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Thanks, ER for this great post and your follow-up on Bellevue Avenue. Can you provide a direct link to this particular 1897 map? I went to Historic Mapworks using your link but got lost! _______ |
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However, just becasue the street is not constructed doesn't mean that maps will always reflect the actual condition. |
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Here are a couple of posts on the coroner's office: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8125 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8137 |
:previous: I had forgotten how interesting the old coronoir's (thx for the new word belmont_bob) office is.
I sure wish 3940dxer was still around. WS1911, I'll try and find a new link to that 1897 map. __ |
While searching for more information on the long forgotten Edendale Meteor, I came across this fine photograph.
http://imageshack.us/a/img694/5872/5nkg.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/metrolibraryarchive/ sorry if it's been posted before. __ |
And we thought those backyard incinerators were bad!
http://imageshack.us/a/img585/2633/9zs.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/metroli...ve/8972231169/ Los Angeles Railway engineer John Dempsey in front of a newly installed incinerator at Vernon Yard 1929. __ |
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L.A. noir in the news
http://imageshack.us/a/img534/8947/mo59.jpg http://www.sacbee.com/2013/06/19/550...ollywoods.html __ |
Here is the correct link for the 1897 map WS1911.
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...and=calisphere http://imageshack.us/a/img90/3469/vo1.jpg enjoy! |
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The various types for sale are shown. Here's more on these noxious contraptions: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4828 http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6...cinerators.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps4a2ad085.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psf4424cf9.jpg |
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CBD, I never imagined the incinerators being sold like that. I pictured them in Sears. Were they sold in vacant lots like christmas trees?
kinda kidding...kinda not. :) __ |
More Charnock + 5th and Main environs
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http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7736bc8d.jpg This is the 1906 Sanborn Map from LAPL. The Charnock Block has expanded south to include 504-506 S. Main. The 1910 Baist Map (http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/19467/Plate+002/) identifies the building at 508-510 S. Main as the Hotel Rennie: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pscf4f4e98.jpg I couldn't find any close-up, street-level photos of the Charnock from its early days, and the aerial views, like this c. 1904 photo looking north on Main, seem to be from the same side of the street, so you only see the Charnock's roof and upper wall, which has the Lee Bros. wall sign. Note the Hotel Lexington; the flag flying from atop the hotel to its north is emblazoned Rosslyn. Across Main Street from the Lexington . . . is that the c. 1892 Post Office/Federal Building being demolished? We've seen that building here before, but I forget why it had such a short life. It's not on the 1888 or 1906 Sanborns, nor was it replaced by anything especially notable. http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psea38e3a6.jpg USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/3573/rec/41 This is a c. 1900-1909 (though later than the previous photo) view looking north on Main Street. The Lexington has become the Rosslyn, but no Baltimore Hotel (b. 1910) yet at the SW corner of 5th and Los Angeles (at the right edge of the photo). The King Edward Hotel is at the NW corner of 5th and Los Angeles, and the old round Panorama of the Battle of Paris building is still extant near the top center of the photo. http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psaac62c6d.jpg USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/3589/rec/42 Baltimore Hotel ahoy! There's no Rosslyn Annex on the SW corner of 5th and Main, so this must be a pre-1923 photo. The Charnock Block is the 2nd building west of the Baltimore on 5th Street. It looks like there was a balcony over the alley on the east side of the Charnock Block. http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps531a0729.jpg LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/spnb01/00007002.jpg I like this c. 1917 photo showing three iterations of Rosslyns (the big building with the rooftop sign being the third): http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps90db79c2.jpg USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/1454/rec/21 One more roof shot, from c. 1917. Presumably, the "5th & Main Drugs" sign is the same, though altered, as the "5th & Main Pharmacy" sign in my post with the 1911 night shots (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...stcount=15128). You can just barely see two of the rooftop skylights on the Charnock's southern addition: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2b44432f.jpg USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../17452/rec/265 1930. That corner office with the fireplace must have been nice: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps55b4127b.jpg LAPL -- http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics09/00014120.jpg 1965: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9acc65d4.jpg LAPL (William Reagh) -- http://jpg2.lapl.org/spnb1/00017170.jpg 1970 (I think I see some post-1970 cars, though): http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps17d51478.jpg LAPL (Victor Plukas) -- http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics09/00014125.jpg 1973: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps375ba9a0.jpg LAPL -- http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067397.jpg November 6, 1988. "Yvonne, a resident of the Pershing Hotel (located at 502 S. Main Street), has a lot to smile about: She'll soon come home to a renovated apartment. Marquee for hotel may be seen in the background." http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5986c7fb.jpg LAPL -- http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics40/00054939.jpg Entrance to Pershing Hotel, June 2013 (all color shots by me): http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psb55f1a74.jpg Wider view of Main Street frontage: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3bb2d0c7.jpg Second story detail. I hope they restore that chimney: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psd0dee624.jpg Looking southeast: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps985333be.jpg Fifth Street frontage: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps47f0244d.jpg As to the Charnock's restoration, I'm dubious as to how it will look with new construction sticking out of the top. All I can think of is the De Young Building in San Francisco (the one on Market Street, not the museum in Golden Gate Park). Yuck! |
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ER, thanks so much for this! It's the best L. A. map I've seen from this era. Too bad we can't download it in a large size or buy a printed version. _______ |
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Vista Hermosa Park, directly to the east of the site of Second Street Park. After Second Street Park reverted to real estate, Douglas was extended through the site from the north (apparently losing an "s" in the process): https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-N...23227%2BAM.jpg google maps Second Street Park, shown in 1897 as an empty trapezoid bounded by Lake Shore (Glendale), Colton, 1st and Toluca (below): https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p...14223%2BAM.jpg http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Fullscreen....and=calisphere |
Hi, everyone. I just discovered this place and have an interest in the "noirish" era of Los Angeles. Does anybody know of an online source for good maps of LA anytime between 1947-1956? Please forgive if I ask stupid questions. I'm trying to learn. I've had trouble finding decent maps of the period to help me follow along.
I've been reading this thread like crazy, but I have a lot of catching up to do. |
Welcome to 'noirish Los Angeles' DGMiller.
For a start, there are many maps available on line at the Los Angeles Public Library. http://www.lapl.org/collections-reso...map-collection I have a 1947 Los Angeles street map, so if you have a particular area in mind I can scan it for you. __ |
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Historic Map Works has a 1949 Rennie Atlas: http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sear...s+1949&x=0&y=0 and a 1956 Thomas Bros. Guide: http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sear...s+1956&x=0&y=0 |
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