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HW666 Feb 19, 2017 12:48 PM

Morningside Hospital - 8711 S. Harvard Blvd, Los Angeles

Designed by Riener C. Nielsen & Gene E. Moffatt.
Built by Ernest W. Hahn Co in 1957.
Closed in 1980 and demolished in 2002 or 2003.

I've been searching for photos of this hospital but not had much success. I found a press photo from 1968 on Ebay but that only shows a small part of the exterior. I'm looking for something which shows the entire exterior (other than the design image below).

Does anyone have anything?

Thanks

http://i65.tinypic.com/289h91f.jpg
February 10, 1957 - Los Angeles Times

HossC Feb 19, 2017 2:30 PM

:previous:

Welcome to NLA, HW666.

From the Wikipedia page:
Morningside Hospital was a 125 bed hospital located at 8711 South Harvard Boulevard, Los Angeles, California. The facility opened in early 1958. An August 1980 Los Angeles Times article indicated that the closing date of Morningside would be September 15, 1980, citing financial losses and competition from larger hospitals. Its emergency room closed two weeks before the hospital itself.

Morningside was one of the filming locations for Halloween II (1981), Fast Times at Ridgemont High (1982), 10 to Midnight (1983) and V: The Final Battle (1984).

The hospital was abandoned and then demolished in 2002. In 2003 construction of the Harvard Yard Senior Apartments had begun on the former hospital site, with funding provided by the Los Angeles Housing Department.
There are a couple of screengrabs from 'Fast Times at Ridgemont High' at itsfilmedthere.com, but they only show two nearby buildings on Manchester Avenue. It's the only one of the movies that I have on DVD, but I couldn't even spot the main hospital building in the background. I'm surprised that a recently abandoned hospital wasn't used more often for filming in the '80s.

In case it helps anyone locate pictures of Morningside Hospital, the aerial view below on the left shows it in 1980 (to the left of the "Harvard Boulevard label"). The view on the right is from 2003.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

HW666 Feb 19, 2017 4:41 PM

Thanks for the welcome and the information, HossC.

I've managed to see the films referenced in the Wikipedia article and there are some limited views of the exterior in V: The Final Battle. The interior is featured quite heavily in that and Halloween II (where my interest come from). It possibly was used for more filming but not listed on IMBb.

I did manage to find an aerial image from 2002 but hopefully something like a bird's-eye view turns up.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2r28zzn.jpg
LA County GIS Data Viewer

BifRayRock Feb 19, 2017 7:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7717150)
The car is an American Austin Bantam, made under license from the British Austin Motor Company between 1930 and 1934.





Thanks HossC. My own eyes misled me as the wheel hub cover did not look like "Austin." Now, it's plain as day.:uhh:



Speaking of day and night, has anyone ever seen Selig's 1913 production of "The Bridge of Shadows?" (Yes, that was 104 years ago.) The description of after-dark photography from the top of the Broadway Tunnel piques my curiosity.

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...r.jpg~original Aug 23, 1913 NY Clipper, Page 8.



http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...o.jpg~originalhttps://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_of_Shadows


Another film on the list is the 1914 production of "Their Ups and Downs." http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0328725/ Apparently not to be confused with an Arbuckle short of the same name and production year, also known as "The Balloon." http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0004687/

From the Motion Picture News, Oct. 10, 1914:
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...k.jpg~original




tovangar2 Feb 19, 2017 8:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7716880)
Bif:
The photo shows the little cans that were the old garbage cans. Therefore it was 'garbage pickup day'. This was before sink disposers and consolidated trash hauling in LA County. This was also when everyone burned their trash in the backyard incinerators. All the hardware stores sold the cans.
I can remember that my mom taught me how to line the little can with old newspapers. Notice that each can has a dark ring below the lid....that's the newspaper lining showing.

I heard back from Jack over at Water & Power. His colleague Fred confirms CBD's memory that the curbside cans were "wet-garbage pails" and adds,

"Remember that dry garbage/paper would be burned in a backyard incinerator in those days, but there was wet garbage pick up for the stuff that would not easily burn. My house (1941) still has a wet garbage pail holder with a foot pedal lid next to the back door. Crickets and other crawlies live there now."


Thx CBD, Jack & Fred :-)

I have another question regarding trash. I bought a house in WLA that had an incinerator (built of field stone) behind the garage and also bins, one w/ a few discarded glass item & the other w/ metal. Who came to collect these? Private scavenger men/firms? (I'm recalling now London rag & bone men who'd come round the neighborhoods w/ a horse & cart, calling out "Any old iron?").

I cannot remember how we got rid of trash in Hermosa Beach. We didn't have incinerators. The houses in Hermosa, like most beach towns, had no yards to speak of.

The Stark's incinerator, out there hiding in the bushes:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yP...=w1221-h561-no
warner bros-first national

HossC Feb 19, 2017 8:19 PM

Thanks for your Mira Costa High School memories, Bristolian. I did wonder about the arched building next to the auditorium. I could see it on Historic aerials up until 1994, but would never have known that it was an indoor swimming pool.


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We're heading inland for today's Julius Shulman post. It's "Job 3676: Everett L. Tozier, First Baptist Church, Education Building (Pomona, Calif.), 1964". Again, this is just a selection of the images in the set.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Sadly, there are no interior images, so I don't know what's inside the glass area.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

This last shot shows the view from the back of the site.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

The building is still standing as part of a complex at 601 N Garey Ave, Pomona. I don't think it's changed much.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
GSV

Martin Pal Feb 19, 2017 8:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7715803)

Not only Bekins here, but there's that Ritts Company Bldg. again, recently discussed,
when it was Kreiss Home Furnishings. I am wondering when Bekins became Emser Tile?

Tehmeh Feb 19, 2017 9:26 PM

Sid Davis - Seduction of The Innocent (1961)
 
Another notable Sid Davis "educational" film was 1961's "Seduction of The Innocent." Filmed with the "cooperation of the Santa Monica Police Department and the Santa Monica School District," this lurid Sid Davis entry goes from "boy meets girl" to "girl gone wrong."

Although Davis often got cooperation from local police and schools, he rarely got evidence from prominent psychologists or professionals in the field, as Coronet Films or Encyclopedia Britannica Films often did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlWf4ElQgWc

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OlWf4ElQgWc/hqdefault.jpg
YouTube

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NrMLuSS9tSQ/hqdefault.jpg
YouTube

ethereal_reality Feb 19, 2017 10:11 PM

:previous:

Seduction of the Innocent [1961]

This series of screen-grabs show the young couple leaving a drug den.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/lbZouv.png


I freaked out for a second, because this looks like the 'bohemian' front of my best friend's house in Santa Monica Canyon.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/QgaoTP.png

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/xyEhGz.png

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/pdtFFn.png

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/7FhQ9w.png

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/oHNsqG.png

Santa Monica Pier is in the far distance.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/RRzpbo.png

I'm confused because the area shows a long line of small buildings....then a wide parking lot....then the beach.

today, it's either parking lot...then beach

or buildings...then beach.

but not all three (do you catch my drift?)


PCH + Parking Lot + Beach..........or PCH + Buildings + Beach
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/9Tf4ag.jpg
google_earth


So where was the line of buildings (in the 1961 film) located that appear to be wedged between PCH and a large parking lot. (are the buildings gone?)

The other explanation would be that a large parking lot was removed (from the middle section) and the buildings that are there now, are the bldgs (now modified) that were in the film

tovangar2 Feb 19, 2017 10:19 PM

Everette L Tozier - Pomona
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7717411)
"Job 3676: Everett L. Tozier, First Baptist Church, Education Building (Pomona, Calif.), 1964".

Thank you Hoss. Pomona isn't somewhere I'm overly familiar with.

The next year, Tozier, as an architect for Welton Becket & Associates, put up the Pomona Public Library at 6th and Garvey. Gebhard and Winter called it "fussy":

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nQ...=w1303-h364-no
gsv

ethereal_reality Feb 19, 2017 10:48 PM

'mystery' location.

Seller's description:

"1960 Post box, Los Angeles - Original 35mm slide"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/agBB98.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Post-bo...UAAOSw241YmNQR

The longer I look at it, the more I think this is somewhere other than Los Angeles.


note the interesting old house on the far right (detail below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/5L2RJE.jpgdetail

& lots of TV aerials
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BifRayRock Feb 19, 2017 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7717433)
Not only Bekins here, but there's that Ritts Company Bldg. again, recently discussed,
when it was Kreiss Home Furnishings. I am wondering when Bekins became Emser Tile?






Still having issues accessing permit site regarding the 8431 address. FWIW, Emser is listed in the '87 Directory, so it's been at least 30 years. Per '73 Dir., Emser was at 5780 Wilshire. :shrug:





tovangar2 Feb 19, 2017 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7717474)
Santa Monica Pier is in the far distance.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/RRzpbo.png

I'm confused because the area shows a long line of small buildings....then a wide parking lot....then the beach.

That's not Santa Monica Pier, I think it's the now vanished Pacific Ocean Park Pier, "POP" at the foot of Pier Ave. We're in the Ocean Park section of Santa Monica. The parking lot may be the one that runs south of Bicknell at Inkwell Beach (now landscaped a bit). There's two other beach-side parking lots along through there too:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/J3...g=w869-h525-no
google maps

That's Santa Monica Airport in the background:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ah...A=w868-h538-no
wiki

Former site of POP:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/M-...A=w865-h516-no
google maps

ethereal_reality Feb 19, 2017 11:34 PM

Oh...OK. That explains it. Thanks t2


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/8L3vQV.jpg1951
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7716830)
:previous:

The lady is being led from the car into the Hall of Justice... the cafeteria is at the swc of Broadway & Temple...

Thanks GW. Here's the cafeteria building again, this time from a different angle. (and many years earlier of course)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/HQgiHc.jpg
water_and_power

HossC Feb 20, 2017 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7717511)

That's not Santa Monica Pier, I think it's the now vanished Pacific Ocean Park Pier, "POP" at the foot of Pier Ave. We're in the Ocean Park section of Santa Monica. The parking lot may be the one that runs south of Bicknell at Inkwell Beach (now landscaped a bit). There's two other beach-side parking lots along through there too:

You beat me to it t2, so I went looking for more pictures. Here's a 1958 shot looking northwest.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...OceanPark1.jpg
LAPL

This 1964 view shows the parking lots. In 1963, the large empty lot about halfway down the right side was full of small buildings, but the image is blurrier.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

tovangar2 Feb 20, 2017 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7717574)
Here's a 1958 shot looking northwest.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...OceanPark1.jpg
LAPL

I've been told that between the park's closing in '67 and the demo in 1974-75, Viet Nam vets used to play live-ammo war games out on the pier. Not to kill each other, although people got winged regularly. Apparently no one begrudged them the opportunity to work out their demons.

ethereal_reality Feb 20, 2017 1:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7717574)

This 1964 view shows the parking lots. In 1963, the large empty lot about halfway down the right side was full of small buildings.

You mean this area, right Hoss?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/9TbeDf.jpg

:previous:So that strip of small buildings in the film could have been in the blue rectangle.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/pdtFFn.png
Seduction of the Innocent [1961]
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tovangar2 Feb 20, 2017 1:29 AM

The Majestic, Temple and Hill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7717529)

I think that white building in the background of the shot above is "The Majestic":

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7228437)
Looking NW over the intersection of Temple and a straightened-out Hill St. By 1955 everything was gone. Then they took the hill away. The LA City garage, and its open lot (plus much east of it), fell for the current Hall of Records (1961):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...3%252520PM.jpg
uscdl previously posted by HossC (detail)



PS

BTW, the apt building (in the image above) on Temple, west of Hill at No. 406, was called "The Majestic". It doesn't have much time left. Next door to the east, on the SW corner of Temple and Hill, was once a single-story commercial building, also designed, built and owned by Octavius Morgan:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B...9%252520PM.jpg
silent locations

Anyway, there are two fun Silent Locations pages on these environs here and here.

Harold Lloyd in front of The Majestic apartments filming "Take a Chance" (1918):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...8%252520PM.jpg
silent locations


ethereal_reality Feb 20, 2017 1:35 AM

:previous: Thanks for pointing that out t2. I was wondering about that building.

In the film it looked like it was pretty much standing alone, and your aerial proves it.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/ATOCkq.jpg
The Terrible Truth

tovangar2 Feb 20, 2017 1:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7717637)
In the film the building looked like it was pretty much standing alone, and your aerial proves it.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/ATOCkq.jpg
The Terrible Truth

Yes, the Majestic was the last to fall on that block for the HOA:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/D0...Q=w742-h448-no
google maps


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