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GaylordWilshire Dec 23, 2016 12:50 AM


At a time when propriety required a certain amount of dressing up even just to go to the movies at a downtown theater, ladies were lured to the drive-in with the slogan "Leave Your Girdle at Home."

The Drive-In became the Pico; it was later moved west to become the Olympic. The story is here: http://losangeleshistory.blogspot.co...histories.html

BifRayRock Dec 23, 2016 2:16 AM




If you build it . . . they may come, until the novelty wears thin or everyone gets a TV.



1934 - Drive-In on Pico
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...w.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...0coll2/id/3437




http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...5.jpg~original




We've seen a Green Spray before (Fairfax and San Vicente). http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=22728
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...r.jpg~original http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...0coll2/id/3437




High Fidelity in '34
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...z.jpg~original



Dust free. Guarunteeeed.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...b.jpg~original http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...0coll2/id/3452




Handy Andy. Hope it gets dark soon.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...p.jpg~original



Glorious Black and White.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...3.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...0coll2/id/4188





Who said the best views are from the back seat?
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...3.jpg~original




http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...p.jpg~original


Of course, Will Rogers' sad demise came in 1935.
http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...er-everett.jpghttp://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...er-everett.jpg












ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2016 5:15 AM

We have visited "The Hot Dog Show" previously on NLA, but this 1953 slide is new to the thread. (I just found it on ebay)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/pvzuhd.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sli...YAAOSwiDFYPfub

from the seller:

There were a number of locations for this well-remembered eatery. This one doesn't look like any of the old locations I'm seeing pictures of on Google.
The family was from Long Beach - so it makes sense that this might be the location that was once on Broadway Avenue. It also looks like Broadway to me
...except there's no flower island in the middle of the street any more.

This is a Kodachrome 35mm Slide. On the back of the mount written in green ink: "Flower Island in Middle of Street - Hot Dog Show at Far Right / 1953"
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So which 'Hot Dog Dog' location do you think it is?

To me, it looks like the location at 4300 Riverside Drive (Burbank) that was used three years later in "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers" 1956.


originally posted by Martin_Pal
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/H8qZmx.jpg
Invasion Of The Body Snatchers http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=19627





Perhaps the steak house across the street will give us the definitive answer.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/QJIIVk.jpg
detail

Can anyone read the name of the steak house?
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BifRayRock Dec 23, 2016 5:11 PM





The Whiz Inn and The Onyx Club. Bring ID and an appetite.


Manchester Blvd. Inglewood, undated.

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...e.jpg~originalhttp://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/10789



Onyx Club for Ribs and Cocktails. 2916 W Manchester Blvd.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...5.jpg~original


Citizen's National at 2745 W. Manchester Blvd. http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...k.jpg~original



http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...b.jpg~original

1943
http://assets.bonappetit.com/photos/...-Whiz-Inn1.jpghttp://assets.bonappetit.com/photos/...-Whiz-Inn1.jpg



Thanks for the followup T2. No big poultry fan, so I'll pass.:rolleyes:

VVVVV Interesting Torrance Newspaper ads for "The Buggy Whip" the "Pen and Quill" but they are more likely from 1956. ;)




Contemporary - BYO detergent
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...u.jpg~originalGoogleStreetView







tovangar2 Dec 23, 2016 5:27 PM

Whiz Inn menu & Onyx Club ad
 
:previous:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZX...YlA=w1366-h768
bon appetit

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jg...NTo=w1366-h768
cookbooks


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YT...Znk=w1366-h768
torrance herald 12/30/36

odinthor Dec 23, 2016 5:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7659689)
We have visited "The Hot Dog Show" previously on NLA, but this 1953 slide is new to the thread. (I just found it on ebay)

[...]

Perhaps the steak house across the street will give us the definitive answer.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/QJIIVk.jpg
detail

Can anyone read the name of the steak house?
__

Not me; but it appears that the flowers are dwarf Dahlias, a pretty surprising thing to plant on a traffic island (the heat emanating from the surrounding pavement would not be to their liking).

tovangar2 Dec 23, 2016 5:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 7659988)
Not me; but it appears that the flowers are dwarf Dahlias, a pretty surprising thing to plant on a traffic island (the heat emanating from the surrounding pavement would not be to their liking).

Thx, I mistakenly thought they were mums. That's a century plant at center, right?

odinthor Dec 23, 2016 5:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7659433)
:previous:

It makes more sense the right way around :).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

The brick (?) building at lower mid-right margin has always fascinated me (where "always fascinated" = "borne momentary vague interest for"), as it tends to jut out from its surroundings in wider views with a certain incongruity. Here it is from another angle (dead center):

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...psfpvjcg9b.jpg
odinthor collection

It seems like premises for a warehouse and/or light industry.

odinthor Dec 23, 2016 6:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7660003)
Thx, I mistakenly thought they were mums. That's a century plant at center, right?

Right, the noble Agave americana. I used to grow a lot of Agaves, and think they're way cool; but, because of their spines and their sap (which irritates the skin), they can be challenging to deal with. They're an example of a category I have: "plants I enjoy a lot . . . when they're not my responsibility."

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2016 6:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2
That's a century plant at center, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 7660014)
Right, the noble Agave americana.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/6FRKCa.jpg
http://waterandpower.org

I believe that's a healthy specimen of an Agave americana on the right..........>

So what's the similar plant on the left, Yucca?
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CityBoyDoug Dec 23, 2016 7:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7659689)
We have visited "The Hot Dog Show" previously on NLA, but this 1953 slide is new to the thread. (I just found it on ebay)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/pvzuhd.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sli...YAAOSwiDFYPfub

[SIZE="3"]Could this location be Broadway and Olive St......Long Beach?

HossC Dec 23, 2016 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 7660007)

The brick (?) building at lower mid-right margin has always fascinated me (where "always fascinated" = "borne momentary vague interest for"), as it tends to jut out from its surroundings in wider views with a certain incongruity. Here it is from another angle (dead center):

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...psfpvjcg9b.jpg
odinthor collection

It seems like premises for a warehouse and/or light industry.

Your mystery building appears in this 1927 view from City Hall's tower.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Here's a close-up.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Detail of image above

The building is next to the Hotel La Crosse, and doesn't reach Hill Street, so I think it's the back of the Mason Opera House. Here's part of the 1921 Baist map.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

HossC Dec 23, 2016 8:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7659689)

We have visited "The Hot Dog Show" previously on NLA, but this 1953 slide is new to the thread. (I just found it on ebay)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/pvzuhd.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sli...YAAOSwiDFYPfub

Perhaps the steak house across the street will give us the definitive answer.

Can anyone read the name of the steak house?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7660069)

Could this location be Broadway and Olive St......Long Beach?

The 1955 Long Beach CD lists the Apple Valley Steak House at 733 E Broadway, with The Hot Dog Show at 745 E Broadway. The apartment building behind the steak house is still standing. I think the flowers are in the triangle I've arrowed below. The aerial is from 1953, the same date as the original picture. The end of Olive Avenue south of E Broadway has since become a parking lot, so the former island is now just a flower bed with trees at the side of Alamitos Avenue.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

HossC Dec 23, 2016 8:40 PM

I've decided to take a Christmas break from the Julius Shulman archive, so this will be the last post until the new year. Don't worry - I'll still be checking in to NLA and posting on other topics :).

This is Julius Shulman's "Job 219: Gruen and Krummeck, Horton and Converse (Beverly Hills, Calif.),1948".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

There are four images in the set, two from each side, so I decided to just post two of them. Sadly, there are no views of the interior.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

One of the omitted shots shows the number 9442, so this must be 9442 Wilshire Boulevard, Beverly Hills, which was Horton & Converse Pharmacies' "Store No 4" in the 1956 CD. On the left was Richard Bennett, "Custom Tailoring to Gentlemen since 1886", at 9440 Wilshire Boulevard. On the right was a Pig n Whistle restaurant at 9454 Wilshire Boulevard. This whole block has been replaced, so I haven't bothered with a "now" picture. Horton & Converse is still in business at three nearby locations.

odinthor Dec 23, 2016 9:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7660030)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/6FRKCa.jpg
http://waterandpower.org

I believe that's a healthy specimen of an Agave americana on the right..........>

So what's the similar plant on the left, Yucca?
_

That would be your ever-popular New Zealand Flax, Phormium tenax, or maybe a hybrid with another species of Phormium. They're attractive and useful; but, well, with time, they get to be kind of a nasty clump, the sort one feels that there are rodents and other such critters hiding in. Modern varieties are of all sorts of colors, variegations, and sizes. I was at the check-out counter buying a teeny dwarf brown-bronze colored one once upon a time, and the person behind me asked, seriously, "Why are you buying a dead plant?" (I answered, "For a friend," which ended the conversation.)

odinthor Dec 23, 2016 9:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7660085)
Your mystery building appears in this 1927 view from City Hall's tower.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Here's a close-up.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Detail of image above

The building is next to the Hotel La Crosse, and doesn't reach Hill Street, so I think it's the back of the Mason Opera House. Here's part of the 1921 Baist map.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

Splendid, HossC--thanks. The building is one of those things such that, as soon as it enters one's consciousness, you can't look at a pic of the area without your eyes going straight to it (or its anticipated location).

tovangar2 Dec 23, 2016 9:29 PM

Mason Opera House
 
One more of the rear of the Mason Opera House odinthor. This one a 1955 Arnold Hylen shot. Taken looking SE over the empty site of the Highland Villa, w/ the close-to-complete Law Library on the left. LAPD HQ at center. Previously posted by gsjansen, but the image has disappeared:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gA...l9I=w1366-h768
downtownlatheaters

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pD...N1Q=w1366-h768
downtownlatheaters

tovangar2 Dec 23, 2016 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7660144)
This is Julius Shulman's "Job 219: Gruen and Krummeck, Horton and Converse (Beverly Hills, Calif.),1948".

The prolific Gruen and Krummeck also did the Milliron's at Sepulveda and La Tijera (1949), no stranger to the thread, with its free-standing display windows and "space-age" ramp to the rooftop parking. These Shulman images are from HossC. His is one of many NLA posts on the building (many more images, including current ones, at the link):

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7210554)

Julius Shulman visited Milliron's in the year it opened. This is his "Job 434: Gruen and Krummeck, Milliron's (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1949". I'll start with this view of the front on a wet night in Westchester.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

The entrance to the roof-top parking lot looked fabulous at night.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original


Victor Gruen ("father of the shopping mall") and Elsie Krummeck have an interesting story, told here and here




.

GaylordWilshire Dec 23, 2016 10:59 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Lk...366-h768-rw-no


Re Victor Gruen--out today on KCET's Lost LA: https://www.kcet.org/shows/lost-la/t...e-to-regret-it

ethereal_reality Dec 23, 2016 11:57 PM

re: The Hot Dog Show 1953 kodachrome slide.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7660069)
Could this location be Broadway and Olive St......Long Beach?

Originally posted by HossC
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/AOzESH.jpg

:previous:Hoss, I couldn't help but notice the building that appears to have a dome. (circle in blue above..and below)


it's still there...
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/uET4Wz.jpg
google_earth



Here's a closer look.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/Cjivc9.jpg
google_earth

Well, it isn't quite a 'dome', but it's still intriguing.



street view
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/BZkFCm.jpg
gsv

The place is Roscoe's Chicken & Waffles.



what style of architecture is this? I can't put my finger on it.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/jffXms.jpg
gsv



here's a glimpse of the sign
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/XCwR1o.jpg
gsv

I'm a bit confused by the sign.

If you look closely there's a smaller 'Club West' beneath the Roscoe's sign at top (and there's also a list of performers/acts)

So is Roscoe's Chicken 'n Waffles half restaurant....half jazz club (?)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/82U1ga.jpg





I think this might be the 'rotunda' area under the pointed 'turret/dome'.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/r2kYZL.jpg
yelp
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