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Nite Jul 15, 2022 12:48 AM

Toronto will soon have the best transit system in the Americas.

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Cirrus Jul 28, 2022 10:50 PM

Tempe streetcar moved to complete.

The LA regional connector is co-listed with the Crenshaw extension.

ssiguy Jul 31, 2022 4:53 AM

Toronto will NOT have the best transit system in the Americas even after all these expansions, not even close.
NY is still light years ahead of Toronto in subway. Sao Paulo has a far superior subway and especially commuter/suburban rail system to Toronto as well. Mexico City and Santiago are also a cut above Toronto although at least in those regards Toronto is in the same category along with Montreal, SF/BA, Washington, Buenos Aires, and Chicago.

mhays Aug 19, 2022 4:55 PM

Seattle's UC light rail expansions under ST2 are hitting some delays...now looking at 2024 and 2025 openings. Here's a good summary: https://www.theurbanist.org/2022/08/...-link-to-2025/

This is separate from the ST3 package including the $14b West Seattle to Ballard Link Extension that involves another tunnel through Downtown...

TWAK Aug 19, 2022 6:47 PM

SMART to Windsor is still suspended pending a lawsuit.

tdawg Sep 15, 2022 11:18 AM

The current Toronto expansion is impressive but the system will still pale in comparison to cities such as NYC and Mexico City. it may be more unified but the MTA, LIRR and MetroNorth give us the option of surfing in the Rockaways, stepping off onto the Appalachian Trail or the vineyards of the North Fork on the eastern end of Long Island, over 100 miles from Midtown. The LIRR and MetroNorth each are roughly twice the size of GO and our system runs 24/7.

Innsertnamehere Sep 16, 2022 12:19 PM

It’s almost like a city 3x the size should have a better transit network!

I mean Toronto’s commuter rail network lets you view Niagara Falls, access the Niagara Escarpment, gets you to the foot of cottage country, connects you to southern Ontario, etc.

They are physically very different cities too. NYC’s network is obviously much larger because it’s a much larger city, but both have very different built forms, travel patterns, etc.

Torontos systems benefit over American systems is its maintenance standards - most American systems have huge aging issues which result in slow zones, crumbling infrastructure, poor frequencies, etc. Toronto while doing this expansion is also pouring billions into improving the existing network.

Nouvellecosse Sep 16, 2022 2:15 PM

Also, the important thing isn't just the route length but also the service level and quality. The planned upgrades to GO are set to increase the frequency to the level that large parts will basically be a second rapid transit system. So the same way it doesn't make sense to suggest the NYC subway pales in comparison to LIRR and Metro North because of having a shorter route length, it also doesn't make sense to claim the same about the future GO expansion which won't pale in comparison to anything in NA.

Nite Sep 26, 2022 8:02 AM

Canada Transit Projects
Under Construction:
  • Edmonton - Valley Line Southeast (ETS) - 12 Stations - 13km - 2023
  • Ottawa - Trillium Line Stage 2 South (OC Transpo) - 8 Stations - 16km - 2023
  • Toronto - Line 5 Eglinton / Crosstown LRT (TTC) - 25 Stations - 19km - 2023
  • Toronto - Line 6 Finch West / Finch LRT (TTC) - 18 Stations - 11km - 2023
  • Montreal - Réseau Express Métropolitain (CDPQi) - 26 Stations - 67km - 2024
  • Mississauga - Hurontario LRT (Metrolinx) - 19 Stations - 18km - 2024
  • Ottawa - Confederation Line Stage 2 East (OC Transpo) - 5 Stations - 12km - 2024
  • Edmonton - Metro Line Northwest (ETS) - 9 Stations - 11km - 2024/2025
  • Ottawa - Confederation Line Stage 2 West (OC Transpo) - 11 Stations - 15km - 2025
  • Vancouver - Millennium Line / Broadway Subway Phase 1 (TransLink) - 6 Stations - 5.7km - 2025
  • Edmonton - Valley Line West (ETS) - 16 Stations - 14km - 2025/2026
  • Calgary - Green Line Stage 1 (CT) - 15 Stations - 20km - 2027
  • Montreal - Blue Line Extension (STM) - 5 Stations - 5.8km - 2029
  • Toronto - Line 2 Bloor-Danforth / Scarborough Extension - 3 Stations - 7.8km - 2029/2030
  • Toronto - Ontario Line (Metrolinx) - 15 Stations - 15.5km - 2030
  • Toronto - Line 5 Eglinton / West Extension (TTC) - 7 Stations - 9.2km - 2030/2031

Planned:
  • Hamilton - Hamilton LRT (Metrolinx) - 17 Stations - 14km - Start 2023
  • Calgary - Green Line Stage 2 North (CT) - 9 Stations - 15km - Start 2023
  • Calgary - Green Line Stage 3 Southeast (CT) - 5 Stations - 5km - Start 2024
  • Vancouver - Expo Line / Surrey Langley Line Phase 1 (TransLink) - 8 Stations - 16km - Start 2024
  • Toronto - Line 1 Yonge-University / Yonge North Subway Extension (TTC) - 6 Stations - 7.4km - Start 2025+
  • Ottawa - Confederation Line Stage 3 Kanata (OC Transpo) - 8 Stations - 11km - Start 2025+
  • Ottawa - Confederation Line Stage 3 Barrhaven (OC Transpo) - 7 Stations - 10km - Start 2025+
  • Gatineau - Tramway Hull-Aylmer (STO) - 18 Stations - 26km - Start 2025+
  • Kitchener-Waterloo - ION Phase 2 (Grand River Transit) - 8 Stations - 18km - Start 2025+
  • Quebec City - Réseau Express de la Capitale Tramway (RTC) - 24 Stations - 19.3km - Start 2025+
  • Edmonton - Capital Line South (ETS) - 2 Stations - 4.5km - 2025+
  • Edmonton - Capital Line Northeast (ETS) - 1 Station - 2.9km - 2025+
  • Montreal - Réseau Express Métropolitain de l'Est (CDPQi) - 23 Stations - 32km - 2025+
  • Longueuil - LEEO (RTL) - 14 Stations - ??km - Start 2025+

Completed:
  • Edmonton - Metro Line (ETS) - 3 Stations - 3.3km - Opened September 6, 2015
  • Vancouver - Evergreen Line (TransLink) - 6 Stations - 11km - Opened December 2, 2016
  • Toronto - Line 1 Yonge-University / Vaughan Extension (TTC) - 6 Stations - 8.6km - Opened December 27, 2017
  • Kitchener-Waterloo - ION Phase 1 (Grand River Transit) - 16 Stations - 19km - Opened June 21, 2019
  • Ottawa - Confederation Line (OC Transpo) - 13 Stations - 12.5km - Opened September 14, 2019

List from https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...16629&page=143

Innsertnamehere Oct 6, 2022 3:31 PM

https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/1...ion-go-station

GO Transit extension is starting construction in suburban Hamilton. GO Technically operates on the line here with one daily train right now, but does not stop between Hamilton and St. Catherine's and only operates 1 train a day in each direction, so I would consider this an effective extension of service. Will extend all-day 30 minute frequency service from downtown Hamilton to Centennial Parkway in the east end.

Toronto GO Hamilton East extension - 5 miles (9 km)

The other two GO extensions listed on Page 1 are also complete. Bloomington GO opened last year, and Hamilton received regular off-peak service last year as well.

LAsam Oct 6, 2022 9:26 PM

6.5 miles of LA Crenshaw Line's 8.5 total miles is scheduled to open tomorrow, October 7th. The remaining 2 miles should open up sometime in second half 2023. Not sure how you want to reflect that in the summary!

Cirrus Oct 11, 2022 7:01 PM

Moved 6 miles of the LA Crenshaw line to complete. 2 miles remain u/c.

Moved the GO Bloomington & Hamilton extensions to complete in 2021, and added the 5-mile Hamilton East upgrade to u/c.

202_Cyclist Oct 24, 2022 5:17 PM

The Arrow passenger rail service between Redlands and San Bernardino opened today. This also included extending Metrolink commuter rail to Redlands.

Redlands celebrates completion of Arrow passenger rail line


By Jessica Keating
Redlands Daily Facts
Oct. 21, 2022

https://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/w...-WP.jpg?w=1080
Attendees wait to enter a new train during the inaugural ceremony for the new Arrow passenger rail service in Redlands on Friday, Oct. 21, 2022. Arrow train service between San Bernardino and Redlands will begin on Monday. (Photo by Watchara Phomicinda, The Press-Enterprise/SCNG)

"Train aficionados, transportation officials and elected leaders gathered Friday, Oct. 21, to celebrate the return of passenger rail service to Redlands.

“Anyone who knows Redlands, knows history is everything in this town,” said Evan Sanford, executive director of the Redlands Chamber of Commerce, after recapping the city’s early ties to the Santa Fe Railway.

Passenger service on that original rail line ended in the late 1930s, more than a lifetime ago for nearly all those gathered Friday outside the historic Santa Fe train depot, which has stood for generations as a reminder of the city’s connection to rail..."

https://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/2...ger-rail-line/

craigs Oct 24, 2022 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 202_Cyclist (Post 9770157)
The Arrow passenger rail service between Redlands and San Bernardino opened today. This also included extending Metrolink commuter rail to Redlands.

Redlands celebrates completion of Arrow passenger rail line


By Jessica Keating
Redlands Daily Facts
Oct. 21, 2022

https://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/w...-WP.jpg?w=1080
Attendees wait to enter a new train during the inaugural ceremony for the new Arrow passenger rail service in Redlands on Friday, Oct. 21, 2022. Arrow train service between San Bernardino and Redlands will begin on Monday. (Photo by Watchara Phomicinda, The Press-Enterprise/SCNG)

"Train aficionados, transportation officials and elected leaders gathered Friday, Oct. 21, to celebrate the return of passenger rail service to Redlands.

“Anyone who knows Redlands, knows history is everything in this town,” said Evan Sanford, executive director of the Redlands Chamber of Commerce, after recapping the city’s early ties to the Santa Fe Railway.

Passenger service on that original rail line ended in the late 1930s, more than a lifetime ago for nearly all those gathered Friday outside the historic Santa Fe train depot, which has stood for generations as a reminder of the city’s connection to rail..."

https://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/2...ger-rail-line/

This also marks a nine mile extension of greater LA's Metrolink commuter rail.

https://la.streetsblog.org/wp-conten...temmap2022.jpg

LAsam Oct 24, 2022 10:37 PM

^It's very easy when you live and work with the confines of the LA Metro system to be completely unaware of how extensive Metrolink is. When taken in combination with Metro, it makes our system look pretty robust.

craigs Oct 24, 2022 10:54 PM

Also, Metro says that its ridership is up to 70% of 2019 ridership, which is much better than many big transit agencies nationwide.

DirectionNorth Oct 25, 2022 1:27 AM

My suggested updates to the list:

East Side Access: complete
SEPTA Wawa extension: complete
San Bernardino Redlands Line: complete

Ottawa's Stage 2 is actually three projects: Confederation Line East, Confederation Line West, and Trillium Line South (the last one is a commuter rail project). I'd personally split those projects up.

Phase III of the Purple Line Extension in Los Angeles is U/C.

Re: Metrolink, the ridership (and frequencies) on that system are abysmal. Metrolink reflects the worst tendencies towards building a system that is lots of km long, rather than a system that is useable with good station access, high frequencies, etc. The latest ridership data from APTA shows just 14,300 daily riders - an abysmal number. :2cents:

202_Cyclist Oct 25, 2022 1:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAsam (Post 9770484)
^It's very easy when you live and work with the confines of the LA Metro system to be completely unaware of how extensive Metrolink is. When taken in combination with Metro, it makes our system look pretty robust.

The reach of Metrolink is really vast. I was looking and it is more than 150 miles from Lancaster to Oceanside and approximately 130 miles from Redlands to Ventura. I am sure ridership could be greater but this is an expansive system.

lrt's friend Oct 25, 2022 1:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirectionNorth (Post 9770683)
My suggested updates to the list:

East Side Access: complete
SEPTA Wawa extension: complete
San Bernardino Redlands Line: complete

Ottawa's Stage 2 is actually three projects: Confederation Line East, Confederation Line West, and Trillium Line South (the last one is a commuter rail project). I'd personally split those projects up.

Phase III of the Purple Line Extension in Los Angeles is U/C.

Re: Metrolink, the ridership (and frequencies) on that system are abysmal. Metrolink reflects the worst tendencies towards building a system that is lots of km long, rather than a system that is useable with good station access, high frequencies, etc. The latest ridership data from APTA shows just 14,300 daily riders - an abysmal number. :2cents:

With 12 minute frequency all day, seven days a week, the Trillium Line South really isn't commuter rail in the normal sense. It is just using commuter rail style Flirt trains.

JDRCRASH Oct 26, 2022 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAsam (Post 9770484)
^It's very easy when you live and work with the confines of the LA Metro system to be completely unaware of how extensive Metrolink is. When taken in combination with Metro, it makes our system look pretty robust.

If only it went deeper into West and South LA. I’d love to see the ROW shared by the Blue Line used to run Metrolink extensions to Torrance and/or somewhere on the outskirts of Manhattan Beach or El Segundo.

Although if it’s true WSAB is gonna have it’s own dedicated two tracks, that idea goes out the window. And forget about LRT service branching off the blue line…


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