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HossC Aug 3, 2018 8:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8271143)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8271850)

I'm sure that picture #4 was taken nearby, but haven't found the location yet.

I was right, it's very close. The street in the foreground is N Alma Avenue, and the stubby street just left of center is Thornton Street.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Google Maps

odinthor Aug 3, 2018 9:29 PM

But odinthor! Now that we're visiting S. Mott St., surely you can tell us some human interest tales related to it!

Strange you should ask. Consider, if you will, 1077 S. Mott St.:

https://s26.postimg.cc/j9pn7layh/SMott1077.jpg
LA Times via ProQuest via CSULB Library

And so it is, in the one story, that we return to boxing in Vernon.

If I gauge aright, 1077 S. Mott St. is at present underneath the freeway.

ethereal_reality Aug 3, 2018 10:09 PM

re: 1980s mystery slides #1 #2 #3
 
Thanks for figuring out the loctions Flyingwedge and HossC. -except for #4 :superwhip I see that Hoss just found #4. Ignore the cracking whip guy.

For some reason i find this house particularly interesting.

#2 detail
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/KbNxIa.jpg

today
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/vMT4L0.png
google street view

I like that they've maintained the sculptured shrubbery....they really add to the somewhat occidental feel of the house.



BUT (and it's a big but)...I see that they replaced one of my favorite parts....the curved semi-circular area to the left of the garage with run-of-mill cement blocks.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/bUMk6s.jpg
detail / gsv



BEFORE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/KZjvbt.jpg
DETAIL

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HossC Aug 3, 2018 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8271973)

Thanks for figuring out the loctions Flyingwedge and HossC. --except for #4 :superwhip

We covered them all, e_r. Picture #1 and #2 are the same location - here are the two images merged.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

(I'll enlarge this image when Photobucket lets me post it full size!)

ethereal_reality Aug 3, 2018 11:26 PM

:previous: I didn't see that you found the #4 Hoss. Sorry 'bout that.


re: Heath/Roselle Apartments, 740 Hartford Ave. Los Angeles

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/ToG6o7.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/IIhqUB.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8271246)
The old Roselle Apartments building is still standing at 740 Hartford Avenue, although it's seen better days.

The apartments initially seem to have been called the Heath, but the Roselle name is in the CDs by 1918. The CDs of the 60s call it Hartford House.

The 'Heath' you say? hmmm....now that's interesting. :rubs hands together:

Here's another snapshot taken at 740 Hartford Avenue.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/ObWqmc.jpg
EBAY

As you can see...the caption says the photo was taken "outside the kitchenette". Do you think this is the back of the house or the side of the house?


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ethereal_reality Aug 4, 2018 2:03 AM

Los Angeles - Novelty jail foto 1940s

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/GES7lI.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/Nd6AZW.jpg
EBAY

The second man from the right (the only one not in uniform) looks familiar.


Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/4cYPZD.jpg

I'm thinking an author perhaps...or maybe a journalist, but I can't put my finger on it.

Does he look familiar to anyone else?

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rentatrip Aug 4, 2018 7:07 AM

This old photo can be seen in the "intro" of
the 2003 version of TV Show "DRAGNET"
starring Ed O'Neil , and Ethan Embry
....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vj...Z=w334-h263-no

Flyingwedge Aug 4, 2018 7:10 AM

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8271928)
Consider, if you will, 1077 S. Mott St.:

https://s26.postimg.cc/j9pn7layh/SMott1077.jpg
LA Times via ProQuest via CSULB Library

If I gauge aright, 1077 S. Mott St. is at present underneath the freeway.

I don't know what happened to poor Mme. de Kersauson de Pennendreff's ducks, but her first appearance in an LACD is in
1895. Both of her daughters were married in Los Angeles. By 1920 Mme. de K de P was at 1183 Mirasol. Also, here's her
son Robert, who's mentioned in odinthor's article:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...6.jpg~original

At the Front in a Flivver by William Yorke Stevenson [an American volunteer ambulance driver] (Houghton Mifflin Co., 1917) @ Hathitrust

The same book that has the above photo says Robert was selling cars in California when WWI broke out, and the book
includes a citation (in French) in which he is mentioned. There is a longer bio of Robert here (in English) that includes
a photo of the old family chateau in Brittany. He volunteered to fight for the Boers against the British before joining the
French Army in WWI. He survived his military service and lived to be 92.

Since I've already veered this far off topic, I might as well include a link to the last 6:50 of the WWI drama Paths of Glory
(1957). First, Kirk Douglas tells Adolphe Menjou what he can do with his promotion, then the memorable scene in the cafe.

ethereal_reality Aug 4, 2018 7:27 AM

740 Harvard Ave.
 
I wasn't expecting a close-up of the potatoes. (either the seller just listed it or I missed it earlier)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/5q5794.jpg
EBAY

from their garden I imagine.

rentatrip Aug 4, 2018 8:08 AM

DRAGNET 2003 screen shot
 
Screen shot taken from DRAGNET 2003
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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kw...=w1284-h936-no

HossC Aug 4, 2018 4:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8272042)

Here's another snapshot taken at 740 Hartford Avenue.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/ObWqmc.jpg
EBAY

As you can see...the caption says the photo was taken "outside the kitchenette". Do you think this is the back of the house or the side of the house?

This 1940 aerial (below, left) shows that there was another building behind 740 Hartford Avenue. The building next door (above 740 on the aerial) is numbered 734 & 736, so maybe the second house moved by Mr Wiley in 1913 (originally 712 Hartford, it became 738 Hartford) was placed behind 740. That might explain the number of residents that oldstuff found. Perhaps someone with access to the Sanborn maps can check it out.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0Hartford3.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu/Google Maps

I think that the sweet potato photo was taken between the two buildings, looking toward the lower right corner of the aerial view, and past the house below 740 on the aerial. You'll remember that the house below was missing from the 2009 GSV image I posted. I think it was 742 & 744 Hartford Avenue, which got its demo permit in 1980.

While trying to find info on the building behind 740, I found that it was still there in 1972, but gone by 1980 (according to Historic Aerials). The only building permit in that date range was an alteration/repair permit from October 30, 1979, but it held the answer. There was obviously a fire at 740 which necessitated a repair to a portion of the front building and the demolition of the middle and rear portions. They even included a handy plan. Notice that the fire damage to the front portion was to the roof and 2nd story at the back right. I'm guess that the fire may have damaged the house next door, which was further back from the road. Maybe its demo a year later was connected. Now I look at these plans again, I think that the sweet pototo photo was taken on the steps at the lower-right corner of the rear portion.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
www.ladbs.org

HossC Aug 4, 2018 5:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rentatrip (Post 8272237)

This old photo can be seen in the "intro" of
the 2003 version of TV Show "DRAGNET"
starring Ed O'Neil , and Ethan Embry
....

I don't know why your image didn't show (at least not for me), rentatrip, so without any context to your comment, I initially thought you were referring to the novelty jail photo. Then I found an episode of Dragnet on YouTube and discovered that you meant the double bullet hole photo. It only appears briefly in a montage of images, so well spotted. You can watch the whole episode at the link below.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...gnetIntro1.jpg
YouTube/ABC

Here's the original photo for comparison:

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8266459)

How's this for Noirishness? Photo spotted on Tumblr, with no information other than LAPD 10/10/1942. Any sleuths want to take a crack at figuring out what happened, and where?

https://78.media.tumblr.com/85f6cdf0...ccdo1_1280.jpg


ethereal_reality Aug 5, 2018 2:01 AM

I happened upon this fine photograph a few days ago on Ebay.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/fbLx0F.jpg
EBAY (it's gone now)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/Vv39JF.jpg

"Corner of Soto and Brookyn Ave. Sieera Madre Mts. Pasadena Cal" Meekers-

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ethereal_reality Aug 5, 2018 2:20 AM

and now for a splash of color. (and a dash of mystery)

"1951 LOS ANGELES TUNNEL COAST HIGHWAY CA AMATEUR COLOR SLIDE PHOTO CAR"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/lJLT9D.jpg
EBAY

I wonder if the amateur photographer took this because of the remnants of snow* in the shadow of the mountain (I think that's snow) or because of the remarkable tunnel.

*I've gone back and forth on whether or not that is snow. I decided it was snow when I noticed the dusting on the bricks/stone of the tunnel entrance.
And by living in the midwest I know that snow will last two or three days longer if it's in continual shadow (or even longer if it's real cold!)

Does anyone know which tunnel this is?

...and I'm curious, how many think this is snow?

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Handsome Stranger Aug 5, 2018 3:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8272649)
Does anyone know which tunnel this is?

Hmm...it looks a lot like the Malibu Canyon tunnel where the notorious Pink Lady appeared in 1966.

http://pinkladyofmalibu.com/s/cc_ima...he_2827851.jpg

http://pinkladyofmalibu.com/s/img/emotionheader.jpg

But the Pink Lady tunnel was built in 1952. If the date of the color slide is correct, it can't be the same tunnel.

Also...I don't think that's snow.

ethereal_reality Aug 5, 2018 4:00 AM

:previous: very cool photographs Handsome_Stranger! It sure looks like the same tunnel.

Is that the artist, or you, posing with the painting? Whoever it is...they look a bit like me.

What about the snow? YES or NO :)

Handsome Stranger Aug 5, 2018 4:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8272689)
Is that the artist, or you, posing with the painting?

It's the son of the artist. Stephen Seemayer was 12 years old when his mom, Lynne Westmore Bloome, took it upon herself to paint the Pink Lady. He saw his mom come in the door in the morning, dressed like a ninja. Hair back, black jeans, black hoodie. "Where have you been? What have you been doing?" he asked.

Coolest...mom...EVER.

ethereal_reality Aug 5, 2018 4:23 AM

:previous: Oh I see. Thanks HS. (and yes, cool Mom)


We've had some fine sleuthing this week.

Originally posted by HossC
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/C7d3u3.jpg

:previous: This is quite a discovery Hoss! I wasn't expecting there to be a second house behind 740 Hartford Ave. Good job buddy.




I had taken it for granted that the basket of sweet potatoes were grown somewhere on the property
but this duo house situation doesn't leave much room for a sweet potatoe patch! :shrug:

Originally posted by HossC demolation permit
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/NQtrTc.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/ObWqmc.jpg
ebay



Here's the close-up of the sweet potatoes again.

1920s snapshot taken at 740 Hartford Ave. Los Angeles
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/5q5794.jpg
ebay /
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/XAqzch.jpg

Lorendoc Aug 5, 2018 4:31 AM

Angeles Forest Highway
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8272649)
and now for a splash of color. (and a dash of mystery)

"1951 LOS ANGELES TUNNEL COAST HIGHWAY CA AMATEUR COLOR SLIDE PHOTO CAR"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/lJLT9D.jpg
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North portal Hidden Springs tunnel

https://i.imgur.com/hX4cxIq.jpg
https://rs.locationshub.com/Slidesho...373&id=3087800

Question for Odinthor: could those be little pine trees on the right of the original picture, that have grown into the big trees 67 years later seen on the GSV?

https://i.imgur.com/ycKhibA.jpg
GSV

odinthor Aug 5, 2018 1:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8272706)
North portal Hidden Springs tunnel

https://i.imgur.com/hX4cxIq.jpg
https://rs.locationshub.com/Slidesho...373&id=3087800

Question for Odinthor: could those be little pine trees on the right of the original picture, that have grown into the big trees 67 years later seen on the GSV?

https://i.imgur.com/ycKhibA.jpg
GSV

Absolutely! We're not quite close enough for me to "inspect" them properly; but. given the distance, they, and their li'l friend above the tunnel, sure have the right look...


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