM

Website seems to have been updated...

harryc May 12, 2017 1:47 PM

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F1 Tommy May 12, 2017 2:05 PM

So 1 floor every 35 days??? This one is moving slow. Nice updates.

J_M_Tungsten May 12, 2017 2:19 PM

Second to last shot is really cool, Harry.

ithakas May 12, 2017 2:23 PM

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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy (Post 7803358)
So 1 floor every 35 days??? This one is moving slow. Nice updates.

I've been walking by a couple times a week and it has been moving slow, but it's also a really complex base – you've got an exposed parking ramp on the east side, liner units on the north/south, and liner townhomes zigzagging on the west. Will be worth the wait for the great design, though.

http://legacy.skyscrapercenter.com/c...end-lease2.jpg
The Skyscraper Center

It looks like they're finally on the last floor of the base though, so hopefully it picks up soon!

Siriusly May 12, 2017 6:55 PM

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Originally Posted by woodrow (Post 7741044)
I have become incredibly unrealistic about this project. I want it all built NOW, as designed. I mean I REALLY WANT THEM TO BUILD ALL OF THIS NOW! NOW! As Designed!

I have no intention of living there, and it may not end up as terrific as it looks in renderings, but the team behind this, Ralph Johnson especially, have put together something very special. I just love this project. It is a game changer not just for the south Loop, but the city. And I have irrational exuberance about it.

I wish I shared your enthusiasm but for me this project needs a signature tower, (or two)....This site is too homogeneous and completely underwhelming for a massive riverside development. I'd rather see a supertall or something close to it even if it meant sacrificing some density. The plans for the southern plot on the site is quite pathetic and looks like it belongs far from downtown. A couple 500'ish buildings and a 700'-800'er by the bridge would be ideal and what I'd expect to see for such a prominent location. I can't believe they are wasting so much land with those 3 or 4 floor condos. Hopefully Related brings a modern world class vision to their land south to make up for this bust.

emathias May 12, 2017 10:59 PM

I love this shot because the 311 S Wacker top looks like it could just be some sort of water or gas storage facility instead of the top of a 900+ foot tall tower. Speaking of which, I always forget of just how tall that building is. If it weren't next to the Willis Tower it would completely dominate almost any other corner in the world!

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Originally Posted by teohwp85 (Post 7731380)

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Originally Posted by harryc (Post 7731407)
teohwp85 Thank you for all the shots - this one in particular.

Yes.

left of center May 13, 2017 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by emathias (Post 7803930)
If it weren't next to the Willis Tower it would completely dominate almost any other corner in the world!

This.

Pointing out 311 S Wacker was a guilty pleasure of mine when showing the city to out of town visitors. I'd point out how short it looked when compared to the Sears Tower, and then proclaim that it was only a 50 feet shorter than the tallest building in LA (at the time, US Bank Tower). *Cue the oohs and ahhs*

Wilshire Grande has taken the steam out of this claim as of late, even though the roof height is technically shorter than both 311 and US Bank. Gorgeous building though.

Apologies for going way off topic :)

Le Baron May 13, 2017 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Siriusly (Post 7803723)
I wish I shared your enthusiasm but for me this project needs a signature tower, (or two)....This site is too homogeneous and completely underwhelming for a massive riverside development. I'd rather see a supertall or something close to it even if it meant sacrificing some density. The plans for the southern plot on the site is quite pathetic and looks like it belongs far from downtown. A couple 500'ish buildings and a 700'-800'er by the bridge would be ideal and what I'd expect to see for such a prominent location. I can't believe they are wasting so much land with those 3 or 4 floor condos. Hopefully Related brings a modern world class vision to their land south to make up for this bust.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...12-column.html

SolarWind May 26, 2017 12:27 AM

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Kumdogmillionaire May 29, 2017 4:18 PM

Memorial Day Weekend
 
http://i.imgur.com/zChybWZ.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/WD3NioV.jpg?1

Definitely takes up more space than I thought it would. Also shoutout to thumbs up guy in the backseat of that Dodge

harryc Jun 6, 2017 4:52 PM

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Skipping Work

Kippis Jun 7, 2017 12:52 PM

Thanks for the updates Harry and Solar! Great pictures -- they're really taking their sweet time on this one, eh? I understand the geometry and complexity of the base, but wow...

sentinel Jun 7, 2017 1:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kippis (Post 7827507)
Thanks for the updates Harry and Solar! Great pictures -- they're really taking their sweet time on this one, eh? I understand the geometry and complexity of the base, but wow...

I think that's really what it boils down to. The unique design for the base looks like it requires more attention/non-traditional formwork...not to mention for the tower portion as well, even though those floorplates appear more uniform:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/fl3v...0Elevation.jpg

https://chicago.curbed.com/2016/8/17...und-next-month

marothisu Jun 8, 2017 4:56 AM

I may be in the minority here, but I like how the buildings are supposed to look. Really hoping they don't turn out to be cheap looking when it's all said and done (sadly, it has happened too many times). Could imagine a day though when the riverwalk extends all the way to Chinatown through areas like this.

left of center Jun 9, 2017 10:13 PM

^ I am really interested to see how they address the riverwalk through River City. I would assume some kind of floating deck/bridge set up over the marina entrance.

A single continuous riverwalk from the lake/Navy Pier all the way to Chinatown would be an amazing sight!

LouisVanDerWright Jun 9, 2017 10:30 PM

River city has a gargantuan amount of retail space in massive internal atrium/mall. They should just route river walk traffic through this publicly accessible atrium and watch as it goes from back back offices and random salons to a full on retail mall. That would be awesome if a section of the riverwalk passed through a major retail mall, would add a whole nother dimension to the experience. There's 80,000 SF of retail in that building which could house dozens of shops. The atrium that houses that space is kick ass to boot.

Mr Downtown Jun 10, 2017 2:11 AM

^Problem with River City's internal "street" is how it intrudes on residents' sense of separation from the outside. Goldberg said he based the proportions on the Ile de la Cité, but of course the Ile isn't roofed and enclosed at both ends; doesn't have concrete and glass amplifying every cough and conversation all the way up past people's front door.

I can't see the current condo association just throwing open the doors to be part of the riverwalk. They might yet deconvert to a rental building owned by someone more interested in the retail component, or who would reorient the retail spaces to be accessed from the reconstructed riverwalk corridor.

LouisVanDerWright Jun 10, 2017 3:58 AM

The condo association doesn't own the retail so that's too bad for them. Marc realty has owned it for years and plans to redevelop it. They even tried to deconvert the condos to rentals. River City Mall has never been fully utilized even when it was not condo. The problem has been that it was nowhere near anything for the past three decades. Now that the area is filling in and with potential Riverwalk traffic that's subject to change.

Mr Downtown Jun 10, 2017 1:57 PM

They don't own the retail, but they sure as hell control any new access to it, as well as signage and a raft of other things (my building is similar). They get their assessments regardless of whether any business is even open down there. They won't see any upside to inviting even more strangers (boo, hiss) into the building.

On another tack, has anyone ever found a rendering that shows Riverline's Wells streetscape—or lack thereof? Everything seems to show the project from the river.

Vlajos Jun 10, 2017 6:51 PM

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Originally Posted by marothisu (Post 7828477)
I may be in the minority here, but I like how the buildings are supposed to look. Really hoping they don't turn out to be cheap looking when it's all said and done (sadly, it has happened too many times). Could imagine a day though when the riverwalk extends all the way to Chinatown through areas like this.

I completely agree. I really like the design..

LouisVanDerWright Jun 10, 2017 7:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 7830675)
They don't own the retail, but they sure as hell control any new access to it, as well as signage and a raft of other things (my building is similar). They get their assessments regardless of whether any business is even open down there. They won't see any upside to inviting even more strangers (boo, hiss) into the building.

On another tack, has anyone ever found a rendering that shows Riverline's Wells streetscape—or lack thereof? Everything seems to show the project from the river.

I highly doubt the owners of the retail would have bought it for any reasonable price if they have no signage rights. This isn't Dearborn Park or a new construction condo building. There was retail there before condo owners. I doubt the original condo docs would have taken that right from existing tenants who likely had standard clauses about signage in their leases. Stripping those right even if they weren't necessarily being used would invariably trigger a lawsuit the moment anyone tries to block a sign requested by one of the retail tenants. In any case I have an attorney who is buying some investment units in there for the obvious price appreciation that will result from RC turning from brownfield island into an actual part of the city. I'll look at the condo docs when we get them and let you know if it says anything about the retail.

Randomguy34 Jun 10, 2017 8:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 7830675)
On another tack, has anyone ever found a rendering that shows Riverline's Wells streetscape—or lack thereof? Everything seems to show the project from the river.

For the Ancora building under construction, there looks to be retail along Wells St with no setbacks from the street. The one thing I don't like is how parts of the garage is exposed, but otherwise the Wells St side looks to be alright

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/4Hq1...47/ancora4.jpg
Source: Chicago Curbed

Kumdogmillionaire Jun 10, 2017 11:02 PM

I could see them deciding to sacrifice effort on the Wells street side since the streetscape and feel on the developed part of Wells is so awful

Kngkyle Jun 11, 2017 4:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumdogmillionaire (Post 7830926)
I could see them deciding to sacrifice effort on the Wells street side since the streetscape and feel on the developed part of Wells is so awful

Which makes fixing that all the more important.. not less important.

Kumdogmillionaire Jun 11, 2017 7:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kngkyle (Post 7831247)
Which makes fixing that all the more important.. not less important.

I'm not agreeing with the decision at all, just anticipating that outcome

left of center Jun 11, 2017 8:47 PM

Wells is going to become a very important artery connecting a lot of these new South Loop developments in the near future. It would be wise to develop it in a way that is engaging to pedestrians, so that it doesn't become an auto oriented throughway.

Hopefully the Riverline development doesn't repeat the mistakes of the past by focusing in on itself and putting up a bland, dead facade to its surroundings *cough Dearborn Park *cough*

BrinChi Jun 13, 2017 4:40 AM

Riverline Development from Jackson, Van Buren
 
http://i.imgur.com/hWD6MS7b.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Nb3cbuhb.jpg

harryc Jul 10, 2017 12:58 AM

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Rocket49 Jul 10, 2017 1:13 AM

Pardon my forgetfulness, but which of the 8 towers is currently under construction ?

Mr Downtown Jul 10, 2017 1:51 AM

Ancora, parcel D on the site plan.

Rocket49 Jul 10, 2017 3:09 AM

^^^. Thanks. There is certainly a lot of info to digest about this project.

LouisVanDerWright Jul 10, 2017 3:40 AM

https://i.imgur.com/8a2tWWzh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/R4Wbce2h.jpg

SamInTheLoop Jul 10, 2017 4:17 AM

^ Nice vantage point.

Looks like this one is finally about to move at a faster clip, not that they are on to the tower floorplates.....

qDot Jul 10, 2017 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by left of center (Post 7831399)
Wells is going to become a very important artery connecting a lot of these new South Loop developments in the near future. It would be wise to develop it in a way that is engaging to pedestrians, so that it doesn't become an auto oriented throughway.

Hopefully the Riverline development doesn't repeat the mistakes of the past by focusing in on itself and putting up a bland, dead facade to its surroundings *cough Dearborn Park *cough*

Dearborn was built as a fortress

ithakas Jul 14, 2017 7:36 PM

Taken about an hour ago on my phone:

http://i.imgur.com/agdPaFc.jpg

It looks like they're finishing up the first non-podium floor, so I expect things will start moving much faster in the next week or two.

Has anyone heard anything about them starting the other components of Phase 1 soon – the condo tower and river walk/park?

Mr Downtown Jul 14, 2017 10:22 PM

Architect said Wednesday that, yes, they were finishing the last plinth floor. I expect the residential floors to rise about one a week. First occupancy is set for April 2018, and parts of the riverwalk will open shortly thereafter.

He said they were in permitting now for the next building, a condo tower south of River City, but I didn't clarify exactly which sub-parcel.

the urban politician Jul 14, 2017 10:55 PM

^ In permitting for a condo tower they haven't started sales on?

Glad they are pretty confident!

Randomguy34 Jul 14, 2017 11:11 PM

IIRC, the condo tower that's a part of phase one is Current (Building G)

Skyguy_7 Jul 31, 2017 1:55 PM

I don't recall ever seeing this rendering. - Via Curbed, which has a good rundown today of Chicago's current mega developments.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/DHrl...ine_FS_0.0.jpg

https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/7/26...st-information

SolarWind Aug 3, 2017 3:44 AM

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ithakas Aug 8, 2017 7:15 PM

Yesterday

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hammersklavier Aug 28, 2017 6:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 7865755)
Architect said Wednesday that, yes, they were finishing the last plinth floor. I expect the residential floors to rise about one a week. First occupancy is set for April 2018, and parts of the riverwalk will open shortly thereafter.

He said they were in permitting now for the next building, a condo tower south of River City, but I didn't clarify exactly which sub-parcel.

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Originally Posted by Randomguy34 (Post 7865801)
IIRC, the condo tower that's a part of phase one is Current (Building G)

That would put it at the corner of Wells and Taylor? :???:
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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 7588233)
Here's what's in the PD. I expect the building footprints and other details will be refined substantially in the decades to come.

http://i.imgur.com/mJkF5cG.png

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 7588292)


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