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Handsome Stranger Jul 30, 2018 2:23 PM

How's this for Noirishness? Photo spotted on Tumblr, with no information other than LAPD 10/10/1942. Any sleuths want to take a crack at figuring out what happened, and where?

https://78.media.tumblr.com/85f6cdf0...ccdo1_1280.jpg

oldstuff Jul 30, 2018 3:17 PM

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;8264614]This next slide is anything but a mystery location.

"1960 GRAUMAN CHINESE THEATRE HOLLYWOOD ON BEACH"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/aTdZkK.jpg
EBAY (looks like I cut off the bottom, but I didn't)



Wow! ER,

I have been looking and looking for a close up view of the two gift shops which are on either side of the entrance to the Chinese Theater and here is one!! My neighbor around the corner, when I was a child, ran one of the gift shops. When the husband died, just a couple of weeks into WW II, she continued to run the shop herself and had a chauffer drive her from Burbank to Hollywood every day. Her house has a little house in the back which was the chauffer's quarters. The main house has a basement, unusual for So Cal, which contained a walk in safe for the jewelry and cash from the day's sales. She would take the jewelry home for safekeeping every day instead of leaving it in a secure area in the store. Both the main house and the chauffer's quarters, built in 1926, are still there.

She had retired by the time I was a small child and lived alone in the house until her death in 1974. Apparently she had very bad arthritis and had an in-home diathermy machine to help ease the pain, which when she turned it on, wreaked havoc with our already sketchy TV reception which was provided by the means of a roof antenna.

(Diathermy is a process by which high frequency electric current is used to stimulate heat generation within body tissues to increase blood flow, helping to heal damaged tissues and ease pain. This was apparently fairly common in the 50's since I recall there being one in my doctor's office and had treatment from it once when I badly sprained an ankle)

oldstuff Jul 30, 2018 3:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8265188)
:previous:


RENAULT is at the top of the sign-- apparently the superlemon Dauphine got 43 mpg...


https://s22.postimg.cc/l8wfa5q9t/renault1.bmp.jpg
LAT May 20, 1959 & other dates


The John Green Corporation was the LA distributor--notice what is probably that name at the bottom of the sign....

Ha! That Renault was the first foreign car name I knew as a child, since my elementary school principal had one. I felt superior knowing what kind of car it was.

oldstuff Jul 30, 2018 4:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8265530)
:previous:

There's a story that hit the newspapers on June 28, 1935 that seems to fit the bill. The victim was Miss Frances Conklin, and the alleged murderer was her lover, Daniel Nield.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...esConklin1.jpg
newspaperarchive.com

About half of the articles I found gave their ages as 42 and 61, while the others put them both at 41. This one hints at the motive.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...esConklin2.jpg
newspaperarchive.com

Just to confuse things, some newspapers reported that it was Frances' mother who accompanied them. I don't have access to newspapers.com, but here's the text from The Brooklyn Daily Eagle:

His story, the detectives said, told of a picnic that ended in a lover's quarrel when Nield accused Miss Conklin of "not loving" him. The couple, accompanied by the woman's 84-year-old mother, Mrs. Maria Conklin, were on a picnic in the park where Miss Conklin was shot. Leaving the mother alone, the two sauntered off together. The quarrel and the shooting followed, the detectives said. The aged mother, abandoned In the park and taken to her home by a stroller, did not know of her daughter's death until early today.

Frances E. Conklin was born in San Francisco in July of 1892. She was the youngest and only daughter of John Conklin and his wife, Maria Christina Noel Conklin, (mentioned in the article. ) They had two older sons.

Francis lived in SF, and was working as a stenographer where she appears in the 1920 census in San Francisco, living in a boardinghouse. Her father died in 1934 and she may have moved to LA around that time with her mother, who is mentioned in the article. Her mother died the next year in 1936. Her mother's death certificate shows that she had heart disease and high blood pressure. The circumstances surrounding her daughter's death probably contributed to her poor health. The death certificate also gives the mother's address at the time of her death as 4645 Vermont place, Los Angeles, now a warehouse surrounded by homeless camps.

Noir_Noir Jul 30, 2018 5:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8265188)
:previous:


RENAULT is at the top of the sign-- apparently the superlemon Dauphine got 43 mpg...


https://s22.postimg.cc/l8wfa5q9t/renault1.bmp.jpg
LAT May 20, 1959 & other dates


The John Green Corporation was the LA distributor--notice what is probably that name at the bottom of the sign....



Video Link



"Handy as roller skates and twice the fun."


Renault Dauphine television commercial from 1958.


https://i.imgur.com/Zv2fXbt.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/M1PqFdn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/b8kgAwt.jpg

AlvaroLegido Jul 30, 2018 6:19 PM

French Dauphine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8266706)
Renault Dauphine television commercial from 1958.
https://i.imgur.com/M1PqFdn.jpg

Where is the Dauphine would ask E-R ? I guess I see it.
There were predominant in France by the early 1960s... if I remember well.

riichkay Jul 30, 2018 11:59 PM

The Old Motor.com focuses, as the name would suggest, on vintage cars, gas stations, auto repair places etc...I searched the site for L.A. postings and came up with a few of interest...a fair number of the site's So. Cal. images are from the USC Library (many are from the Dick Whittington collection, and we've seen a lot of those)...but I don't recall seeing the following...my apologies if any are re-posts...


http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psjsjsvdnc.jpg

1238-40 E. 9th St. (now Olympic Blvd.)...


http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psgyuqd1jd.png

GSV....beneath the awning and rooftop signage, I believe that's the same Continental Auto Works building...you can see the (now reinforced) bricks if you Google tour the exposed side of the bldg...when I cruised the neighborhood, I discovered that this is now designated the "Pinata District"...I didn't know we had a Pinata District...


Same building from the interior, looking across Olympic...

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8kwgfqv4.jpg


The building with the arched doorway survives...and the used truck lot property appears to never have been developed:

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3u5iyjpp.png



http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psxowtf6uh.jpg

1212 W. Slauson Ave. (1932)


http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psdhgydl5d.png

GSV


Another view of 1212 W. Slauson...

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psw8mjx5vv.jpg


S.W. corner of Vermont & Melrose:

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psxvn8mqyw.jpg

and today:


http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pstprhuozq.png
GSV


Detail of the above...

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psxob5hjl5.jpg


http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psh7mp1lbi.jpg


Rooftop parking at Sears on Pico Blvd....October, 1939:

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pslgn2rb0h.jpg



http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6osumoaf.jpg



http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psxqfgonxv.jpg



http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psp6odfmas.jpg
1953


http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psydoiziyc.jpg

Identified only as So. Cal., but this sure looks like Hollywood or mid-Wilshire...the yellow object on the hood of the blue car is identified as a bug deflector.



http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...pss7juud1s.jpg


http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...shr0jewf2.jpeg

Above is credited to the legendary Life Magazine photographer Alfred Eisenstaedt.


1036 N. La Brea, Inglewood...1951:

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psdinadw39.jpg


The auto repair was replaced by a laundromat...the La Tijera Theater bldg. survives as a car parts business....

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psvidnvkjp.png



http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psn6xka1dz.jpg

Heavyweight champion Max Baer and his manager parked in front of the Manhattan Gym, 534 S. Spring St., 1930....the car is an L29 Cord.

The gym was owned by another champ, Jack Dempsey...it was on the 2nd floor of the building:

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0h0vvugq.jpg


This one is from the Life Magazine archives:

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3jlg3f8m.jpg

Tourmaline Jul 31, 2018 3:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8266706)


:previous: Fredrick's?

CityBoyDoug Jul 31, 2018 4:26 AM

Doesn't seem to phase Superman.

https://i2.wp.com/www.onrembobine.fr...size=500%2C375
https://i2.wp.com/www.onrembobine.fr/wp-

ethereal_reality Jul 31, 2018 5:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay
http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/...psydoiziyc.jpg

Identified only as So. Cal., but this sure looks like Hollywood or mid-Wilshire...the yellow object on the hood of the blue car is identified as a bug deflector.

I was going to ask what the heck that was on the hood of the blue car
but I see someone over at Old Motor already identified it as a bug deflector.

It must be similar to the one shown below (except in yellow of course)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/y936Q9.jpg
bug deflector/Ebay

Oh, and by the way, I think that's a school building in the distance. That might help in identifying the street.

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BillinGlendaleCA Jul 31, 2018 8:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8267435)
Oh, and by the way, I think that's a school building in the distance. That might help in identifying the street.

__

ER, I think you're right. I think the pic was taken on Orange just south of Hollywood High.

ethereal_reality Jul 31, 2018 7:45 PM

I found this photograph a few days ago on Ebay.

"LLEWELYN [SIC] Iron Works, Los Angeles California 19th Century"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/BN1HGv.jpg
EBAY [unlisted now]


Here is what's writtien in pencil on the reverse...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/U952BZ.jpg

"J.W. Burlesum(?)
Waxahatchie TX

fo(?) Llewellyin [sic] Iron Works
Los Angeles Cal


I can't quite square this photograph with the Llewellyn location in Torrance. (was there an earlier location somewhere else in Los Angeles?)
Is it possible this photograph shows a Llewellyn factory in Texas?

(even if the location ends up being Texas, you have to admit this is a fantastic old photograph)
________________________________________________________________________________


As a reminder I'll go ahead and add this additional info. [I believe this ad has been posted on nla in the past]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/fUgJ3B.jpg

from Southwest Builder & Contractor, Jan 1920 (of course this is 30 or more years after the photograph was taken)

Lomara Jul 31, 2018 7:51 PM

Diathermy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 8266510)
She had retired by the time I was a small child and lived alone in the house until her death in 1974. Apparently she had very bad arthritis and had an in-home diathermy machine to help ease the pain, which when she turned it on, wreaked havoc with our already sketchy TV reception which was provided by the means of a roof antenna.

(Diathermy is a process by which high frequency electric current is used to stimulate heat generation within body tissues to increase blood flow, helping to heal damaged tissues and ease pain. This was apparently fairly common in the 50's since I recall there being one in my doctor's office and had treatment from it once when I badly sprained an ankle)

Wow. I didn't know there was a name for this treatment until just now. I had also been treated with this method for a neck problem I had a number of years ago. It was administered as part of physical therapy. It is still a thing, apparently.

ethereal_reality Jul 31, 2018 8:28 PM

re: Grauman's Gift Shop
 
Close up / detail
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/LdBUlr.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 8266510)
:previous:
I have been looking and looking for a close up view of the two gift shops which are on either side of the entrance to the Chinese Theater and here is one!! My neighbor around the corner, when I was a child, ran one of the gift shops. When the husband died, just a couple of weeks into WW II, she continued to run the shop herself and had a chauffer drive her from Burbank to Hollywood every day. Her house has a little house in the back which was the chauffer's quarters. The main house has a basement, unusual for So Cal, which contained a walk in safe for the jewelry and cash from the day's sales. She would take the jewelry home for safekeeping every day instead of leaving it in a secure area in the store. Both the main house and the chauffer's quarters, built in 1926, are still there.

oldstuff, I didn't realize Grauman's Gift Shop sold high end items like expensive jewelry.
I'm somewhat embarrassed to say, but I pictured a touristy gift shop selling tacky souvenirs and chotchkies.
Do you, or anyone else for that matter, remember in detail what the interior of the two gift shops looked like?

Oh, and one more thing...do you mind telling us the lady's name who ran the shop?

ethereal_reality Jul 31, 2018 8:43 PM

since we're on Hollywood Boulevard.



'mystery' location - "Hollywood CA 1930s"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/lWPjCw.jpg
link coming

I'm almost certain that says 'Hollywood Maryland Grill". Has anyone heard of it before?

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odinthor Jul 31, 2018 8:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8268086)
I found this photograph a few days ago on Ebay.

"LLEWELYN [SIC] Iron Works, Los Angeles California 19th Century"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/BN1HGv.jpg
EBAY [unlisted now]


Here is what's writtien in pencil on the reverse...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/U952BZ.jpg

"J.W. Burlesum(?)
Waxahatchie TX

fo(?) Llewellyin [sic] Iron Works
Los Angeles Cal


I can't quite square this photograph with the Llewellyn location in Torrance. (was there an earlier location somewhere else in Los Angeles?)
Is it possible this photograph shows a Llewellyn factory in Texas?

(even if the location ends up being Texas, you have to admit this is a fantastic old photograph)
________________________________________________________________________________


As a reminder I'll go ahead and add this additional info. [I believe this ad has been posted on nla in the past]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/fUgJ3B.jpg

from Southwest Builder & Contractor, Jan 1920 (of course this is 30 or more years after the photograph was taken)

******************

e_r, according to a highly dubious site, the location of the Llewellyn Iron Works was 1200 N. Main in L.A. Here's a pic:

https://s26.postimg.cc/tvlvet6vd/Llew_Main_L.jpg
http://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal1a.html

The Los Angeles Times of May 16, 1894, includes the Llewellyn Iron Works in a listing of "New Corporations" for which the articles of incorporation had been filed "yesterday."

ethereal_reality Jul 31, 2018 8:50 PM

:previous: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

I'll try to match the photograph to that location.
_______________


That site isn't dubious at all ;)

ethereal_reality Jul 31, 2018 8:57 PM

'mystery' location

"Hollywood 1930s"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/lWPjCw.jpg
hollyhocks and tulips

I'm almost certain the sign says 'Hollywood Maryland Grill'. Is anyone familiar with that establishment?

p.s. I like how the two girls are dressed. Would this have been a bold statement for the 1930s?

___

Tourmaline Jul 31, 2018 9:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8268202)
'mystery' location

"Hollywood 1930s"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/lWPjCw.jpg
hollyhocks and tulips

I'm almost certain the sign says 'Hollywood Maryland Grill'. Is anyone familiar with that establishment?

p.s. I like how the two girls are dressed. Would this have been a bold statement for the 1930s? ___


Not an unfamiliar location for NLA.;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7737370)


1936 - Life
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/3fd4b27f95d324fc_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/3fd4b27f95d324fc_large





http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/822586059e418e10_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/822586059e418e10_large


http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/7aedbb1917ae92c5_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/7aedbb1917ae92c5_large



http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/857ef3767d37fb97_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/857ef3767d37fb97_large



http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/8eb062c6c3ab7ec8_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/8eb062c6c3ab7ec8_large



Quote:

Would this have been a bold statement for the 1930s?
Similar attire:

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/2abefbfc1cfb2cb0_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/2abefbfc1cfb2cb0_large

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/0730ce2f9bc70d2d_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/0730ce2f9bc70d2d_large

HossC Jul 31, 2018 9:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8268202)

'mystery' location

"Hollywood 1930s"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/lWPjCw.jpg
hollyhocks and tulips

I'm almost certain the sign says 'Hollywood Maryland Grill'. Is anyone familiar with that establishment?

p.s. I like how the two girls are dressed. Would this have been a bold statement for the 1930s?

Hollywood Maryland Grill was at 6379 Hollywood Boulevard. It appears in the 1937 CD.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dMaryland1.jpg
www.instagram.com


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