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chris08876

Jan 29, 2015 7:37 PM

MIAMI | 1836 Biscayne Boulevard | 445 FT | 40 FLOORS

Another Tower proposed right near 1900 Biscayne BLVD..

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‘Floating’ Parking Garage, 352 Residential Units, Proposed Above Historic Biscayne Boulevard Church

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Architect Add Inc has prepared a creative plan to preserve the historic church at 1836 Biscayne Boulevard, while adding 352 residential units and a parking garage.

Under a proposal scheduled to be reviewed by Miami’s Historic and Environmental Preservation Board next week, the church would be restored and retrofitted to become hurricane-resistant. Instead of a place of worship, a grocer would occupy the space.

A 34-story residential tower would be built next to the church. ‘Floating’ above the former church would be a parking garage. In total, up to 480 parking spaces are planned.

Developer Fifteen Group paid $14.25m for the property last year. R.J. Heisenbottle Architects is working alongside ADD Inc for Fifteen Group as a historic preservation consultant.

The church is directly across the street from Atlas Capital Group’s newly proposed 429-unit residential tower at 1900 Biscayne.

Rendering:

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Credit: http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...storic-church/

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Credit: Dave8721; http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2771

Current Site:

http://i.imgur.com/nfCqWGZ.jpg

Older News About the Purchase (Property):

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historic church at 1836 Biscayne Boulevard church has been sold to Fifteen Group for $14.25m.

The First Church of Christ, Scientist, had been sold in 2013 to an Eb-5 developer for $6.25 million. Plans for a glassy Arquitectonica-design restaurant that preserved the church were prepared by the previous owner but will likely be scrapped.

Fifteen Group has been an active land flipper in Miami. The company recently sold the Biscayne Beach site, as well as the former Electra site in Midtown. Fifteen recently bought the downtown FedEx property and is a partner in the Midtown 29 project.

Location:

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http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...storic-church/
http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...fifteen-group/

dave8721

Jan 29, 2015 8:03 PM

I kind of wonder about a grocer going in the former Church space. Lugging groceries up and down all those steps? (I guess no carts).

chris08876

Jan 30, 2015 7:22 PM

Extra Renderings:

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dave8721

Mar 4, 2015 1:37 PM

Design changes approved for the garage that will hang over the church.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...e12290225.html

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...church_NCS.JPG

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Christian Science church building in Miami one step closer to being saved

BY ANDRES VIGLUCCI
AVIGLUCCI@MIAMIHERALD.COM

Biscayne Boulevard’s grand Christian Science church came one big step closer to getting saved on Tuesday, when Miami’s historic preservation board endorsed a significantly tweaked proposal to suspend a parking garage for a new condo next door over the historic building.

A month after balking at a previous version of the blueprint, which preservationists complained seemed to “crush” the 1925 church, the board unanimously approved a new conceptual design that would slim down the garage and set it back significantly more from the front and side of the historic building than before.

The garage also grew one story to nine decks, but will be elevated more than previously proposed over the church roof. The increased spacing was intended to clearly separate the two structures.

In the new plan, board members said, the garage no longer appears to squat on top of the graceful, neo-Classical church building, designed by leading 1920s Miami architect August Geiger.

chris08876

Mar 5, 2015 1:34 AM

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Cleaner Rendering without watermark:

http://i.imgur.com/tw134wB.jpg
Credit: http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...levard-church/

chris08876

May 1, 2015 12:11 AM

About the property: 1836 Biscayne - CBRE (PDF)

colemonkee

May 1, 2015 2:43 AM

I like how they're integrating the church, but the "New Miami" looks a whole helluva lot like the current Miami.

bobdreamz

May 1, 2015 3:12 AM

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Originally Posted by colemonkee (Post 7010836)

I like how they're integrating the church, but the "New Miami" looks a whole helluva lot like the current Miami.

I think you may have gotten confused with "the next Miami" which is the website reporting on this project.
I absolutely detest this project and hope it never comes to fruition. The Christian Science church is a beautiful building by itself and this project is awful.

chris08876

Aug 31, 2015 11:12 PM

Fifteen Group Revises Plan For 38-Story Tower Above Historic Church, Wants To Sell TDRs

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Developer Fifteen Group has submitted revised plans for a project at 1836 Biscayne to make it more appealing to preservation officials, as well as make the project more economically viable.

Plans call for a 38-story tower with 352 residential units and 637 parking spaces above the historic First Church of Christ at 1836 Biscayne Boulevard. The auditorium would be open to the public and either become a grocer or retail store. An similar design was already approved earlier this year.

Changes were made to the parking garage, in response to comments from members of the Historic & Environmental Preservation Board who had expressed about the massing of the garage and light pollution from cars inside.

Other changes include the scope of demolition of the historic church. An earlier proposal had called for the 19th street facade of the church to be altered, but the alterations will instead be made to the west facade, which Miami’s Preservation Office supports since it is out of public view.

The developer is also requesting that the building be declared historic which would allow them to sell 2 million square feet of TDRs. Those rights could be worth nearly $20 million, and could be sold even if the residential tower isn’t built.

Miami’s Preservation Office is recommending approval of the plan, and the Historic & Environmental Preservation Board will review it this week.

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chris08876

Sep 3, 2015 1:47 AM

As a followup to the post above, the submissions of the plans warranted the tower to get approved. :cheers:

This will be 38 floors.

N830MH

Sep 3, 2015 4:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 7151629)

As a followup to the post above, the submissions of the plans warranted the tower to get approved. :cheers:

This will be 38 floors.

Did they approved it yet?

chris08876

Sep 3, 2015 2:31 PM

Yes it was approved.

chris08876

Feb 11, 2016 6:58 PM

Condo Tower Above Church At 1836 Biscayne Granted Miami 21 Waiver

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Miami zoning officials granted final approval on January 27 for the 1836 Biscayne project.

The project includes a condo tower built above a historic church, along with a grocery in the former house of worship.

A waiver from the Miami 21 zoning code was needed in order to permit driveway aisle widths that are 8.7% smaller than required. The smaller driveway widths allow for a reduction in parking plates, in order to emphasize the spatial form of the Biscyane Boulevard corridor as an active public space, which was requested by the Historic Preservation Board.

Although the project was ultimately approved, it could be expensive to build.

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chris08876

Oct 15, 2018 5:41 PM

Development Rights Sold From Historic Church At 1836 Biscayne To Elysee

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Fifteen Group, which owns the historic Christian Science church at 1836 Biscayne Boulevard, has sold some of the development rights.

700 Miami Partners purchased 180,000 square feet of development rights, according to a filing with the city.

After the transaction, Fifteen Group now has 1,868,526 square feet in development rights at 1836 Biscayne.

Properties in Miami that are designated historic are permitted to transfer development rights to unrelated properties.

A 34-story apartment tower has been approved to be built above the church.

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chris08876

Jul 1, 2019 2:07 PM

@ Mods,

Change title to: MIAMI | 1836 Biscayne Boulevard | 418 FT | 40 FLOORS

Thanks :cheers:

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REVEALED: 40-STORY APARTMENT TOWER PROPOSED NEXT TO HISTORIC EDGEWATER CHURCH

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40-story, 418-foot tall apartment tower is proposed to be built next to the historic Christian Scientist Church on Biscayne Boulevard in Downtown Miami.

The tower would include 364 rental apartments.

Adaptive reuse of the church will include retail, with a sloped floor in the main sanctuary to be flattened.

A parking garage is proposed to include 389 spaces, with up to 421 spaces possible if mechanical lifts are used. Zoning code requires 616 spaces for a project of this size, and the developer is asking for a waiver.

Fifteen Group is the developer.

In 2015, the developer proposed a similar sized tower on the property with a much larger parking garage suspended above the church, described by the city as creating a negative structural and visual impact (structural columns were proposed to go through the church dome).

Cube 3’s Jonathan Cardello is the architect. Cardello was previously with architect ADD Inc., which created the 2015 design.

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chris08876

Oct 17, 2019 4:39 AM

EDGEWATER’S 40-STORY 1836 BISCAYNE TOWER SCHEDULED FOR A HEARING BEFORE THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD TODAY

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Developer Fifteen Group is proposing to preserve the church and build an apartment tower that rises 40 stories, or 419 feet above ground next to it. A portion of the new tower will jut out over the church building.

The new plans appears much more practical and economical to build compared to previous proposals, which would have required support columns be placed inside the existing church building.

At the ground floor, the existing sanctuary area will be converted into retail, with a sloped floor to be replaced by a flat floor if the tenant requests it. A residential lobby will also be built.

Above that will be another level of retail in the church. In the tower, a 10-story podium will extend upward with mostly parking space.

Amenities will be on levels 10 and 11, including spa and pool areas.

Levels 13 through 38 will have apartment units, with a total of 364 units.

A rooftop lounge will be located on level 39, with indoor and outdoor kitchens and dining areas, a fire pit, a pool, and cabanas.

Total building height is 418 feet.

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chris08876

Jan 7, 2022 4:12 PM

Developers Announce They Will Soon Break Ground On 40-Story Edgewater Tower

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A 40-story apartment tower will break ground in Edgewater this year, according to The Real Deal.

Skylight Real Estate Partners, Panther Capital Management, and Arden Group just paid $20 million for the historic First Church of Christ, Scientist, built in 1926. The property is in an Opportunity Zone.

Fifteen Group was the seller.

The new owners said they will break ground in Q4 2022 on a 40-story, 418-foot tower using plans that have already been approved.

By going with the previously approved plans from 2019, the developers estimate they will save a year that would have been required to obtain approval.

The previously summitted 1836 Biscayne plans call for:

364 apartments
Rebuild of church space into ground floor retail
389 parking spaces (421 spaces if mechanical lifts are used)
The renovation of the church space, with its tall ceilings, “is going to be amazing,” a broker said.

Completion will take 24 to 27 months.

The sale has not yet been recorded, and a construction permit does not yet appear to be pending.

Cube 3’s Jonathan Cardello is the architect.

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JMKeynes

Jan 7, 2022 4:15 PM

I love Miami with a passion, but 98% of its new towers are garbage.

chris08876

Aug 18, 2022 5:57 PM

This is moving through the approval process with historical/zoning approval matter. One of the towers that now has representation.

rivernorthlurker

Aug 18, 2022 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JMKeynes (Post 9496103)

I love Miami with a passion, but 98% of its new towers are garbage.

Haha, this is so true. But those last 2% are some of the best in the country right now and maybe the world. People remember the winners and not the duds. I'll take it.

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