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HossC Feb 28, 2014 2:45 PM

A few days ago, I came across the picture below while I was looking for something else. The location wasn't named (other than the description "unidentified building within the Central Manufacturing District"), and I didn't instantly recognize it, but I thought that there were enough clues to work with.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eTerminal1.jpg
USC Digital Library

I've flipped this close-up of the flags to show the text the right way around. It also shows the corner detailing.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Terminal1b.jpg
Detail of picture above.

Zooming in on the background buildings in the center, we can see a cafeteria next to the parked cars, and a familiar domed beuilding behind.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...Terminal1a.jpg
Detail of picture above.

Here's a different view of the domed building in a picture originally posted by Flyingwedge in post #11058. The location is the Los Angeles Union Stock Yards at 4500 Downey Road, which means that the foreground building in the first picture is the Produce Terminal of the Central Manufacturing District (which explains the "CMD Termi..." on the flags). Flyingwedge's post also includes pictures of a couple of other Stock Yard buildings and e_r's original picture of the domed building during construction.

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...herdnodate.jpg
LAPL/Flyingwedge

On this 1948 aerial, the Stock Yards can be seen above Exchange Avenue, while the Produce Terminal and assorted box cars can be seen below it.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rminalMap1.jpg
Historic Aerials

Another USC shot shows the view looking back towards where the first was taken from.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eTerminal2.jpg
USC Digital Library

The picture below is one of a set of three showing the road side of the Produce Terminal in 1929. USC also has a similar set taken at the same location in 1932. The name on the building is the Blue Diamond Produce Co. The address on the trucks is 4219 No. Produce Plaza, Produce Terminal, Central Mfg. Dist.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eTerminal3.jpg
USC Digital Library

After a bit of searching, I found some pictures taken around the time the buildings were demolished in the mid-80s. This must be the eastern end of the main building as the roofline is different.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eTerminal4.jpg
Flickr user emd

Not long to go ...

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eTerminal5.jpg
Flickr user emd

... and gone.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eTerminal6.jpg
Flickr user emd

Here's a current Google aerial view. I've overlaid the outlines of some of the Stock Yard and Produce Terminal buildings.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rminalMap2.jpg
Google Maps

When I applied the overlay, I noticed that the building I've marked "X" lines up perfectly with the outline. Switching to Streetview, it looks like we've got a survivor.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eTerminal7.jpg
GSV

A close-up of some of the details which prove that it was part of the original complex.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eTerminal8.jpg
GSV

GaylordWilshire Feb 28, 2014 8:06 PM

The other Rochester house


Not this one...
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-E...erBH.jpg?gl=USUSCDL


...but rather this one:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_postcard.JPGWikimedia


I could find no vintage shots of the house.... While widely attributed to the great Paul R. Williams, the building permit doesn't have his name on it. It still stands on West 37 Street east of Cimarron, a cul-de-sac now called Rochester Place.


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-P....bmp.jpg?gl=US

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C....bmp.jpg?gl=USGSV

It's now some sort of hotel.


https://i.postimg.cc/mgyss0bP/Roches...son-BP-bmp.jpg


Rochester driving the gang in the recently discussed Mad Mad Mad Mad World....
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lpoeQJxqBC...1600/8ShPO.jpgimdb

HossC Feb 28, 2014 8:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6473572)

From homes.mitula.com:

Description from the owner

We offer you a rich history, an intoxicating experience of the decadence of 'Old Hollywood' and the extravagant luxury of Louis XVI furnishings along with superlative hospitality. We invite you into Eddie 'Rochester' Anderson's colossal legacy.

Our majestic Victorian, Southern mansion was originally owned by the late Eddie "Rochester" Anderson, an American comedian and actor who appeared in over sixty motion pictures. His most famous role was Rochester van Jones, known simply as "Rochester" the valet of Jack Benny on his T.V. show The Jack Benny Program. His career earned him a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Anderson was a great connoisseur. From training his winning race horses to creating lucrative real estate investments, he had the Midas touch for transforming business ventures into unprecedented successes.

Today, the Rochester is owned and managed by his son Eddie "Rochester" Anderson Jr., who continues to follow in his father's monumental footsteps and to welcome people from all over the world with true hospitality.

The Rochester will stop you in your tracks with its classical fa├žade. Its seven elegantly furnished well-lit bedrooms and master suites will glow even in the wee hours of the night. Antique chandeliers, an indoor fireplace and a bar decorate the newly refurbished living room with a Rococo charm.

Whether you're looking for a vacation for you while you tour our beautiful city or for corporate lodgings, or perhaps even for the perfect place to celebrate the holidays or your special occasions, the Rochester's unique facilities can accommodate you. We boast an excellent location for photo shoots, music videos and also for bringing your films to life.


And it can all be yours from only $1500 (or $1000 depending where you look) per night - plus a damage deposit of $2,000!

GaylordWilshire Feb 28, 2014 8:54 PM

:previous:

Thanks for the extra info, Hoss--Victorian? Southern? Well, maybe on the inside? Interesting that the house is still in the family.

Flyingwedge Feb 28, 2014 9:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6473039)

Here's a current Google aerial view. I've overlaid the outlines of some of the Stock Yard and Produce Terminal buildings.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rminalMap2.jpg
Google Maps

When I applied the overlay, I noticed that the building I've marked "X" lines up perfectly with the outline. Switching to Streetview, it looks like we've got a survivor.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eTerminal7.jpg
GSV

Great post! I like the overlay a lot, and good eye spotting that surviving CMD building.

Here's an aerial of a special event at the stock yards dated November 11, 1930, that shows the surviving CMD across from the hexagon building:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../91467/rec/121

A closer view of the hexagon building from a December 1929 photo:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...5/id/996/rec/1

The Union Stock Yards was also the site of a monument to the 1847 Battle of La Mesa as seen in this 1927 photo:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/73927/rec/4

Right boulder; Robert Field Stockton was a gaping a**hole:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...b.jpg~original

Do these plaques survive somewhere today?

P.S. Thanks Joe Gillis for the Mercury statue ID!

CityBoyDoug Mar 1, 2014 12:11 AM

Noirish and macabre....
 
Philip Lovetti suicide...1953..age 28, who committed suicide after shooting father-in-law...rather awkward to say the least.

More information on this scene at link. 16 more photos of the murder suicide. A complicated case of in-laws feudin' and fussin'.


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll44/id/113820

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps3699cd42.jpg
Examiner collection

Albany NY Mar 1, 2014 12:58 AM

What would George Takaei say!
 
[QUOTE=CityBoyDoug;6474032]Philip Lovetti suicide...1953..age 28, who committed suicide after shooting father-in-law...rather awkward to say the least.

More information on this scene at link. 16 more photos of the murder suicide. A complicated case of in-laws feuding and fussin'.


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll44/id/113820

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...90/33/q2ir.jpg

OK, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry!

Seriously, though, the link takes you to some very powerful images. The killer's wife was a beautiful bride....in happier times. Amazing that the police let her trample through the crime scene. Sad, but fascinating. Thanks for posting, CityBoyDoug.

CityBoyDoug Mar 1, 2014 2:14 AM

America circa 1953...
 
Albany NY;6474103....CityBoyDoug;6474032

That's a nice imported handmade carpet...ruined. Lovely nick-nacks around the room and even sitting on the TV. Crochet Armchair Doilies ....what more could you want? :cool::cool::cool:

Here is the scene just outside the living room with the broken glass door. That's the father in-law under the blanket.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps03f1e797.jpg
Examiner

Martin Pal Mar 1, 2014 4:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Gillis (Post 6472890)
Theres a similar statue on the roof of a massive Greenhouse where I grew up

You grew up in a greenhouse? :haha:

Martin Pal Mar 1, 2014 5:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6468351)

Thanks, e_r! Love your additions, especially the one above because the globe tower's usually a photo focal point, so it's seen here in a different light! Almost hiding, in fact.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6468351)
note the 'Barber of Seville'.

Reminds me of an Our Gang short with Alfalfa!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seventh & Spring (Post 6468993)
I believe these are glass blocks. In this case, they appear to be glass block "banks", possibly given out for people to collect donations for the war effort. The chevron design on the labels (which I first thought might be a company logo) may be there to indicate "this side down", or the direction to insert the coins/cash. Similar glass block was used as a facade for the outside of the counter she is posing on. It's visible in other photos of the event.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps73160bfe.jpg
lower left: icircular.wordpress.com / lower right: ebay

Interesting, Seventh & Spring, and welcome to the thread!

Trucker Mar 1, 2014 6:09 AM

Kind of interesting that with many of these murder/suicides they list the address allowing a Google view...makes you wonder if the current owners are aware of the mayhem that occurred in their houses.
Cheers,Pat

GaylordWilshire Mar 1, 2014 9:13 AM

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-E...lrev.jpg?gl=UShttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s...ompl.jpg?gl=US
LAT Dec 19, 1953


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-d....bmp.jpg?gl=USGSV

3745 Temple City Blvd, Rosemead, today, at left, with a surviving bungalow.

HossC Mar 1, 2014 6:19 PM

Flyingwedge, that was a wonderful aerial of the stock yards that you posted yesterday. It really gives an idea of how isolated the area was in the '20s and '30s. USC seems to have a few unidentified pictures of small factories from this era that it attributes to the Central Manufacturing District, and none of them appear to have any close neighbors.

While we're in the area, here's a 1932 picture of the main stock yard building which I don't think we've seen before.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...kYards1932.jpg
USC Digital Library

I also found a 1957 aerial which just catches part of the stock yards and the surviving Produce Terminal building at the far left. In the center of the picture is the Central Manufacturing District Terminal - Flyingwedge covered the CMDT very comprehensively just over a year ago in post #11234.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

USC has the picture below tagged as "Unidentified building in the Central Manufacturing District". It's obviously the back of the CMDT, but there's no indication of the date. I'll email them with the identification.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LACMDTBack.jpg
USC Digital Library

The large white building in the lower left corner of the 1957 aerial is the Federal Cold Storage building. Its distinctive roof design can be seen in the background of the Produce Terminal demolition photos that I posted yesterday. Here it is in 1932.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ldStorage1.jpg
USC Digital Library

And it's still there today.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ldStorage2.jpg
GSV

Trucker Mar 1, 2014 9:22 PM

Wilmington Transfer and Storage in the early 20's
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ithBros3-1.jpg
Personal col.

..and today
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...erbuilding.jpg
Google S.V.

Cheers,Pat

GaylordWilshire Mar 1, 2014 9:32 PM

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4...ompl.jpg?gl=USLAT Aug 21, 1927

Wonder what the Eiffel-Towerish thing in the center might have been meant to be? Some sort of clocktower as there was at the Terminal Market? (See http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=14963.)


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m...ompl.jpg?gl=USlatimes.com Nov 28, 1927


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3....bmp.jpg?gl=US
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m...20PM.jpg?gl=US
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...20PM.jpg?gl=US
LAT Nov 30, 1927


There are several LAT articles through the fall of 1927 about the Produce Terminal, several noting that construction was being rushed.

ethereal_reality Mar 1, 2014 10:24 PM

Excellent overlay of the Stockyards and Central Manufacturing District/Produce Market HossC.

I am in awe that you located this lone survivor.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/850/20q2.jpg
GSV



posted by flyingwedge
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/827/gb4w.jpg

:previous: I have to say I love love love this building. Has anyone come across a photograph of the interior?
What is it anyway...a show barn, like at state fairs?
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I came across this postcard a few weeks ago.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/547/ptca.jpgebay





I located it just this afternoon.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/856/yb7g.jpgGSV



This stretch of Oxford Avenue between Venice Blvd. and Washington Blvd. has some pretty impressive houses from the 1910s/1920s.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/849/wh5f.jpgGSV




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/838/84c5.jpgGSV

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ethereal_reality Mar 1, 2014 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trucker (Post 6474987)
Wilmington Transfer and Storage in the early 20's
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ithBros3-1.jpg
Personal col.

..and today
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...erbuilding.jpg
Google S.V.

Cheers,Pat


:previous: Good find Trucker! Where's the old storage building located? -in the Wilmington area?

...also that's another truck with non-pneumatic solid rubber wheels. (see what i learned this week. ;))
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ethereal_reality Mar 1, 2014 10:45 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/809/361w.jpgebay
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/36/qsuj.jpg




Ivar & Hollywood Blvd. today (same building)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/21/ajwm.jpgGSV

GaylordWilshire Mar 1, 2014 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6474742)
The large white building in the lower left corner of the 1957 aerial is the Federal Cold Storage building. Its distinctive roof design can be seen in the background of the Produce Terminal demolition photos that I posted yesterday. Here it is in 1932.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ldStorage1.jpg
USC Digital Library

And it's still there today.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ldStorage2.jpg
GSV


Also looked into the Federal Cold Storage building, wondering if what appears to be a stylized "S" on the corners meant that it originally housed another firm. Seems it might stand for the Standard Ice Company, a predecessor that was absorbed by Federal...(?)


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-J....bmp.jpg?gl=US
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...20PM.jpg?gl=US
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S...20PM.jpg?gl=US
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4...20PM.jpg?gl=US
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...20PM.jpg?gl=US
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-N....bmp.jpg?gl=US
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S...20PM.jpg?gl=US
LAT Feb 28, 1926


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C....bmp.jpg?gl=US
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W....bmp.jpg?gl=US
LAT Aug 19, 1927

ethereal_reality Mar 1, 2014 11:16 PM

A great vintage matchbook with a classic 'girlie' motif from the 1940s.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/829/q2a9.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/845/2od8.jpg
ebay





I almost fell out of my chair when I discovered it's still there! -and looking like it just stepped out of the 1940s.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/199/7zgi.jpgGSV

I'm going to try and dig up an interior photograph.
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