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summersm343 Jan 25, 2022 4:26 PM

From the webcam:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...271e2395_b.jpg
Screen Shot 2022-01-25 at 11.37.15 AM by Mr. Summers, on Flickr

https://www.intechconstruction.com/p...-spring-garden

Mr. Franks Jan 25, 2022 7:30 PM

Wow, this building is going up quick!

blart Jan 27, 2022 8:14 PM

1/27

View of the crane. Phone pic snapped from the el.

https://i.imgur.com/8fqqAKN.jpg

badthingshappen Feb 8, 2022 1:30 AM

Snapped a picture today while waiting at the light. This thing is really gonna be big!


https://i.imgur.com/xiW34b5.jpg

Also noticed that they're building something on what used to be a parking lot at 8th & SG, apparently it's this: http://www.rising.realestate/146-uni...spring-garden/

Spore415 Feb 8, 2022 7:22 PM

Looking at LVL North just a few blocks to the West on Spring Garden, the entire look and feel of the streetscape has changed (for the better). Given this project is of similar width (1 full block) and twice the number of floors - I can't wait to see what the effect is once it is a few stories above ground.

Even if this property has just half the street presence as LVL North Broad has, it is still going to be a very commanding structure.

Spore415 Feb 9, 2022 5:13 PM

Tower crane as viewed from the west. Photo taken yesterday.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e9ac2948_b.jpg

summersm343 Feb 11, 2022 12:32 AM

^^Sweet shot! thanks for posting!

summersm343 Mar 1, 2022 3:52 PM

Construction Underway for Apartment Tower, Amazon Fresh at 5th & Spring Garden

https://www.ocfrealty.com/wp-content...2/IMG_6997.jpg

https://www.ocfrealty.com/wp-content...2/IMG_6988.jpg

Read/view more here:
https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-phil...-spring-garden

mcgrath618 Mar 16, 2022 1:55 AM

Today:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4f798d4f_b.jpg

blart Jun 20, 2022 9:36 PM

6/20

https://i.imgur.com/taB6x59.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/61J97Zh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/V8gMJXD.jpg

gjrip Jun 20, 2022 11:58 PM

I will never forgive this place for taking out my favorite beer distributor lol.

badthingshappen Jun 24, 2022 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gjrip (Post 9654996)
I will never forgive this place for taking out my favorite beer distributor lol.

I liked that place too! I think I posted about it in here somewhere haha. Was my go to when I was at 7th and Fairmount

chimpskibot Jun 24, 2022 1:18 AM

You can now see this peaking out from 95 south around spring garden.

helloworld Jun 27, 2022 5:10 PM

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...556b5c2d_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3db5f515_h.jpg

facade installation underway

Knight Hospitaller Jun 27, 2022 5:20 PM

^ No awards for beauty, but very welcome indeed.

jaysb Jun 27, 2022 6:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller (Post 9661179)
^ No awards for beauty, but very welcome indeed.

hahah, true. Ugly as sin but maybe as a % improvement over that strip mall it ranks a little higher. :cucumber::cucumber:

PHLtoNYC Jun 27, 2022 7:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller (Post 9661179)
^ No awards for beauty, but very welcome indeed.

I can't think of many new projects these days that would qualify for a beauty award.

At least it has window openings larger than a doll house, and maybe it will turn out better once its further along (being hopeful :)).

reparcsyks Jun 27, 2022 10:19 PM

What was there previously was so hideous and embarrassing that this looks like the Taj Mahal in comparison.

gjrip Jun 27, 2022 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reparcsyks (Post 9661516)
What was there previously was so hideous and embarrassing that this looks like the Taj Mahal in comparison.

Hey don't you dare take the name of Spring Garden Beverage in vain!!! lol

arkitect13 Jun 30, 2022 3:34 AM

I cant remember if this was in the plans or not, but what the whole project needs is street trees and flower beds. For shade and nice pops of color against the yellows, whites, and greys that dominate the project. Does anyone remember if the proposal included street trees?

PHLtoNYC Jun 30, 2022 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arkitect13 (Post 9663933)
I cant remember if this was in the plans or not, but what the whole project needs is street trees and flower beds. For shade and nice pops of color against the yellows, whites, and greys that dominate the project. Does anyone remember if the proposal included street trees?

The CDR submission link on page 1 isn't working for me, but the renders show street trees.

But that doesn't mean they are a guarantee. I hope they are included. All this development along Spring Garden is great, but vegetation is an important (overlooked) catalyst to improving a neighborhood.

summersm343 Jul 18, 2022 3:37 PM

Update from Naked Philly:

https://www.ocfrealty.com/wp-content...-1536x1025.jpg

https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-phil...en-parking-lot

helloworld Jul 27, 2022 3:30 AM

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4c351e21_h.jpg

the northern wing is just barely peeking into the frame here but from street level this is beginning to feel really massive

japmes Jul 27, 2022 11:02 AM

^^^ Is an Amazon grocery still planned for that corner?

TempleGuy1000 Jul 27, 2022 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by japmes (Post 9686898)
^^^ Is an Amazon grocery still planned for that corner?

it's almost done lol. That's what they look like.

William Van Alen Jul 27, 2022 2:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TempleGuy1000 (Post 9686913)
it's almost done lol. That's what they look like.

Wow, and I thought the Giant on Delaware Ave in South Philly was ugly.

TempleGuy1000 Jul 27, 2022 4:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Van Alen (Post 9687027)
Wow, and I thought the Giant on Delaware Ave in South Philly was ugly.

I would imagine that Amazon did their due-diligence in terms of creating a design people would feel attracted to going too. I guess people like bland and sterile looking super markets.

https://i.imgur.com/b3MEhGvl.jpg

TonyTone Jul 28, 2022 12:13 AM

https://i.imgur.com/kQZyjHgh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eymDyvSh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FQWXWQph.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fzIaWCuh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HWr44RHh.jpg

City Wide Jul 28, 2022 1:01 AM

nice clean, straight forward design.
I think it was a missed opportunity to have such a large single-story build on so much of the site.
Early on Amazon was going to take 40K of the 60K feet of commercial space; is that still the plan, and has CVS etc. taken the rest of the space?

Justin7 Jul 28, 2022 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by City Wide (Post 9687646)
I think it was a missed opportunity to have such a large single-story build on so much of the site.

This still seems completely crazy to me.

PHLtoNYC Jul 28, 2022 1:51 PM

Deleted, wrong thread.

japmes Jul 28, 2022 2:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by City Wide (Post 9687646)
nice clean, straight forward design.
I think it was a missed opportunity to have such a large single-story build on so much of the site.
Early on Amazon was going to take 40K of the 60K feet of commercial space; is that still the plan, and has CVS etc. taken the rest of the space?

Any chance for a green roof on the lower level?

badthingshappen Jul 31, 2022 3:27 PM

Never knew how much of Yards' roof was covered in solar panels.

skyhigh07 Jul 31, 2022 3:56 PM

Can’t say I’m a fan of this one. The massing is odd. They could have done something much more interesting given the angle of 5th St.

philly_account12 Aug 2, 2022 3:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by City Wide (Post 9687646)
nice clean, straight forward design.
I think it was a missed opportunity to have such a large single-story build on so much of the site.
Early on Amazon was going to take 40K of the 60K feet of commercial space; is that still the plan, and has CVS etc. taken the rest of the space?

The weird green line design above the doorway in the picture helloworld posted is on all of amazon's grocery stores so they're definitely moving in.

philly_account12 Aug 8, 2022 7:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC (Post 9664049)
The CDR submission link on page 1 isn't working for me, but the renders show street trees.

But that doesn't mean they are a guarantee. I hope they are included. All this development along Spring Garden is great, but vegetation is an important (overlooked) catalyst to improving a neighborhood.

Two minor updates. First, it seems like they're pushing for the grocery store to open asap (the sidewalk in front of that section was being re-installed this morning).

Also, it looks like the street trees are still included. There were actually 6-8 trees on site this morning waiting to be planted (which have to be for around the 1 story section since the main section hasn't topped off yet).

3rd&Brown Aug 8, 2022 7:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin7 (Post 9687851)
This still seems completely crazy to me.

I mean, on the flip side, with the massing concentrated on the east side of the site, it preserves the view corridors for many more people. If that building were that mass all of the way across the site it would have cloaked much of the development behind it in constant shadow.

To me it feels like a nice response to the surrounding area.

Add to that, I don't know what early iterations of this site looked like, but if the NoLibs Zoning Committee was involved they could have asked for the massing for the aforementioned reason. It could also have something to do with specifications from Amazon.

Who knows.

Redddog Aug 8, 2022 7:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philly_account12 (Post 9696945)
Two minor updates. First, it seems like they're pushing for the grocery store to open asap (the sidewalk in front of that section was being re-installed this morning).

Also, it looks like the street trees are still included. There were actually 6-8 trees on site this morning waiting to be planted (which have to be for around the 1 story section since the main section hasn't topped off yet).

The live cam shows the trees along 6th planted as of today.

jaysb Aug 8, 2022 7:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redddog (Post 9696967)
The live cam shows the trees along 6th planted as of today.

Glad to hear trees are going in but a 95 degree day is hardly the time to shock a new street tree :shrug:

PHLtoNYC Aug 8, 2022 8:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysb (Post 9696973)
Glad to hear trees are going in but a 95 degree day is hardly the time to shock a new street tree :shrug:

Hopefully they will be watered.

City Wide Aug 9, 2022 1:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysb (Post 9696973)
Glad to hear trees are going in but a 95 degree day is hardly the time to shock a new street tree :shrug:

The shock to the trees happened when they were dug up. This is not a good time of year for trees to be transplanted, but once the trees are dug up, then getting them back in the ground and cared for ASAP is required. 5 to 10 gallons of water every other day!

Although the City gives out bonus space for building a green roof, it looks to me that what we see on the lower, finished section is what we get.

iheartphilly Aug 9, 2022 1:52 PM

what is the diameter of the tree trunk? Small trees less than or equal to 2 inches in caliper can survived if they were pulled out of the ground properly (i.e., taken out with enough surrounding soiled to make a root ball no less than 2 ft in diameter. And yes, once re-planted, needs a good and deep soaking of the root ball, plus mulch on top. Water every 3rd day in this heat wave and it should survive if done correctly. But, who knows if someone will stay on top of this kind of maintenance until this fall to keep it alive.

jaysb Aug 9, 2022 3:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iheartphilly (Post 9697599)
what is the diameter of the tree trunk? Small trees less than or equal to 2 inches in caliper can survived if they were pulled out of the ground properly (i.e., taken out with enough surrounding soiled to make a root ball no less than 2 ft in diameter. And yes, once re-planted, needs a good and deep soaking of the root ball, plus mulch on top. Water every 3rd day in this heat wave and it should survive if done correctly. But, who knows if someone will stay on top of this kind of maintenance until this fall to keep it alive.

We need a streets gardening thread! :haha:

/s

City Wide Aug 11, 2022 1:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iheartphilly (Post 9697599)
what is the diameter of the tree trunk? Small trees less than or equal to 2 inches in caliper can survived if they were pulled out of the ground properly (i.e., taken out with enough surrounding soiled to make a root ball no less than 2 ft in diameter. And yes, once re-planted, needs a good and deep soaking of the root ball, plus mulch on top. Water every 3rd day in this heat wave and it should survive if done correctly. But, who knows if someone will stay on top of this kind of maintenance until this fall to keep it alive.


So good of you to volunteer for watering duty. I'll supply you with a hose.
Lets face it, to most developers trees, and their survival, are not a high priority.

iheartphilly Aug 11, 2022 2:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by City Wide (Post 9699567)
So good of you to volunteer for watering duty. I'll supply you with a hose.
Lets face it, to most developers trees, and their survival, are not a high priority.

hose is no good without water, preferably a portable water tank on a truck lol. developers should care about landscaping, it adds to the appeal of their project and aesthetics. I can only imagine it's a tiny part of the budget for development and afterwards, from condo fees or rent, this cost can easily be part of things like routine maintenance and upkeep.

I think the Alexander does a good job with this and an institution example like the barnes foundation museum does a superb job of keeping the grounds.

PHLtoNYC Aug 11, 2022 12:46 PM

^ If I lived nearby I'd happily water them. I actually find things like that therapeutic, lol.

Knight Hospitaller Aug 11, 2022 3:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iheartphilly (Post 9699604)
hose is no good without water, preferably a portable water tank on a truck lol.

I just had an idea for a dystopian TV series where some armed guy goes around in a tank truck trying to save the last remaining city street trees, amidst water scarcity. ....

iheartphilly Aug 11, 2022 5:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller (Post 9699950)
I just had an idea for a dystopian TV series where some armed guy goes around in a tank truck trying to save the last remaining city street trees, amidst water scarcity. ....

Let's start on writing a script and then we can pitch it to Netflix...LOL.

Philly Fan Aug 11, 2022 5:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iheartphilly (Post 9700059)
Let's start on writing a script and then we can pitch it to Netflix...LOL.

Video Link

Knight Hospitaller Aug 11, 2022 7:15 PM

^lol


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