But can you remember it when it opened as El "Patio Ballroom?" Probably didn't keep that name very long.
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More tidbits here: http://www.100megspopup.com/ark/PalomarBlrm.html

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Circa 1930 - Wilshire and Western Things get interesting late in the day without electronic traffic controls.

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Try here if viewing difficulties: http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../16485/rec/506



Before the Wiltern
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Wiltern grows up.

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Time for a dip. The Gaylord in the backrground.

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Cant see, look here:
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Can't recall seeing this 1940 aerial of Mid-Wilshire. Further east or from a different altitude :previous: Landmarks, Bullocks Wilshire and the Sheraton Townhouse are easy to spot. If only the architecture could have been frozen as-is. Best resolution I could find.

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Here's er's photo again; it looks like there's something in the street inside the red square:
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Here's a closer look at the same area from another photo:
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USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/3936/rec/224

Was this a fountain? It reminds me a little of Lotta's Fountain in San Francisco.

Gosh Supply Sergeant, you did so much with the place!




Hollywood Supply Sergeant sign is a Hollywood icon. But the store facade before the Sergeant made camp at 6664 Hollywood Blvd was far different. If it's a question of camouflage to avoid detection, the Sarge has succeeded.


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Early '30s(?) C. H. Baker Shoes
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Pampas and Palms are both nice, but I prefer something around which I can get my arms. Palms. Wild, woolly, crew cut, shag or mullet. :treehugger:
Down to here. Down to there. Tall as I can grow it . . . palms. (ragni/rado/galt/cowsills)


1920s - Finley Avenue from Vermont (Los Feliz)

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Plaza Olivera Street - undated
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Undated - Vermont Ave. in Griffith Park
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Undated, no address
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Normandie to Griffith Park (Full of fronds to fall on Fords)
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1938 North Bedford, Hills of Beverly (?)
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1960 - Somewhere on Westmoreland "Street." (Did Goldilocks like garbage cans?)
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October '29 - Westmoreland "Avenue" and 10th Street. Magnifico.
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It's the Newmark Fountain.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=449

ProphetM, thanks very much for your reply. I'm going out of town this evening but will be back next month and will attempt to re-create this great nighttime shop. Much appreciated!

Thanks JS! Harris Newmark mentions the fountain's installation -- but not its demise -- in his Sixty Years in Southern California 1853-1913:

"In the spring of 1882, my attention had been called to the public need of proper facilities for obtaining a drink of good water; and no one else having moved in the matter, the following communication was sent, during the heated summer, to the City authorities:

Los Angeles,
August 25, 1882.

To the Honorable,
The Council of Los Angeles City:

Gentlemen:—

The undersigned hereby tender to the city a drinking fountain, as per the accompanying cut, to be placed on that portion of Temple Block fronting the junction of Main and Spring streets, for the free use of the public, and subject to the approval of your honorable body.

Respectfully,
H. Newmark & Co.

About the same time Stephen H. Mott, Secretary of the Los Angeles City Water Company, promised enough drinking water, free of charge, to supply the fountain.

The unpretentious gift having been accepted, the fountain was installed. The design included an iron pedestal and column, surmounted by a female figure of attractive proportions; while below, the water issued from the mouth of a lion's head. Though but seven feet in height and not to be compared with more ambitious designs seen here later, the fountain may have given some incentive to city service and adornment."

From -- http://www.gutenberg.org/files/42680...h.htm#Page_534

Radio Tour 1922
 

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"America's First Radio Tour" was a 1922 promotional trek to expose the rural West to the possibilities of RADIO. The tour began in Detroit and finished in Los Angeles, however the participants were particularly impressed with Nevada and spent three days in Austin, Nevada. The "radio equipped" Rickenbacker is shown above.

The car above is photographed in front of the Los Angeles Orphan's Home in Boyle Heights. This was when radio was a big deal.

http://www.radioblvd.com/nevradiohist.htm

Los Angeles Beer Wagon
 

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A sign on the Los Angeles Brewery proclaims Eastside to be 'the perfect brew.' The driver uses his broom to dust off the horses.

Looking west on Wilshire, the Professional Building says "Welcome to the Neighborhood."

Workers below, look like they could do for some "Eastside" and a good broom dust off. Giddy up!:previous:


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If this is looking northwards from Sixth and Main in about 1900, shouldn't we see the Pershing building on the SE corner of Fifth and Main? That is, unless that actually is it slightly to the right of center near the bottom of the frame. Even allowing for that, though, wasn't South Main a lot more developed, in 1900, than appears to be the case here?

The building sure does look familiar, as if it still exists and I've seen it IRL. Santa Monica does still boast quite a few pre-WWI structures in the business district, though very few as old as this building would have to be. I'm thinking Third Street, nowadays half-obscured by awnings and a trendy shop of some sort on the first floor.

From what I've been able to find in Google searches, there is only one commercial building in Santa Monica that dates to before the 1890s, and that is the 1875 Rapp Saloon on 2nd St. There is a church building and a couple of houses from the 1880s, but every other building still standing apparently dates from after this 1890 photo, so it would seem this building no longer exists.

:(

Here's the photo again:
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I'm going to stick my neck out and say this photo dates to 1882-1886. We're not only missing the Pershing Hotel/Charnock Block (1889) at Main & 5th, we're also missing the Hotel Alcazar (1888) on the NE corner of Main & Winston and the Hotel Westminster (1887) on the NE corner Main & 4th.

I'm pretty sure that the red circle marks the steeple of the First Presbyterian Church at 2nd and Fort/Broadway, the cornerstone for which was laid in February 1882 (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=2). And there's no City Hall (1888) tower just south of the church yet, either (http://losangelespast.blogspot.com/2...neties-la.html).

The cross-street in the foreground is definitely 5th. The three houses in the lower left corner of the photo correspond to those marked on the 1888 Sanborn Map below (in the photo, the building on the east side of Main with the covered sidewalk is at the SE corner of Main and Winston):
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Your reasoning makes sense, but could the date be as late as 1889 or sometime in the 90's? I had my doubts, as suggested by "?" Hellman's 1876-home was replaced by his Bank in '04 or '05, providing an outside limit. The chronology of most of these photos bears some scrutiny. The Westminster Hotel, across from the Hellman Home was recently covered here: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=15797


I W Hellman residence built in '76 at 5th and Main
~1877
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1887, Hellman's abode. Corner of Main and Fourth. From Roof of Westminster Hotel probably focusing on Fourth.

Can't see it? Go here: http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/3453/rec/526



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Circa 1889 (Look at second pic) Northerly view of Main Street from Fourth.

For those who can't view: http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/1448/rec/587

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Circa 1895
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Doesn't this look totally inviting?

The entrance to Hollywood Memorial Park (now Hollywood Forever Cemetery), circa 1940

Edit: I decided to delete the photo, as I did not get permission to use the photo. I don't wanna risk this wonderful thread being closed or deleted.

Hey great post, er! The wide variety of design was very interesting. That Vermont Avenue Square/Vermont Square thing must have been confusing back then, too. Out of all those ads, only the text in the top right corner of the first ad comes close to explaining VAS vs. VS.