MIAMI | Metromover Extension to Miami Beach
Announced today. This will replace previous plans for a monorail that would have linked to Miami Beach as a separate mode of transit (requiring 3 separate modes of transit to get to the Beach). This would eliminate the Monorail and just extend the existing Metromover system to South Beach.
Construction set to begin in 2025. Press Release https://www.miamidade.gov/global/rel...67391297572218 Quote:
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maybe merge with this thread: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...hlight=baylink
This metromover extension will replace the Baylink plans from the above thread. |
Good, this make way more sense than a different mode of transportation than what we have existing.
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I am looking forward for that! Can’t wait to get on it! I am very surprised! No need to worry about paying parking meters at the beach anymore.
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Why not just extend a line of Metrorail to Miami Beach and have a streetcar/light rail line servicing the barrier islands from South Beach to the North? Metromover might be cheaper, but does it have the capacity to bring tons of people between Downtown and South Beach across the intercoastal?
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I thought Miami looks similar to Vancouver with the multi-skylines and both near water and maybe they could make Metromover like Skytrain and Metrorail like the Canada Line. Miami with over 2x Vancouver's population should have a transit system that can be nearly as good.
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As for capacity the current Metrobus system transports about 14,000 passengers a day between South Beach & downtown Miami. Metromover already carries about 18,000 daily passengers in it's 4.4 Mile system so this shouldn't be too difficult capacity wise. I want to applaud this announcement but we approved this Extension to the Beach in November 2002 when we approved the half cent Sales Tax for Transit. We've been waiting 20 YEARS for something that should have been done a long time ago and I honestly thought I would probably be dead before this would ever happen. |
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Still no news about Metrorail extension to Miami-Dade/Broward County line. |
Miami-Dade County votes to accelerate Metrorail's northern extension to Hard Rock Stadium:
https://www.thenextmiami.com/county-...ction-by-2024/ https://i.imgur.com/ZXJicIb.jpg |
:previous: So they are going to build this 8 Mile extension of MetroRail all the way to the Broward County line with only one station terminating across from the Hard Rock stadium? I see that they are going to build this without any Federal monies but I wonder if the stations that were originally planned will ever get built if they don't secure funds after this extension is built.
Hopefully many South Broward commuters will use this line to get to Miami. |
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Once again, I'm not sure where exactly the ROW has been proposed, but it would've been better to have used Dodge Island to place the ROW as opposed to constructing a 5-mile bridge to South Bridge, which would've been a much better plan IMO. I'm looking at the long term viability as opposed to just trying to supply Miami Beach with whatever mode of transport is available and I'm hoping Miami-Dade Transit can reconsider either heavy rail via Dodge Island or light rail or the monorail because of higher capacity plus the fact tha Miami Beach is a city of about 90K, which makes a lot of sense to consider those modes of transit over the Metromover. Quote:
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That would need to be some bridge to get from Dodge Island to South Beach. There are already 235 foot tall cruise ships passing through government cut and in the future I am sure they will be even taller.
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You can go steeper with rubber tires like Montreal or Paris, but that doesn't change the height of the bridge, it would be more roller-coaster like. And it would not be compatible with the existing Metrorail system, so you'd need to have a transfer at Government Center. Unless Miami wants to pay a billion dollars to add an underwater tunnel or move the cruise terminal, they can't send rail via Dodge Island - it has to go via the causeway. If you want to serve the cruise terminals, you can put a station on Watson Island (which has other tourist attractions) and run a shuttle bus system through the PortMiami tunnel. Or an overhead cableway system! |
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As for not building stations, that seems very foolish. It's a lot harder and more expensive to build a station next to an active (electrified) rail line, much easier and cheaper to build it all up front. CTA here in Chicago is paying $80M for a new elevated station at Damen, with about the same platform length. So 7 new stations would be ~$550M, give or take. More if they want to move the Opa-Locka Tri-Rail stop to allow a transfer there. |
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I’d prefer that MDT builds each station consecutively but due to the urgency of hosting the 2026 World Cup, as well as an alternative to going to and leaving events hosted by the Miami Dolphins, Miami Hurricanes, Miami Open, and the Miami Grand Prix, it makes a lot of sense why MDT would hasten the construction to Hard Rock and build up the infill stations after the ROW and Hard Rock station are completed. |
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I don’t like the Metromover only because it’s low capacity, it’s a free ride for 5 miles, and I see this as a money pit if built since it makes no sense to build a low capacity, automated system for five miles and the annual maintenance being considered, will the Miami Dade taxpayers foot the entire bill? Like I said, if MDT can’t build nor afford a heavy rail line in Miami Beach, the. MDT should consider light rail at least because I don’t like the nimbyism from Miami Beach residents when it comes to mass transit and everything else and considering that Miami Dade is now officially a Republican enclave, and the city of Miami Beach is a mostly Democrat city, one would think that the GOP are anti transit when it seems like with the North Metrorail expansion, the Tri Rail expansion, and the Brightline, it seems like FL Republicans are more pro-mass transit than FL Dems, even though Miami Dade has a mostly Democrat county council and the county mayor is a Democrat. Quote:
Only question is how much state and federal funding is available for the North Metrorail extension? Hopefully it’s enough funding just to expand and build the Hard Rock station and I’m pretty sure since Hard Rock has the highest priority over other stations, Hard Rock station will the first station built along the new extension. I’m also sure that MDT will build the infill stations once they complete Hard Rock Station as I don’t see MDT shutting down the line for 18-24 months (not what I said) just to build infill stations. I used to live in Philadelphia and used the take the Blue Line to Center City and I used to see certain stations closed and certain stations opened. For example, 56th and 46th St would be closed while 60th and 52nd Sts would be opened. I can see that scenario playing out in that in addition to Hard Rock already being built, the County Line (Unity Terminal) is most likely to be the next built since it’s a terminal, and maybe Miami Dade College, and maybe Ali Baba Ave while the line still provides service. What I was trying to say is that it’s still possible to operate a transit line when stations are either closed as in the case of the Blue Line in Philadelphia or the station has yet to be built, as in the case of Miami. Anything is possible and the only thing stopping the North extension is possibly state and federal funding. |
What is the point of running a metro line with only one station? I get why you want it running for World Cup fans, but if there's not an event going on at Hard Rock then who will even use the train? Maybe they just do service for special events only (Dolphins games, etc).
It makes a lot more sense to me to shut the line down so you can build the infill stations faster and cheaper... It's obviously possible to keep running the trains thru active station construction zones, it's just more complicated. I don't have a lot of faith in Miami-Dade ever since they proposed running Metrorail trains at-grade down the middle of 27th Ave to save money... |
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It happens all the time in NYC, Boston, Chicago, and Philadelphia and I’m pretty sure Miami is no different when it comes to service and construction. I’m also assuming the view that you have is that of an emerging city which has yet to experience a bigger, more expansive mass transit system than a major city that’s already used to having such a system for decades. All I can say about that is things take time and once again, be patient! Quote:
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