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HenryHuntington May 4, 2019 4:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8561726)
No, that isn't your imagination, Hoss. It definitely looks like Claud Beelman, Architect.



I had some fun with the photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/APLy2S.jpg
EBAY

I hadn't noticed all the Xs on the windows. (proving the building is brand new) . . .and designed by Claud Beelman. (thanks Hoss!)

What are the men doing?

If they weren't smack-dab in an urban area...I'd say they're drilling a well.
_____________________________

FYI & FWIW, the "mystery contractor" would be C.L. Peck.

Here's his obituary:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...665-story.html

The father of a close friend was a heavy equipment operator (cat' skinner) who worked a lot of jobs for Peck in the 1950s-60s. Each in his own way was both a mover and a shaker. May they both RIP.

FredH May 4, 2019 4:50 AM
Well, E.R., this just may be one of your old supermarkets. According to Wikipedia, The Boys markets turned into Ralphs or Food 4 Less. When I googled Ralphs, Movieland Plaza, I got this:

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums.../Capture_7.png
Google Street View

The address is 7257 Sunset, in West Hollywood. I couldn't make out the address on the old sign, but it looks like four digits, starting with a seven,

Problem is that I can't seem to match up anything in the background of your photo.

Maybe some of you guys are better at it than I am. Take a look around.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/72...4d-118.3485522

Lorendoc May 4, 2019 5:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8561738)
OK folks, I have another question.

Where was Movietown Plaza? [c.1968]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/RRneC6.jpg
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When I first saw The Boys Market sign I immediately thought of the Ralph's on the northwest corner of Santa Monica and Robertson Blvds. in WeHo (where I used to do my grocery shopping).
The Movietown Plaza/Boys Market was at 7310 Santa Monica Blvd (cross street is Fuller). The picture was taken from the grocery store parking lot looking north towards the hills. There is a newish Trader Joe's there now.

I think you did your shopping at Safeway/Von's (now Pavilions), e_r, at the nw cor of Robertson and Santa Monica. There is a big sign inside that store which says "Serving West Hollywood since 1961."

Lorendoc May 4, 2019 5:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8561965)
Well, E.R., this just may be one of your old supermarkets. According to Wikipedia, The Boys markets turned into Ralphs or Food 4 Less. When I googled Ralphs, Movieland Plaza, I got this:

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums.../Capture_7.png
Google Street View

The address is 7257 Sunset, in West Hollywood. I couldn't make out the address on the old sign, but it looks like four digits, starting with a seven,

Problem is that I can't seem to match up anything in the background of your photo.

Maybe some of you guys are better at it than I am. Take a look around.



https://www.google.com/maps/place/72...4d-118.3485522
This is the Rock'n'Roll Ralphs on the north side of Sunset near Fuller. I do my grocery shopping here and at e_r's Safeway/Vons/Pavilions, never thought I'd see them posted at Noirish LA.

sadykadie2 May 4, 2019 6:05 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8560199)
Who would want to eat in (or next to) a smelly junkyard? Tom's place was set up to fail.

Question for all: what is the most "noirish" restaurant in L.A. today, one that oozes the pre-1960s? Musso & Frank? Formosa Grill? Barney's Beanery? The Smokehouse? The Biltmore? Broadway? Randy's Donuts? Maybe one of the "Googie" style diners like Norm's or Bob's Big Boy (Bob Hope loved the one in Burbank near his Toluca Lake manse)? One of the sad old restaurants in Chinatown? Are Los Feliz and Beachwood Canyon (below the Hollywood(land) sign) the most "noirish" districts in L.A.? These places ooze "Double Indemnity" for me. Where in L.A. can you go & feel you've stepped back 70 or 80 or 90 years?
Definitely the Tam 'O Shanter in Atwater!
:cheers:

HossC May 4, 2019 8:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8561726)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/APLy2S.jpg
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What are the men doing?

If they weren't smack-dab in an urban area...I'd say they're drilling a well.
The Geo J Bock Co is listed under "Excavating & Grading Contractors" in the CDs around 1940, so they must've been digging for something. Their offices were located at 1120 N Las Palmas Avenue.

HenryHuntington May 4, 2019 6:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sadykadie2 (Post 8562006)
Definitely the Tam 'O Shanter in Atwater!
:cheers:
Excellent choice, SK2!

My suggestions (no particular order):

https://www.pacificdiningcar.com/since_1921.html

https://la.eater.com/2019/5/3/185283...david-kuo-chef (Formosa Cafe)

https://www.philippes.com/

https://www.facebook.com/colesfrenchdip/

https://mussoandfrank.com/

Taix French Restaurant - Los Angeles, Echo Park, Silverlake | Since ... taixfrench.com/

http://www.pantrycafe.com/

badrunner May 4, 2019 8:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ryanqv (Post 8560337)

https://imageshack.com/i/pnce79Erj

View from the air of downtown.
Great pics. I hadn't seen this angle of downtown in mid "urban renewal" before. I see that Court Hill is completely leveled. Bunker Hill in the foreground is next to go. I wonder if the residents had already been evicted at this time? I like to imagine that between the time it was condemned and the actual demolition, for a short time Bunker Hill stood as an abandoned ghost town with overgrown weeds and boarded up windows. Maybe a few squatters hanging on til the end.

ethereal_reality May 5, 2019 1:31 AM
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/kKDRY9.jpg
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Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 8560782)
Christian Endeavor was started as a youth movement in churches in 1881. It was non-denominational and eventually spread all over from its beginnings in Maine. It was organized by Rev. Francis Clark. Every four years they would have conventions. My parents were involved when they were young. My father and uncle led singing, my mother and aunt played pianos. I have pictures of my mother and aunt in the 1930's at the conventions in Downtown Los Angeles, playing two grand pianos on either side of the stage at the Shrine Auditorium. Somewhere at home I think I still have programs from these conventions.

An amazing coincidence is that my father was born on the day that this postcard was postmarked!
Thanks so much for answering my question about Christian Endeavor, oldstuff.
I did a double-take when you said your own family was involved..and that the postmark is the same as your father's birth date. [July 15, 1913]



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Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 8560782)
I have pictures of my mother and aunt in the 1930's at the conventions in Downtown Los Angeles, playing two grand pianos on either side of the stage at the Shrine Auditorium.
We'd love to see the photographs, oldstuff (but I believe you have trouble posting pics, right?)
Let us know if we can help in any way. :)



There's a program from the 1913 convention on Ebay. There can't be many of these left.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/dU2UTn.jpg
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Here are a couple 'sample' photographs.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/ZH869E.jpg
Ebay search purposes: The Canadian Headquarters Booth at the Los Angeles Convention.


Notice the sheaves of grain.





State Headquarters, Fiesta Park!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/H7ChY0.jpg
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BillinGlendaleCA May 5, 2019 2:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sadykadie2 (Post 8562006)
Definitely the Tam 'O Shanter in Atwater!
:cheers:
I'm going to hit the kid up to take me there for Father's Day.

ryanqv May 5, 2019 3:15 AM
Only Known Footage of Union Station Opening
 
Came across this yesterday. Curbed LA had a video of some old footage of the opening of Union Station from 1939. Check out the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmOo9oKrjLI

Article if you want to read more:

https://la.curbed.com/2014/4/21/1011...ening-day-film

Mstimc May 5, 2019 4:53 AM

My vote is for Taix. I haven't been for several years but the whole 50's-60's vibe and dark decor has noir dripping all over it. And the waiters in their formal white coats strike me as the type who know how to keep their mouths shut when they overhear the wrong kind of conversation.

ethereal_reality May 5, 2019 4:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8561984)

I think you did your shopping at Safeway/Von's (now Pavilions), e_r, at the nw cor of Robertson and Santa Monica. There is a big sign inside that store which says "Serving West Hollywood since 1961."
You are correct, Lorendoc. I got Ralph's confused with Safeway.

I found the sign you mentioned.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Mz7r6n.jpg
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Sorry I led you astray by saying Ralph's, FredH.

FredH May 5, 2019 6:43 AM
:previous:

Ha! E.R. I led my self astray with Wikipedia and Google. I thought I had it until I got there and looked around.

I do remember an early 1970's The Boys Market around Marina Del Rey. Not sure exactly where it was.
My sister was lining on Pacific Ave. in Venice and I visited once in a while when I was stationed at Vandenberg AFB.

Lomara May 5, 2019 6:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8560199)
Who would want to eat in (or next to) a smelly junkyard? Tom's place was set up to fail.

Question for all: what is the most "noirish" restaurant in L.A. today, one that oozes the pre-1960s? Musso & Frank? Formosa Grill? Barney's Beanery? The Smokehouse? The Biltmore? Broadway? Randy's Donuts? Maybe one of the "Googie" style diners like Norm's or Bob's Big Boy (Bob Hope loved the one in Burbank near his Toluca Lake manse)? One of the sad old restaurants in Chinatown? Are Los Feliz and Beachwood Canyon (below the Hollywood(land) sign) the most "noirish" districts in L.A.? These places ooze "Double Indemnity" for me. Where in L.A. can you go & feel you've stepped back 70 or 80 or 90 years?
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Originally Posted by sadykadie2 (Post 8562006)
Definitely the Tam 'O Shanter in Atwater!
:cheers:
All good choices here. I vote for Canter's Deli!

FredH May 5, 2019 7:20 AM
:previous:

How about the Far East?

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...far%20east.png
Google Street View

Philip Marlowe and Moose Malloy ate there.

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...20Lovely_1.jpg
Farewell, My Lovely,1975, Embassy Pictures

CaliNative May 5, 2019 9:50 AM
Yes, Phillipe's and the Pantry are very noirish. Once ate at Taix at a luncheon meeting. Not that impressed with the food but it is definitely old and historic. Some of the waiters are ancient. I read that the long term bartender at Musso & Frank passed away. He worked there since the mid 1960s. Never ate at the Pacific Dining Car, but I hear it's an experience.

CaliNative May 5, 2019 9:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sadykadie2 (Post 8562006)
Definitely the Tam 'O Shanter in Atwater!
:cheers:
Haven't tried the Tam. Used to live in L.A., but now down in north San Diego County. Next time I'm up there will try it.

CaliNative May 5, 2019 9:57 AM
[QUOTE=FredH;8562718]:previous:

How about the Far East?

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...far%20east.png
Google Street View

Philip Marlowe and Moose Malloy ate there [Quote]

Any place with a Chop Suey sign where Marlowe ate is definitely a noirish gem.

CaliNative May 5, 2019 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Lomara (Post 8562708)
All good choices here. I vote for Canter's Deli!
I hear Langer's Deli near MacArthur Park is very good, and goes back many decades to the "noirish era". Close to a redline subway station.


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