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Here's an amazing photograph postcard of an apartment building that we've only see once from a distance. "1910s LOS ANGELES rppc NOLEN APARTMENT BLDG 512 W FIRST ST. California" https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/XJoyMz.jpg eBay . .and the reverse. . https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/e6Iq9V.jpg . .turned to avoid neck discomfort. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/qtqrxy.jpg Go HERE to see HossC's earlier post with the Nolen. . |
Dating the photo by the LA&R sign doesn't help much unless we're on Wharf Three. Just to clarify, the LA & Redondo only ever ran between its namesake cities though it did offer three different routes to make that trip. Through service began in 1890, and the company itself was apportioned between PE and LARy in late 1910 preparitory to the Great Merger of 1911.
Wharf Three was a latecomer, having been built c1902-05. So if you can locate the bait shop on that wharf, you're in business for banding the date of the photo. Note that LA&R owned the Redondo wharves, so they likely had offices on all three. Sorry I can't be more help! |
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The postcard is signed by whom I take to be the wife of the owner of the apartment building. Going by the CDs, the Nolens appear to have started living at 512 W. 1st. St. about 1906, and the place was advertised in the LA Herald as the Nolen Apartments from 1909 to 1915. But as the years in that term went on, it seems the Nolens tired of the property: https://i.postimg.cc/jjWRrBtN/Nolen-...1912-11-14.jpg LA Herald, 11/14/1912 In 1924 (see last two paragraphs of article) . . . https://i.postimg.cc/Zq14Yj5Q/Nolen-...T-1924-2-3.jpg LA Times. 2/3/1924 :drunk: |
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Thanks so much for information on the Nolen Apartments, odinthor! .. Excellent sleuthing. :) And I love the moonshine story. ...hic-cup . |
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The 1906 Sanborn Map matches odinthor's 1909 map in showing just three homes on the east side of S. Westlake Avenue between Maryland and 6th. The big Colonial would be 438 on the left: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...h_3_houses.jpg ProQuest via LAPL Oscar and Alice Farish appear to have built 438 S. Westlake in 1896; Oscar's last listing there is in the 1900 city directory: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...d_Maryland.jpg May 9, 1896, Los Angeles Evening Express @ Newspapers.com https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...8_Westlake.jpg 1897 LA City Directory at fold3.com By 1901 it was advertised as a lodging house: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...ake_Avenue.jpg May 20, 1901, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com Its demolition permit is dated October 16, 1923. |
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Excellent sleuthing FW. All seems to add up. "438" became "538" between the 1910 and 1914 Baist maps, apparently in the citywide post-annexations rejiggering of streets and addresses. The house was technically south of Fifth Street.... Interesting that the 1923 demo BP indicates "438" (no lot number indicated on it to confirm--permit-pullers and the building dept were incredibly sloppy back then, and, really, all through the decades). I was hoping to find another image of it but no luck. 1910 & 1921 Baist maps https://i.postimg.cc/J7B9s37j/538as438-bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/3x9qsn9Q/538-21baist-bmp.jpg LAT 4-5-14 https://i.postimg.cc/hPDbkgYh/538aucad-bmp.jpg |
Anything remain of these 1900-1910 homes along Westlake?
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Apropos of, well, very little...I just noticed that by the end of the year this forum thread could reach 3000 (!) pages. Or 6000 if you set the posts per page at ten instead of twenty like I do. So that would mean there's 17 or 34 pages to go, or 340 more posts to make. Which would be around 14.2 posts a day. However, 340 posts previous to this one occurred around October 12th. So unlikely.
Anyway, I saw this interesting article: The Japanese Fishing Village That Vanished From Los Angeles Link HERE. https://www.messynessychic.com/wp-co...71-930x735.jpg© National Archives 80 years ago: View of main street at Terminal Island in Los Angeles Harbor, 1942. |
There was a big super bright moon like this over Los Angeles last night!
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KNX broadcast Paris Inn
We've seen images of Bert Rovere's Paris Inn at 210 East Market St before (there certainly seem to be a lot of them. Ol' Bert must have been quite the showman. They even had their own theme song!) But I don't think we've seen this fold-out advertisement for a KNX broadcast from the mid 1930s. It came to me as a PDF but to convert it to JPGs, I had to divide it into two images:
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:previous: That's an amazing piece of ephemera, MartinTurnbull...Thanks for posting it large enough so that we're able to read the two recipes. :) If anyone would like to check out Martin's website go to martinturnbull. He's the author of Hollywood's Garden of Allah. .among other fine books. . |
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I'm hoping someone can enlighten me on, what I assume is, a theater company named Troupers. ..The slide was taken in 1983. .my first full year in Los Angeles. . but I don't recall ever seeing this 2 story house along LaBrea . .and I certainly don't remember the Troupers. Here's the eBay seller's description:.. Original 35mm Slide - Hollywood Ca Los Angeles 1983 - 1627 N La Brea https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/GXsgwt.jpg eBay Note the auditorium in the back. ...(is that Abby Hoffman?) If you look closely (see detail below) the sign hanging on the front porch says "300 seats" which I take means 300 seats in the auditorium. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/SgLCOT.jpg detail And on closer inspection I was surprised to see a different street number on the auditorium. (1625) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/37tftN.jpg By the time 1983 rolled around the Troupers had been in the house for at least 22 years! https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/spFgcR.jpg LAPL Help! I want more information on this theater company :whip: . . .and while you're at it, Sullivans Lounge. . |
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Wayne McAllister
Whenever I get my car repaired, I walk to Bob's Big Boy for coffee and a burger. I want to send some Wayne McAllister appreciation. I know he comes up from time to time. Here's some info about him and the restaurant:
"The postwar coffee shop and Los Angeles go together like a hamburger and French fries. Bob’s Big Boy in Burbank is one of the most iconic postwar coffee shops in Los Angeles. Bob Wian built his first restaurant, Bob’s Pantry, in Glendale in 1936. Bob’s Big Boy on Riverside Drive is one of the earliest surviving of Wian’s restaurants and part of a larger expansion of his chain in the late 1940s. The 1949 restaurant is a transitional design incorporating 1940s Streamline Moderne styles (broad, curving window walls and canopies) while anticipating the exuberance of freeform ‘50s coffee shop architecture (cantilevers, striking signage, use of glass). Coffee shops of this era raised billboards to an art form, and the thirty-five-foot neon Bob’s sign is an integral part of the building. The larger sign made the coffee shop visible to passing automobiles and helped establish Bob’s as a brand. The building was designed by Wayne McAllister, an architectural designer whose range of work included the Agua Caliente Casino and Hotel in Tijuana, early Las Vegas hotels such as El Rancho Vegas and the Sands Hotel, as well as many of Los Angeles’ iconic mid-century restaurants and coffee shops. Now the oldest operating Bob’s Big Boy in the nation, this location was threatened with demolition in the 1990s, long before the renaissance of Mid-Century Modernism. The owner has since reinvested in the building’s Modern splendor and successfully uses its historic designation as a marketing tool." - LA Conservancy https://i.postimg.cc/T2Vpb6Bt/B7-A6-...2-A41-AAD2.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/0jsj4WKG/1200px...oy-Burbank.jpg Wikipedia https://i.postimg.cc/kGvGPQW0/195573...319b974b46.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/25gVQ8zK/herberts1.jpg Restaurant-ingthroughhistory.com |
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:previous: Thanks for the information, odinthor. So the Troupers bought the house (and auditorium? ) in 1948 for $70,000. That seems like a lot to me. How much is that in today's money? And I imagine the auditorium was originally a garage . . maybe. . |
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This is a total surprise. Believe it or not, the Grateful Dead played the Troupers Auditorium on March 25, 1966. . . So we get a peek inside. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/1SkY8c.jpg dead.net At the last minute they had someone run out and buy bolts of fabric to decorate the stage. And there they are in photograph! https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/mJVMJl.jpg postertrip Troupers Hall Los Angeles, CA 03/25/66 1. Stealin' [#1:37] 2. Jam [7:41] 3. Hey Little One [4:46] 4. Hog For You Baby [2:49] 5. You Don't Have To Ask [5:56] 6. Cold Rain And Snow [3:24] 7. Next Time You See Me [2:30#] "The last recording I have of the Dead's sojourn to Los Angeles is of the show they played at Trouper's Hall in Los Angeles on 3/25/66. Trouper's Hall was the meeting room for a retired actors club in Hollywood, and was possibly the location of the Sunset Acid Test, which also occurred on 3/25."... gdlistening And you can listening to the live performance at the internetarchive . |
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Here's about the Troupers at their earlier location, 1742 Ivar:
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Back when Bud Testa was the host of the Rudolph Valentino Memorial Service at the Hollywood Cemetery he always invited the "Troupers' Chaplain" to give the invocation. I remember Troupers' Chaplains Jack Kelley and Pilson Potter.
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Here's another auditorium-like building that was recently posted on eBay. (sold) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/2Uq58O.jpg eBay Hmm. . .so was the area around Figueroa and 53rd St. home to a Greek enclave in past? :shrug: update: I just checked Figueroa and 53rd St. and I'm pretty sure it's gone. It was either replaced by a giant seashell, a parking lot or it's now an empty lot. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/zNNA4F.jpg Check the area out for yourself here. . |
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This is a link to a transcript of interviews of Hancock Banning Jr., and includes much of interest, not only about Terminal Island but also about Catalina and so on. The reminiscence of the Japanese presence on Terminal Island begins on the manuscript's page 114 (the online doc's pagination makes it the e-doc's page 123). https://static.library.ucla.edu/oral...h-1-master.pdf |
There were a lot of movie theaters in this area. *The Westlake Theater. Much of the lavish interior survives, though in great need of restoration/refurbishment. A few months ago I got a chance to go through there and post some pix here: http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/497
*The De Luxe Theater was on the next block south. It stopped being a theater long ago, but the building has been repurposed for many uses, its last being a 99 Cents Store. It's currently in disuse and up for sale. http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/37887 Back in 1915 there was a showing of some of the silent Oz movies there with L. Frank Baum, author of the Oz books, as a special guest. *The Vagabond Theater on Wilshire Blvd. I went in its latter days when it was a revival theater. In 2006 it returned to being a live theater and is now the Hayworth. http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/1170 *The Lake. http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/5065 *The Park. The theater was gutted in 1986, but the facade is still there, just up the street from Langer's. http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/2339 Quote:
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In war, constitutional rights often get shredded. Even our most esteemed President, Lincoln, suspended some constitutional rights when he thought it necessary to preserve the union. Of course many Japanese Americans, while outraged about the internment, were eager to prove their patriotism and served with distinction and bravery in Europe. |
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Interestingly enough, on Hawaii the Japanese were not interned as they couldn't go anywhere. When I worked in Culver City in the late '70s - early '80s, a woman of Japanese ancestry also worked there. In the file room one day I walked in and several people were there. It was December 7 and I said, "Today's Pearl Harbor day, I think I'll go out tonight and get bombed." (Do people still say "bombed" as a term for getting drunk?) After a few titters, that woman said, "I was there that day." When one thinks of something as a historical event you don't necessarily think anyone you're acquainted with would've been there. I was floored. I asked her about it. She said she was a small child and out playing with other children in the morning. They saw all of the planes flying overhead on the way to the Harbor and the kids were all waving at them and enjoying the spectacle. She didn't use the word enjoying. She did feel the need to say, "We were just children, we didn't know," something I just understood to be the case. At the time she then would've probably been in her 40's. 50 at most. Now I wished I'd asked her to sit down later and talk about it all and what it was like in Hawaii and all that, but I was too young to realize that at the time. |
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I think "bombed" and "smashed" are still in use, but "tipsy" has left. **** After the recent death of my beloved mother, I ponder the arc of my life. I was born just 87 years after the end of the Civil War, 49 years after the Wright's first flight, 23 years after the Crash of '29, 7 years after the end of World War 2. President Truman was still in the White House when I cried my first breath. I was 8 when JFK became President, 10 when John Glenn orbited the Earth, 17 when Armstrong stepped onto the Moon, 22 when Nixon resigned, 32 when I attended the perfect opening ceremony of the '84 Olympics in the Coliseum. We are all living in history. Youth is fleeting, the decades whoosh by, and soon we will be part of history ourselves, joining the countless generations who have come before in whatever comes after our brief stay here. It is all a great mystery, but we the living are all brothers and sisters sharing this momentous sliver of time. Life and human consciousness has been a gift, painful at times, but a gift, of a Creator or perhaps just evolution. I just wish it weren't so brief. The Iongevity of a Galapagos Tortoise, 175 years or more, would better suit a species of our awareness and talents. I would love to know how it all turns out. It is like getting halfway into a good novel, but not knowing how it ends. Hopefully I have more years to read more pages of the book of life. I hope we survive this dangerous period of war in Europe. I would like to be here see the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics, the city of my birth and youth, another mile post not far ahead. A solution to mass homelessness would be gratifying to see. And after that, perhaps witness a mission to Mars if the "grim reaper" allows. I don't want to leave the party of the living, it is all so interesting. Just 10 years more, please. I must know how it turns out. :wiseman: |
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I looked through past posts and didn't find anything on Todd's Department Stores which is surprising considering it had six locations! https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/xUAI9n.jpg eBay https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/w7HZYT.jpg eBay The seller included this small pic. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...922/pe32ds.jpg :shrug: . |
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:previous: I agree sadykatie2. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts with us, CaliNative. Today we have a mystery location and mystery movie. Seller's description:..."Mickey Rooney dangling from a building over vintage Los Angeles unknown." I've seen a lot of actors dangling from windows but I've never seen a dangling Mickey Rooney. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Zacoar.jpg eBay (reprint) 3 questions. 1 Is he dangling from a real building or a studio mock-up? 2 If it is a real building. . what building is it? :shrug: 3 Does anyone know what movie this is from? (the seller doesn't even know) 4 What is the building under construction? (I couldn't resist asking) . |
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:previous: From Mickey McGuire series, "Rescue", 1934. In upper image there are two people dangling, Mickey and Billy Barty and/or their stunt doubles. https://thrillingdaysofyesteryear.fi...pg?w=300&h=233https://thrillingdaysofyesteryear.fi...pg?w=300&h=233 https://www.aaavintageposters.com/wp...14-768x512.jpghttps://www.aaavintageposters.com/wp...14-768x512.jpg https://www.aaavintageposters.com/wp...8-1024x683.jpghttps://www.aaavintageposters.com/wp...8-1024x683.jpg |
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I looked up the link you provided. I thought Billy Barty, in this photo, was hanging on to a ladder! This paragraph says differently and also who's holding it at the other end! In Mickey's Rescue, 1934, Mickey’s Kid Brudder (played by Billy Barty—the series cemented his movie fame as well) is adopted by a wealthy couple in order to further his education; Mickey and his gang attempt to locate his whereabouts. The short winds up with a “high-and-dizzy” climax in which Billy is holding on to dear life to a slide trombone outside an apartment window, with Hattie McDaniel on the other end! 44 years later wasn't Billy Barty hanging out a window in Foul Play with Goldie Hawn? ______ ETA: Yes, he was... https://www.picclickimg.com/y4AAAOSw...-Foul-Play.jpg |
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"Death Curve" of Washington Blvd, Venice?
I'm trying to locate where the "death curve" part of Washington Blvd. in Venice used to be located.
It's referred to here in 1914 as: "Washington Blvd. between "Death Curve" and the baseball park". "The baseball park" probably refers to Venice Park, where the Venice/Vernon Tigers once played, originally at Virginia and Washington so I'm guessing death curve refers to where current day Abbot Kinney is? Note: there's other mentions of Death Curve in 1910s Venice so it sounds like a stretch of road that locals would have known about even though it's not on any map. |
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They give us those nice bright colors Give us the greens of summers Makes you think all the world's a sunny day, oh yeah I got a Nikon camera I love to take a photograph So mama, don't take my Kodachrome away -Paul Simon, 1973 https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds Olive Ave. and Warner Blvd., Burbank.....photo courtesy wesclark.com. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds 6th and Hill, 1952.....courtesy fineartamerica.com. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds Unidentified street in Hollywood, 1947.....courtesy Univ. of Wisconsin Milwaukee Libraries. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds From tumblr.com.....the Market Basket was at 6298 W. 3rd St., it's now a Ross Dress for Less....I believe the photo was taken in the parking lot of Farmer's Market.... This one looks vaguely familiar, could be a re-post..... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds From blogspot.com, coming down the hill and headed south at Western and Franklin....the ram's head hood ornament indicates we are in a Dodge vehicle. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds Fisherman's Wharf, Redondo Beach....August 1953....courtesy flashbak.com. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds Crenshaw and Manchester, Inglewood....1956....from fineartamerica.com. The liquor store and Moby's Coffee Shop survive, although it appears Moby's has taken a portion of the liquor store, and their former space was converted to a 7-Eleven.... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds The remodeled Ralph's.... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds |
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Sadly, it looks like the white house with the gable roof was torn down recently. :( https://i.postimg.cc/PxST40HZ/Screen...4-10-16-PM.png https://i.postimg.cc/d0mq7LS5/Screen...4-05-42-PM.png |
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Growing up in New York City there were few Japanese. As I got older there were some weird experiences regarding Pearl Harbor. Here are some from the late 1970s.
One of my employers was the son of Mitsuo Fuchida who lead the attack on Pearl Harbor. His father survived the war and moved to America where he became something of a Christian missionary. His son would never talk about his father except that his father hated fish and enjoyed eating meat. There was a Japanese restaurant near our office that strangely resembled a Chinese restaurant. I should know as my wife is Japanese. Her father was a bomber pilot. One day I asked about the history of the restaurant and the owner explained they were ethnically Chinese but of Japanese nationality. Prior to the war the restaurant was a Japanese restaurant. After Pearl, overnight, it became Chinese and sometime after the war reverted to Japanese. The father of one of my consultants led a contingent of troops in France in WWI. He was an officer who originally acquired his commission with the Hawaiian National Guard. He was retired by th Army with the onset of WWII. The war years were very difficult for all Japanese in the Americas. None of this has anything to do with noir LA. Sorry. |
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https://i.postimg.cc/XJ9mC6kd/Todds-Multi.jpg The 1940 statement that the firm had at that time 35 years' experience sends me to the 1905 CD, where indeed we find Anna (seamstress) and Bertha Todd (laundress) at 454 N. Grand; but I haven't examined the CDs further, and I don't know if these clothing-related Todds are the Todds of the department store. |
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I stumbled across an amazing set of photos on Twitter taken in old Chinatown, courtesy of The Hungtington. They're from a set of glass plates that were discovered in the 1940s and only recently digitized.
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Does anyone remember the movie The Fireball (1950) where Mickey Rooney roller skates down Temple Street? https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/bA7vk2.jpg I thought we had discussed it on NLA but a search for "fireball" brings up nothing about the movie. :shrug: I also thought the scene would be on YouTube but I wasn't able to find it. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/QmuofY.jpg screengrab He looks like a fool. :haha: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/jgluPG.jpg screengrab Oh, and one last thing. Marilyn Monroe is in several scenes in The Fireball. One of her earliest screen appearances. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/BVmnY9.jpg I'm not sure who the dude in the middle is. Thanks for the follow-up on Todd's Department Store, odinthor. I appreciate it. :) . |
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