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oldstuff Jul 21, 2015 3:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7102383)
"If you build it they will come."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/9cONST.jpg
eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/F5ZU6d.jpg

It looks like Mr. Zabendin built his trout filled 'lake' in his very own backyard. I wonder if he got the proper permits? ;)
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oldstuff, do you think you could dig up some information on Clarence Zabendin?
His home address might prove to be the location of his lake folly.


Here's a closer look at the people.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/iEYEM9.jpg
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Sorry, I struck out. The only person who he remotely might be is a Clarence Earl Zbendin, born in 1891 in Washington State. He did apparently serve in the Navy in WWI, and spent some time in Naval Hospitals where he appears on patient registers. He lived in Nevada for a time and died in Washington, but there are no records of him in Los Angeles. He may have lived in Stockton for a while, but not in LA, at least according to the records I can find. He died in 1947.

Tourmaline Jul 21, 2015 4:06 PM

Imbued with hues, pt. 2.


We have seen colorized LA images before. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=28180 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=28181 Here are some more with a certain ring of familiarity. From: https://www.facebook.com/imbuedwithhues









https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8f&oe=5652F043https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8f&oe=5652F043








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Exact location unknown
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CityBoyDoug Jul 21, 2015 4:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7102390)
shack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/22xq1D.jpg

2015 Gone!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/gqM7SX.jpg
gsv
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I thought its interesting that they're recycling the bricks from the old building. We see the stacks of them in the back of the lot. I've heard that used bricks are not cheap.

tovangar2 Jul 21, 2015 5:44 PM

S Wilton Place from Pico to Venice, Mid-City
 
I could not resist looking at dannywa01's "new" neighborhood, S Wilton Place from Pico to Venice in Mid-City:

This is the place in 1910 when Pico Blvd was "Pico Street", W 15th through here was "Dorchester" and Venice was still called "16th Street". Three institutions then dominated the neighborhood:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...64146%2BPM.jpg
Baist, plate No. 17, 1910 (detail)

dannywa01's two blocks of S Wilton Place:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0...15029%2BAM.jpg
Baist, plate No. 17, 1910 (detail)

The Los Angeles Country Club (mentioned many times on the thread, this is just a tiny recap) was started as the Los Angeles Golf Club in 1897 on land that is now centered on Alvarado Terrace. Too cramped, LACC briefly moved to 16th (Venice) and Hobart, then on to the nearby premises shown on the map below, at the NW corner of Pico and Western, where they built their first 18-hole course. In 1911 LACC decamped to West LA, to a parcel just north of 20th-Century Fox studios, where they remain. The grounds of the club's former premises were platted into house lots and built out.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-M...94006%2BPM.jpg
Baist, plate No. 17, 1910 (detail)

Eleven years later (compare with the map immediately above):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R...00705%2BAM.jpg
Baist, plate No. 17, 1921 (detail)

This photo taken looking north towards Hollywood up Western from Pico in 1898 gives an idea of the lay of the land before anything was built. Just two years later, LACC will take over an irregularly-shaped parcel on the left, siting their clubhouse near the intersection. After the club departed, this area was converted to residential use and became known as Country Club Park:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...90047%2BAM.jpg
cc pierce/usc dl

The same view today:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...73645%2BAM.jpg
gsv

"Harvard College", later "Harvard School" and now Harvard-Westlake, (the school has also come up multiple times on the thread) was established, originally as a military school, in 1900 at the site shown on the first map above, at W 16th St (Venice Blvd) and Western. Thirty-seven years later, thwarted in their attempt to move to Westwood, they relocated to the defunct Hollywood Country Club grounds at the Valley end of Coldwater Canyon. The school's former location is now Western Plaza Shopping Center. There's a big Food 4 Less there, a CVS, a Factory 2U and some other shops.

The original Harvard College/School building, "Harvard Hall", by Arthur Burnette Benton (1900), faced on Western Avenue:
Today the site is Western Plaza Shopping Center:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J...74544%2BAM.jpg
gsv

The Good Shepherd House is a Catholic charity which provided, and still provides, services to women and their children. As part of their mission, they ran Pelletier Catholic High School for Girls on the northern end of their property from 1905 until 1977. When the school ceased operations, the land was sold to LAUSD. Pio Pico Middle School is there now and uses two of the historic structures from the former high school. Good Shepherd retreated to the southern end of the property at the corner of Arlington and Venice behind a big hedge. The Sisters continue to maintain a shelter for victims of domestic violence:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-d...74247%2BAM.jpg
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Good Shepherd (SW corner with pool below) now shares its original site with Pio Pico Middle School:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2...01912%2BAM.jpg
gvs

The streets surrounded by Good Shepherd, LACC and Harvard School were built with large homes of wood and stucco during the first two decades of the last century. Good brick apartments and 4-plexes provided infill in the 1920s. More modern apartments have replaced many of the homes. About twelve of the original houses remain on S Wilton Place, between Pico and Venice, most in good repair.

This one, for example, from 1910 is at No. 1422:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U...91854%2BAM.jpg
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Another at No.1527, also from 1910, features an unusual roof line:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p...24719%2BPM.jpg
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One of the 1920s apartments is No. 1310 (1927):
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...10130%2BPM.jpg
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A generous four-plex (1922) at No. 1321:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N...80401%2BAM.jpg
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetsu (Post 7100910)
Thanks to t2 for digging up the building permit. :D

All thx go to Beaudry. He's the one who so generously gave us the info re building permit searches. I put that one up so he'd know I do pay attention....sometimes :-)

(now if the city would just cross-reference them by architect & contractor!)

oldstuff Jul 21, 2015 7:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7102589)
I thought its interesting that they're recycling the bricks from the old building. We see the stacks of them in the back of the lot. I've heard that used bricks are not cheap.

The general going rate for used brick is about 50 cents apiece, for generic ones. Something more interesting like clinker brick may be more.

When our old church building was damaged in 1971 by the Northridge earthquake, the parapet wall fell down and our youth group "cleaned" brick, knocking off the old mortar with hammers and chisels and stacking the brick (1927 vintage) to be sold. The Church made some good money which was used to repair the damage to the building.

Noircitydame Jul 22, 2015 1:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7102429)
I'm not sure where the Beverly Hills Athletic Club was located....but while looking for the address I came across this 1933 photograph on pinterest.

Did you get the address, E-R? 120 S. Roxbury Dr.

jumbo0 Jul 22, 2015 5:47 AM

I found this one between some old pictures of L.A. of my grandfather. Does anybody know where and when this could have been taken? I haven't the slightest clue!

http://s1.postimg.org/o2dy6ljbz/image_1.jpg

tovangar2 Jul 22, 2015 7:54 PM

966 3rd Ave / Michael Madura / Chatterboc Cafe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7101508)
Here is a short bio on Michael Madura:
Michael T. Madura was born in Nebraska on March 10, 1910. He enlisted for WWII, and at that time, May of 1942, he was living in Los Angeles and his occupation was in hotel and restaurant management. He served in the Army during the war. That record shows him as being 5'11". He shows up, married to a Bernice Madura, in a voter registration in 1952. They were living at 966 3rd Avenue, Los Angeles in both the 1952 and 1954 Voter registrations. That house is still there and the "Googlemobile" gives us a nice picture without the dreaded "vegetation". Mr. Madura died in May of 1976

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7101568)

oldstuff, e_r, remember this 1926 house? The LA Conservancy does tours of it:

LAT article here

LAT photo essay http://www.latimes.com/home/la-hm-li...togallery.html

Zillow listing

The inside is beautifully detailed and maintained.

Batchelder tile fireplace:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-l...22044%2BPM.jpg

Built-ins:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-D...22632%2BPM.jpg


Pix: LAT

fhammon Jul 22, 2015 8:54 PM

Location Please
 
Can anyone identify from where this photo was taken?
It might be a shot from Fort Moore Hill overlooking the Protestant cemetery with the town in the background. Or?
There must be more photos from the set somewhere.

http://i57.tinypic.com/1yqypv.jpg

Having trouble with linking photos just now...

rbpjr Jul 22, 2015 10:43 PM

West Adams area
 
Can anyone out there find a history of the apartment building at 440 South Bonnie Brae?

CityBoyDoug Jul 22, 2015 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbpjr (Post 7104272)
Can anyone out there find a history of the apartment building at 440 South Bonnie Brae?

Click this link>>>>>>


http://www.propertyshark.com/mason/P...eles-CA-90057/

tovangar2 Jul 22, 2015 11:26 PM

440 S Bonnie Brae
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rbpjr (Post 7104272)
Can anyone out there find a history of the apartment building at 440 South Bonnie Brae?

A bit more:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-v...41747%2BPM.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-T...41739%2BPM.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-M...41723%2BPM.jpg
online building records system

Hasn't this come up before? That building looks familiar.

Sixteen years earlier architect Rosenthal was a mere draughtsman:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y...75023%2BPM.jpg
Los Angeles Herald, 17 September 1907

tovangar2 Jul 22, 2015 11:38 PM

Old Calvary Cemetery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 7104141)
Can anyone identify from where this photo was taken?
It might be a shot from Fort Moore Hill overlooking the Protestant cemetery with the town in the background. Or?
There must be more photos from the set somewhere.

http://i57.tinypic.com/1yqypv.jpg

Having trouble with linking photos just now...

Old Calvary Cemetery looking SW I think from Radio Hill Gardens. The cemetery is now the site of Cathedral High, home of the "Phantoms"

Here:
Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 5999805)
I think the first pic is looking southwest, from approximately the location of today's Savoy Street as it approaches Bishops Road. And the second pic looks from the same general direction, but from further up Radio Hill, and turned to look more to the left (southerly).


I'm sure some kind person spliced these together for me, but I can't find it now.

LAPL has six images

Krell58 Jul 23, 2015 3:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7102429)
I'm not sure where the Beverly Hills Athletic Club was located....but while looking for the address I came across this 1933 photograph on pinterest.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/SA8yKk.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/548594798331753451/

The "Nine O'clock Revue" (whatever that means)

left to right:
Doris Whitney, Carla Laemmle, Marcia Kreuger, Mary Ann Darling, Helen Clive and Virginia Kami.
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I was hoping this would connect to our rooftop boxers from last May,
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=28554 but it doesn't look like it.

fhammon Jul 23, 2015 3:31 AM

Dang, yer good tovangar2.
I'm almost speechless. Good thing I can still type.
Thanks, once again!

tovangar2 Jul 23, 2015 5:27 AM

:previous:

LOL, most of the time I'm drawing a complete blank, but I remember a lot of the images and info re Old Calvary b/c there was a discussion that went on for a few pages starting with FredH's post back on pg 610.

SW view from Radio Hill over Bishops Rd and Cathedral High (to compare with second cemetery photo):
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-N...92117%2BAM.jpg
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https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-a...72259%2BAM.jpg
baist 1910

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i...72504%2BAM.jpg
google maps 2015

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Krell58 (Post 7104517)
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I was hoping this would connect to our rooftop boxers from last May,
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=28554 but it doesn't look like it.

Miss Bow looks like she's hoping to "connect":
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-N...90956%2BPM.jpg
still for "rough house rosie" (1927)

alanlutz Jul 23, 2015 5:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7101542)
I didn't know you were working at Disneyland alan.

If you don't mind me asking...what part of the cast do you play?

ethereal_reality,

You May recall that I was an educator for 40 years which is part of why I found this site in the first place, after doing annual 6th grade field trips to Los Angeles from Orange Co for 20 years using the Metrolink. After one of the trips I was doing some further research and googled Los Angeles Hall of Records and found images of the old building here. I got hooked on your group ever since and became even more of an expert on DTLA and appreciated my trips all the more because I now knew what it USED to look like and all the transitions it has been through. Made me a better tour guide and a more facinating hobby of riding not only the Metrolink from OC to LA but also the Green line, Blue Line, Gold Line. Expo Line and of course the original subway in LA, the Red Line.
Anyway, I retired from school in 2013 but continue leading the trips for the good of the school and the kids. Which brings me to answer your question, after a year and half of retirement here and my other love of Disneyland 4 miles away and all things Disney, I wanted to drive the trains as Fireman and Engineer but had to be working in the park somewhere first to transfer. They ended up offering me a job in Attractions in Adventureland which is also the same department as Frontierland and Main Street Transportation and Trains. I was first trained as a Skipper on The JUNGLE CRUISE and to run the Tiki Room. Last week I just finished training for Indiana Jones. I also do guest control on main street for parades and fireworks and for the Fantasmic! show. Only been 5 months now but I love it.
Sorry to the rest for off topic but wanted to reply to ER and T2 so it's this short paragraph instead of messaging.
I still Love and enjoy all the work and research ALL you guys do here. Best historical site on the Internet. Alan

tovangar2 Jul 23, 2015 3:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlutz (Post 7104618)
...I was first trained as a Skipper on The JUNGLE CRUISE....

LOL, that's great. Thanks for the news. Did you do the jokes? I loved that part.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k...91321%2BAM.jpg
african queen (1951)

ethereal_reality Jul 23, 2015 7:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7103175)
Did you get the address, E-R? 120 S. Roxbury Dr.

Thanks NoirCityDame.
I've been out of town, so I haven't had much time to find a photograph of the old athletic club.

ethereal_reality Jul 23, 2015 7:48 PM

It sounds as if you have a fascinating second career Alan. Good for you!


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/ZqnavY.jpg
http://matterhorn1959.blogspot.com/2...1_archive.html

A tourist taking a photograph and two Jungle Cruise employees (the boat loader, left, and the boat skipper under the awning), 1960s.

-note the name of the boat....the Nile Princess. (is there still a 'Nile Princess' today?)


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