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One of the earliest photographs of Chinatown that I've come across. Notice the orange groves as well.
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4...natownandg.jpg found on ebay some time ago. http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4...natownandg.jpg |
another "then and now" of the Pasadena Freeway
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I would have given credit had I known the source of these images.
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That's fine SierraMadre....just go back to your post and click on the edit button (lower right) and paste in this link.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...4618.htmlstory I appreciate everything that you have contributed to the thread. It's people like you that keep this wonderful forum alive. Long live 'noirish Los Angeles'!! |
Doing deep research for Arcadia Press book and 2010 Lavender Los Angeles exhibit we deduced that the transgender/hustler bar John Rechy named in City Of Night as the 1-2-3 (on Spring St nr 3rd) wouldve been the 326 - Rechy confirmed that he'd changed its name (as well as a bar on Santa Monica's Oceanwalk) purely for the safety of their clientele and proprietors- Therefore we had one of the city's premier he-man establishments morphing into a verry different scene a decade or so after Jim Jeffries closed. On LAPL photo database search for the "men in drag" images for another nearby drag club. Happy LGBT Month !
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So you're saying Jim Jeffries' Gentlemen's Club eventually became a gay bar?
Stranger things have happened...especially in Los Angeles. It would be great to hear from John Rechy directly. Is that possible? __________ |
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Please do not take credit for content that you did not create. Some may think that giving credit is a trivial or even a laughing matter, but it's not. Unfortunately, there do seem to be a lot of people on this thread who are either ignorant of or are simply ignoring Skyscraperpage.com's simply-stated rules for third-party content attribution. Here they are again for those who apparently need a reminder. ========== https://otters.net/img/lanoir/skyscr...forumrules.jpg ========== I'm not the "credit police," but I do firmly believe in giving credit where credit is due insofar as it is possible. The fact is that a significant majority of this thread consists of content that the posters themselves did not create, yet a few posters here seem to think that giving proper credit according to this website's rules is not worth bothering with. You should bother, though, because the owners of Skyscraperpage.com could lock or even delete this whole thread at any time for any single instance of copyright abuse, and that would be the end of it. When it comes down to it, it's your choice whether or not to credit your posts properly. All I'm saying is that I believe we should all follow the rules here to the best of our ability. If you really can't find the ultimate source for a picture, though, that's entirely cool and forgivable – I've posted unattributed images, myself, from time to time – but I think it's important that we should at least TRY to provide the best recent source information that we can here. Historical accuracy demands no less, doesn't it? -Scott |
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i am with scott on this one big time! the moderators of the skyscraperpage forums, have prevoulsy posted in this thread about the importance of not only giving credit to the original source, but also providing a link to the original source web page. even if you upload an image to your photo account, you still need to give the original source location with a link of where the photograph originally came from. they make it clear, that if you don't know, then don't post. the consequences that scott mentioned are very real, and it would be a travesty, if this incredible source of los angeles history which is for the betterment of everybody got locked down. we wouldn't want this to happen........... Culver City police enforcing the law of tha land 1950 http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics40/00039598.jpg Source: LAPL |
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Butcha ARE Scott, ya ARE the credit police. At least that is the net effect. And while everything you say and so helpfully spell out is true--that the thread could be shut down etc--it seems to me that one equally sure way to accomplish this is to be doctrinaire with newcomers. It took me quite awhile to figure out how to add credit lines--it's not like there's a test of one's computer skills to sign up for the site. Our esteemed founder, Ethereal, handled Sierra Madre's innocent omission exactly as it should have been. Thank you, e_r, SM, Sebisebster--and Scott--for all your terrific contributions. Let's lighten up! http://jpg1.lapl.org/spnb01/00007269.jpgLAPL Now about those gay bars.... |
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So, let me see if I have this right:
If I have an image that I am uncertain of it's original photographer-publsher, etc., then don't post it. Right? That's what I'm hearing. I have several boxes of negatives and prints from 40-50 years old, or more. I have collected them over the years a purchased them from garage sales of people have given them to me. They are not magazines, newspapers or books. Many are just discarded family photos which just happen to have been taken in Los Angeles. They are simply aging photographs that I have scanned. Maybe photographed by a housewife, maybe by a professional photographer. I'll never know. None of us will never know. It's just a photo with no name, no nothing written on it whatsoever. I would never ever not give credit for any posts unless I just didn't know. Look, I'm a retired professional photographer....50 years worth. I get to see my personal images splattered all over the internet everyday without any credit to me. So don't give me any lectures about the decency of "credit where credit is do". I've been here three weeks and have been trying to fit in with all of you seasoned "Noir Fans". So, whats the word on these boxes of photos that have no writing on them? Keep them to myself? Or should I just say...."photographer unknown", or leave them in a box for my cat to sleep on? Can you imagine what history books, biographies, etc. would look like if every single image that had no information on who took the photo were never published? Think about it. |
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http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2640/p1090163y.jpg Photo by me This supposedly is the oldest bathhouse in Los Angeles, established in 1905, corner of 4th and Los Angeles Streets. As far as I know, it's still in business (I've never been to it myself) and is now called the KLYT bathhouse. But it used to known as the Palace Turkish Baths. This is from a 1967 LA phone book: http://www.gaytubs.com/images/palace.jpg gaytubs.com Here it is in the context of the surrounding blocks. I took these photos on 12/31/09. The building under construction on the right is now complete (it's a mixed-use commercial/residential building). http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1153/p1090164fm.jpg Photo by me And for historic context, that mixed-use building pales greatly in comparison to what used to be there--- the Westminster Hotel: http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1...nsterhotel.jpg USC Archive The photo dates to before the opening of the bathhouse--circa 1900, the USC Archive says. So none of those gentlemen in the picture were on their way there. I believe there were a number of bathhouses operating in downtown Los Angeles in the early part of the 20th Century. Of course there were many vice busts that would occur. This is from an 1895 Los Angeles directory: http://www.gaytubs.com/images/la-baths.jpg gaytubs.com |
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sigh.........there have been tons of times, when i found fabulous photographs that i wanted to post...(alot of times on flickr or other third party sites)...however, i have always tried to adhere to the sites rules...(trust me , it's sometimes a pain in the patootie to source every photograph i post)......regardless....this is the home field rules for the playing field we all enjoy............
as draconian as the rules might sound........there are such things as copyright laws...yadda yadda yadda........anyway, my two cents, (again), although Los Angeles Past, might sound like a "Credit Police", his post needs to be taken and understood in that we have already been repremanded previously by this forum's modertor, and yes it is that important! and now i'll get off of my high horse! http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics32/00050500.jpg Source: LAPL |
TO LOS ANGELES PAST (Scott) -----> Understood. I delated my original post in order of terms of credit and copyright respect.
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