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odinthor May 5, 2019 12:41 PM

I don't know if noirish be quite the word; but I can certainly imagine something bizarrely Angeleno happening at Clifton's . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/13fQrDJ7/Cliftons.jpg
Wikipedia

Martin Pal May 5, 2019 7:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanqv (Post 8562613)
Came across this yesterday. Curbed LA had a video of some old footage of the opening of Union Station from 1939. Check out the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmOo9oKrjLI

Article if you want to read more:

https://la.curbed.com/2014/4/21/1011...ening-day-film


Thanks, I had not seen that footage before. And that it was in color surprised me!

It does seem rather odd there's no other footage of the opening of Union Station, in newsreels or anywhere else. It drew enough people that you'd think it would've drawn some more attention that way. Strange. Wonder why?

Peeweehal May 5, 2019 8:33 PM

L.A. Import car show
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8558958)
Michael Ryerson showed us the whole photoset from the 1958 Imported Car Show back in post #9216 in 2012 (it never hurts to repeat a good picture). USC has zoomable versions of all the photos here, so maybe you'll be able to spot more cars. I think there's a Citroën DS almost hidden behind another car.

I couldn't find a location, but the 1959 event was held at the Shrine Exposition Hall.

It looks like the Rootes Group display might have been upstairs. It looks like a Hillman roofline in the extreme upper right corner of the photo.

Bristolian May 5, 2019 11:50 PM

:previous:

Good eye spotting the Hillman upstairs. I think the 1958 show was also at the Shrine Exhibition Hall. Here's a photo of the empty hall. Even the circular pattern of the floorboards match.
http://i63.tinypic.com/2641a4o.jpg
https://www.historictheatrephotos.co...s-Angeles.aspx

Original photo:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnarf (Post 8558712)
My eyes aren't sharp enough to spot any Rootes vehicles here, but some may have been lurking in the background. I spy a few Isettas and a Lloyd. The stars of the 1958 Los Angeles Imported Car Show were the fancy Mercedes and Jaguars, provided by Peter Satori, as well as the US debut of Datsun. There's a picture of it in the link.

https://assets.hemmings.com/blog/wp-...ow_02_1500.jpg
Source: hemmings.com

Link: https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2012/0.../#&gid=1&pid=1

I wasn't familiar with Lloyd automobiles but found out the it's the little wagon with the white top, facing the Bentley convertible. It has suicide doors which I believe the kids would describe as "gangsta"

ethereal_reality May 6, 2019 3:42 AM

I looked through all the past posts that mention "Sanders" and none of them concerned this Oldsmobile dealership.


"Sanders Oldsmobile, La Brea & Wilshire, Los Angeles, California."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vSXGdk.jpg
John Margolies, 1976


For some reason, the slide is usually cropped like this online, eliminating the right side of the photograph and the view of the Carnation Building in the distance)

Since we know the Carnation Building is located on Wilshire Boulevard, the auto dealership must have been a bit south of Wilshire.



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Beaudry May 6, 2019 7:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8563327)
I looked through all the past posts that mention "Sanders" and none of them concerned this Oldsmobile dealership.


"Sanders Oldsmobile, La Brea & Wilshire, Los Angeles, California."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vSXGdk.jpg
John Margolies, 1976


For some reason, the slide is usually cropped like this online, eliminating the right side of the photograph and the view of the Carnation Building in the distance)

Since we know the Carnation Building is located on Wilshire Boulevard, the auto dealership must have been a bit south of Wilshire.



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This was a great building. It was built as Murphy Oldsmobile in 1945; its architect was Max Maltzman .

Here are three Google Street views from 2007, 2010 and 2014...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4918a52c_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...715f8980_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1d441ae1_c.jpg

...which should tell you the fate of our friend Murphy Oldsmobile.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...410fd1e8_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b37d640d_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f60581dd_b.jpglottalivin

Now, look in the background of Margolies's 1976 image or the 2007 Google Street view, see that also-demolished building with the vertical fins? That's Irving Shapiro's 1965 Columbia Savings.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...25cc5edd_b.jpg

Here's what the skylight looked like:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...35f7c7f5_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ab1cb149_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1c8d32c3_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...74de21aa_c.jpg
Columbia Savings pix from here

ethereal_reality May 6, 2019 9:43 PM

Thanks for the information Beaudry.

I wasn't really expecting Sanders Oldsmobile to be standing..but I was shocked that Irving Shapiro's mid-century Columbia Savings is gone as well.
That's the first time I recall seeing the interior. It was quite impressive!

"The bank's design integrates significant works of abstract art, including a 45-foot-long brass screen-waterfall sculptural fountain by local artist Taki
and a 1,300-square-foot dalle-de-verre (faceted glass) stained-glass skylight by acclaimed artist Roger Darricarrere that crowns the interior light well."
... franklinavenue.blog

Was any of this saved? :shrugs:
_________________________


update;

Darricarrere's 'stained glass' ceiling is up for auction at LOST CITY ARTS

Here are pieces of it up close.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/bh3PWZ.jpg...https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/3wNHdP.jpg

ethereal_reality May 6, 2019 10:16 PM

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ihmfjy.jpg
recently fround on Ebay


Turned for easier reading.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/ROWc3A.jpg




I wasn't able to find the house at 1986 W. Washington but I happened upon another old imspressive house from the same time period
..but today it's hiding behind a horrible 1948 addition that was tacked on the front.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/zjGic9.jpg
GSV

United Maygar House 1975 W. Washington

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/VesOEn.jpg

Today it is the Hungarian Cultural Center.





HERE'S A MUCH BETTER PHOTOGRAPH.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/8T256n.jpg
United Maygar House




Back in the Day. [pic. taken 1940]
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/wgFMDK.jpg
Found on Yelp, of all places.


Does anyone know th history of this house? :shrug:






At least some of the original woodwork is still intact.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/6GOESF.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/Mg5RYv.jpg




Lastly, the truly horrendous 1948 addition from above.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Gc33rx.jpg

:hell:...............................................................................................................................:hell:...............................................................................................................................:hell:








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Lomara May 6, 2019 11:03 PM

1975 W. Washington
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8564292)


I wasn't able to find the house at 1986 W. Washington but I happened upon another old imspressive house from the same time period
..but today it's hiding behind a horrible 1948 addition that was tacked on the front.



Back in the Day. [pic. taken 1940]
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/wgFMDK.jpg
Found on Yelp, of all places.


Does anyone know th history of this house? :shrug:

FlyingWedge found and posted about it last July.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=47626

ethereal_reality May 7, 2019 2:48 PM

Family poses for a snapshot on Vine Street just south of Hollywood Blvd. [c1950s]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/qEnNMS.jpg
Ricarda Thiesen / Pinterest

:previous: What first caught my eye is the red vehicle that appears to be parked on the sidewalk. (in reality; it's, no doubt, in a parking space)*
Anyhoo, it looks like the back of, what we called, the 'Resusitator' in my home town's fire department. (think Mayberry)..... *searches frantically for image* .....*finds nothing*


*Hmmmm, so where is it parked? At first I thought it might be parked at Ed Pyle's old gas station on the northwest corner of Vine & Selma....
but now I think it might be somewhere closer, like next to the old Huntington Hartford Theatre [1615 N. Vine]. (near that greasy spoon that used to be there)

Nevermind: Now that I think about it, the greasy spoon was located in a building that was part of Ed Pyle's old gas station. .....we've covered this, like, three times and I still can't get it right.

You know what. I don't care where the damn thing is parked....;)



. . .my 'Mayberry' is a ghost town now.....less Aunt Bea...more meth lab.
...
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ethereal_reality May 7, 2019 8:40 PM

"New Year's 1920, Mayor & Mrs. Snyder"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/f8IbaT.jpg
Ebay

At first glance I thought it was covered in wallpaper.

AS A REMINDER.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/VWMQQG.jpg
findadeath

28th, 30th and 38th Mayor of Los Angeles. He served from 1897-1898, 1901-1904 and 1920-1921.

ethereal_reality May 7, 2019 8:53 PM

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/MjQB1v.jpg
Ebar

I would have guessed this is the 1920s...but it looks like the postmark says 1950. :shrug:


reverse
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/j1OR9A.jpg




So you don't have to crane your neck.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/qIgrUO.jpg

for search purposes: Firemen, La Brea Tar Pits, Los Angeles.

ethereal_reality May 7, 2019 9:13 PM

I had to chuckle at the seller's description for this.


"HAUNTED HOUSE, OLD WITCH WOMAN & LONG LETTER ~ 1910s LOS ANGELES VINTAGE PHOTO"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/J1PdM3.jpg
Ebay


SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO CRAIN YOUR NECK. :)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/T5l24W.jpg


Reverse
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/hPZM4P.jpg



968 mystery street.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/tIVOMV.jpg

Home of Grace Martin.




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ethereal_reality May 7, 2019 9:52 PM

mysterious Evelyn.

And this one is entitled:

"HAVE NO IDEA"--HOPE YOU DO--LOOKS MILITARY TYPE~~......At least the seller is honest.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/pujXvB.jpg
Ebay

What do you all think? ..military? ...governmental? ...business?

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HossC May 7, 2019 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8565544)

I had to chuckle at the seller's description for this.

"HAUNTED HOUSE, OLD WITCH WOMAN & LONG LETTER ~ 1910s LOS ANGELES VINTAGE PHOTO"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/J1PdM3.jpg
Ebay

...

968 mystery street.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/tIVOMV.jpg

Home of Grace Martin.

I thought that the postmark was in the '20s. The 1921 CD has a Grace M Martin living at 968 Court Circle.

oldstuff May 7, 2019 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8565544)
I had to chuckle at the seller's description for this.


"HAUNTED HOUSE, OLD WITCH WOMAN & LONG LETTER ~ 1910s LOS ANGELES VINTAGE PHOTO"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/J1PdM3.jpg
Ebay


SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO CRAIN YOUR NECK. :)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/T5l24W.jpg


Reverse
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/hPZM4P.jpg



968 mystery street.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/tIVOMV.jpg

Home of Grace Martin.




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Grace Martin lived at 968 Court Circle, Los Angeles in 1910. It appears that the street is no longer there, but the cross street was Temple. Court Circle was lost to the 110 freeway. She was 15 years old in 1910, having been born in February of 1895. She was the daughter of Franklin Martin, a widowed carriage painter. Grace appears to have been born in California but the family was from Illinois. At the time she had an older brother George, who was 16. The family appears in the 1900 Census, and at that time Franklin's parents were also living with them. The next time they are found are in the 1910 Census on Court Circle. The family appears again in the 1920 census, still at the same address, a home Franklin owned. The information for the family is the same except that Franklin is now painting automobiles instead of carriages.

Earl Boebert May 7, 2019 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8565581)
mysterious Evelyn.

And this one is entitled:

"HAVE NO IDEA"--HOPE YOU DO--LOOKS MILITARY TYPE~~......At least the seller is honest.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/pujXvB.jpg
Ebay

What do you all think? ..military? ...governmental? ...business?

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I think the last two letters "nc." between the on the upper left indicate some business ("inc.") whose name ends in "EL" and who have headquarters in New York, Chicago, San Francisco and New Orleans. And who, if they were honest about it, owned a heck of a lot of horse drawn wagons :-)

Cheers,

Earl

BINGO! Jewel Tea Company. Searched on "Headquarters New York Chicago New Orleans San Francisco" and a 1923 FDA judgement came up. *Deep Bow*

Lwize May 8, 2019 7:26 PM

I think you need more than nc and el for Bingo.

Earl Boebert May 8, 2019 8:26 PM

Here's a full shot of one of the wagons:

http://nebula.wsimg.com/0c78df76e53e...&alloworigin=1

From the Jewel Tea Historical Foundation: http://www.barringtonhistorymuseum.org/jewel-tea.html

And yes, it appears they indeed had a heck of a lot of horse-drawn wagons :-)

Cheers,

Earl

BillinGlendaleCA May 8, 2019 8:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8565581)
mysterious Evelyn.

And this one is entitled:

"HAVE NO IDEA"--HOPE YOU DO--LOOKS MILITARY TYPE~~......At least the seller is honest.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/pujXvB.jpg
Ebay

What do you all think? ..military? ...governmental? ...business?

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Great now I've got 'Lovely Rita' as an earworm.


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