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MayorOfChicago Nov 17, 2017 7:04 PM

I was lurking around it this morning, man that thing is deep! No deeper than the garage it abuts though, so that goes down at least this far. Again makes me wonder if they're going to tear into the wall of the existing garage and expand it out into this void with more underground parking that will tie into the already completed entrance/exit ramp in the middle of the site as a whole.

I saw them pulling old trees and logs out of the clay, looked round and caked in mud like they've probably been down there since they fell ages ago - not cut logs like they're laying down to move the heavy machinery. Those would be some old logs to be buried this deep.

The Best Forumer Nov 17, 2017 7:55 PM

steady progress...

SolarWind Nov 18, 2017 9:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 7989370)
solar, can i repost this picture every time someone whines about chicago not putting more of its parking underground?

Yes, but don't forget to cite the source. I’ve heard that the moderators can be real hard-asses about that sort of thing. ;)

10023 Nov 18, 2017 2:55 PM

Is Chicago’s clay really that much harder or more expensive to dig in than elsewhere?

They build underground parking in reclaimed land in coastal cities. How is that any easier?

The city should still start requiring that parking is underground. If that means less development, so be it. Above ground parking destroys neighborhoods.

aaron38 Nov 18, 2017 3:11 PM

If the city was smart, it would require underground parking instead of the horribly corrupt affordable housing contributions. And give a FAR bonus.

HomrQT Nov 18, 2017 4:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnk (Post 7989403)
My gradfather's first job when he moved from the old country was digging old freight tunnels by hand digging out that Chicago clay. He was a strong man but it nearly killed him. He was worked so hard he said he literally used to sweat blood sometimes.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...nstruction.jpg
Tunnel under construction in 1902. The freshly cut clay ahead of the concrete work shows clear knife marks.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...tionCloser.jpg
Trackwork in a typical grand union where two tunnels intersected, photographed before 1906.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tunnel_Company

That's awesome history to know. The men that built this country were hard men for sure. :cheers:

KWillChicago Nov 18, 2017 4:56 PM

How many parking spots were granted for the east building? And looking at the pictures it would be silly to not connect this to the original garage with that blank wall there. Being the same developers and im sure same parking company. Unless it would cause some massive structural issues.

HomrQT Nov 18, 2017 4:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 7990180)
Is Chicago’s clay really that much harder or more expensive to dig in than elsewhere?

They build underground parking in reclaimed land in coastal cities. How is that any easier?

The city should still start requiring that parking is underground. If that means less development, so be it. Above ground parking destroys neighborhoods.

I agree, quality > quantity for us at this point with construction.

harryc Nov 20, 2017 12:53 AM

Nov 17



Old Pilings - well preserved in the anaerobic clay

Nov 13

Waiting to be installed - the next set of braces - The square frames are being used to brace the existing garage wall.

Nov 13



Not the chains used in lifting it out of the pit.


Strain gauges - must be strain gauges.



harryc Nov 23, 2017 6:46 PM

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CastleScott Nov 23, 2017 9:48 PM

^ Wow that's a hella large hole-underground parking? Great pics (thanks harryc and Happy Thanksgiving!) and a great project along the river.

donnie Nov 23, 2017 10:33 PM

Wonder how much pressure that wall is holding back!

....simply amazing, simply Chicago....

LouisVanDerWright Nov 23, 2017 10:47 PM

Why don't they build below grade parking in Chicago??? This looks so easy!

harryc Dec 3, 2017 4:34 AM

Nov 28

A bit muddy.


Dec 1








Kenmore Dec 3, 2017 1:02 PM

engineering on these riverfront projects is just the best to see, nice shots.

KWillChicago Dec 4, 2017 1:49 PM

The engineering of this project is truley amazing. Thanks for the pictures harry! I hope we get more with your pup soon. So cute.

Northwest Dec 5, 2017 6:59 PM

What an impressive dig. Its wonderful they spent the money to bury the parking on this site, its just too important and visible of a place to stick an ugly podium.
I'm surprised to see it go so deep with sheet pilings. Must be possible with those heavy reinforcements, I dont remember the sheet piles being this long when they drove them in.
I remember reading that One Chicago Square will have such deep parking they cant even use sheet piles. They are going with the more expensive secant wall on that site.

BVictor1 Dec 7, 2017 12:43 PM

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KWillChicago Dec 7, 2017 4:52 PM

So many support beams. I am so confused. Does anyone have a bluprint/diagram of what the the lower levels are going to look like?

donnie Dec 7, 2017 5:20 PM

I would imagine those are temporary!

On a side note what's the hold up on OCS? I take it the alderman didn't get a big enough cut wich is why he's the only one holding this project from entering the construction phase...

BVictor1 Dec 7, 2017 8:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnie (Post 8011583)
I would imagine those are temporary!

On a side note what's the hold up on OCS? I take it the alderman didn't get a big enough cut wich is why he's the only one holding this project from entering the construction phase...

It can't enter construction phase before approval phase. What's happening now is a formality to study traffic and obtain more feedback.

Relax!

Fvn Dec 7, 2017 9:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWillChicago (Post 8011553)
So many support beams. I am so confused. Does anyone have a bluprint/diagram of what the the lower levels are going to look like?

I think what they do is build up the parking level to below the beams and then take the beams out and build the next floor. the bracing is all temporary due to how the underground portion holds its self from falling in due to the floors taking up that stress

if you go back to january 2017 on the transbay block 5 webcam in San Francisco you can see more or less how its done (very similar bracing situation on that project)

https://app.oxblue.com/open/clarkconstruction/block5

donnie Dec 8, 2017 7:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 8011830)
It can't enter construction phase before approval phase. What's happening now is a formality to study traffic and obtain more feedback.

Relax!

What part exactly did you not understand?

:slob:

harryc Dec 8, 2017 11:28 AM

Dec 6







The gravel fill from the hole - protects the rebar that is sticking up out of the piling. The top of the rebar will be at or near the top of the foundation mat.


The pink loops are the rebar sticking out of the piling.



vexxed82 Dec 12, 2017 1:29 AM

Snapped a few shots on Sunday. My first visit to the project actually. Impressively large hole. Need to get back one day when they're working to add human scale. Definitely want to be around for the mat pour. Forum meet-up??

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQxxIqDUEAAtKri.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQxxIpaUQAAh_1f.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQxxItnV4AEK8aK.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQxxIpaUQAYTxaa.jpg

KWillChicago Dec 12, 2017 2:51 PM

I'm in nick. Just give me a date and time. Im still in the burbs but if i drive down that would give me a chance to walk over and see vista again as well.

harryc Dec 12, 2017 3:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWillChicago (Post 8016248)
I'm in nick. Just give me a date and time. Im still in the burbs but if i drive down that would give me a chance to walk over and see vista again as well.

Wolf Point - 325 Hubbard - Reanelle - Apple - 465 Park - Vista, nice little stroll.

maru2501 Dec 13, 2017 6:44 PM

Renelle kind of going up overnight at this point. Amazing how quick when you don't have to do a foundation of any kind

harryc Dec 20, 2017 3:32 AM

Dec 19





Sleeper in the works ? (note the foundation poking up at the back).


Another foundation pile being un-graveled.


Dec 15

Old wooden pilings - the anaerobic clay preserves the wood very well.


The red wires go to strain gauges on the crossbeams.

SolarWind Dec 21, 2017 5:16 AM

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left of center Dec 21, 2017 5:32 AM

Still can't wrap my head around how much better the Apparel Center looks with that new paint job. I think a lot of it is me not being used to seeing it in any color other than pukey-beige-mustard.

Great pics as always, Solar!

donnie Dec 21, 2017 6:32 AM

It's like looking at a new building with that paint job!

Fantastic.....

bgsrand Dec 21, 2017 2:31 PM

Why are huge holes in the ground so fricking cool, love this project.

the urban politician Dec 21, 2017 2:33 PM

The Holiday Inn repaint was a good aesthetic move, IMO

F1 Tommy Dec 21, 2017 3:20 PM

Not sure if it looks better, just different. Atleast they took down the partly hidden Sun Times sign.

trvlr70 Dec 21, 2017 3:30 PM

I would have loved it if it had been painted a super bright white.

Chi-Sky21 Dec 21, 2017 4:32 PM

Are the going to repaint or reclad the base too? Because it really clashes in a bad way right now. Not sure painting those bricks would end up looking that good either.....

KWillChicago Dec 21, 2017 5:13 PM

Are they keeping the temporary bridge up for the south tower as well? I just dont see how else they will get equipment and supplies in and out of that space, except through the circle drive. That water has got to be way to shallow for a barge crane. That is going to be an engineering jawdrop when it happens.

donnie Dec 21, 2017 8:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWillChicago (Post 8026075)
Are they keeping the temporary bridge up for the south tower as well? I just dont see how else they will get equipment and supplies in and out of that space, except through the circle drive. That water has got to be way to shallow for a barge crane. That is going to be an engineering jawdrop when it happens.

Get an early start on the riverwalk?:runaway:

Fvn Dec 21, 2017 8:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWillChicago (Post 8026075)
Are they keeping the temporary bridge up for the south tower as well? I just dont see how else they will get equipment and supplies in and out of that space, except through the circle drive. That water has got to be way to shallow for a barge crane. That is going to be an engineering jawdrop when it happens.

Maybe, however keep in mind WPE is set back from the river and a plaza will go between the river and the tower so they might just not finish the plaza until WPS is complete and use the plaza for staging/getting equipment in and out.

From the renderings you can see that WPE will be more or less lined up with the parking structure for WPW leaving a decent amount of space to get in and out.

jc5680 Dec 22, 2017 2:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 8025841)
The Holiday Inn repaint was a good aesthetic move, IMO

They gray currently up looks very bad. (Solar’s photo makes it look OK, but it looks quite different in person) I am still holding out that this is just a primer. Of the test swatches they painted this was easily the worst one for the building. The dark brown that was similar to the base or one of the lighter options would have been better.

Tonally, the tower doesn’t have enough contrast with the base anymore so there is a weird visual tension that wasn’t there before. Even worse, even though the building is wasn’t great, the light beige would have been a great backdrop for the glassy gray/blue buildings in front. The color contrast would have helped make the foreground buildings stand out more. Now it will look like a muddy dark mess.

harryc Dec 23, 2017 3:20 PM

Dec 22



Found where they buried the foundation piers.


A pair of spread footing piers poke their tentacled heads above the clay. Ready for the long sleep(er).




One of the rock-socketed piers. I believe the blue wires are for O-Cell testing.

harryc Dec 31, 2017 1:06 AM

Dec 27





Dec 29


DrNest Dec 31, 2017 1:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 8025841)
The Holiday Inn repaint was a good aesthetic move, IMO

I have to agree.

Anybody know if they refurbished the inside too? The carpet there has to be the most hideous I've ever seen. And certainly not conducive to walking in a straight line after some drinks.

harryc Jan 4, 2018 2:32 PM

Jan 3




Note the "bricks" put under the bottom rebar so it is positioned correctly at the bottom of the pour




Northwest Jan 4, 2018 6:24 PM

Amazing pictures! :tup:

Construction site of the year award, this is the one I'm watching the most!

MayorOfChicago Jan 5, 2018 2:48 PM

^ I love it, my office is directly across the river on Wacker peering straight down into this thing.

Notyrview Jan 5, 2018 4:18 PM

God you really gotta hand it to these guys for enduring this weather in that pit. Geez. I hope they get overtime or something.

IrishIllini Jan 5, 2018 4:40 PM

Future architectural historians/people of Chicago are fortunate to have people like those in this forum out taking such great pictures.

I also agree that the Holiday Inn touch up is an improvement. The whole building will thankfully be blocked from view soon enough, so no need to stress about the conflicting base and tower.

sage Jan 5, 2018 10:18 PM

So are they done digging down now?


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