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While attempting to find images of Second City Los Angeles
I happened upon this snapshot labeled "Al's Bar" It was included with photographs of Los Angeles so I surmise this is L.A. as well. (deductive reasoning skills, second to none ;)) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/4IJ6eU.jpg ANTI-CLUB PLACES / PINTEREST From the looks of the vehicles I'd say this is the late 1970s or early 80s . Does anyone recognize this building? I like how it's painted. I like the airplane too. _ |
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From Wikipedia: Al's Bar was a Los Angeles bar in the American Hotel that served as a gathering spot for that era's downtown art and music scenes. At the time of its closing [2001], it was primarily known as the West Coast's oldest punk club, but over the years it regularly hosted theater plays, art exhibitions, and "No Talent Nights".The American Hotel still stands at 303 S Hewitt Street (sans airplane). http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icanHotel1.jpg GSV |
:previous: What happened to the nice paint job!?
I remember seeing this place in the early days of nla. If I remember correctly, we visited the building across Huitt street. __________________ The person who posted the Al's Bar pic also posted this one. "Club 88 one of L.A's first punk clubs" https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Rj4JPk.jpg ANTI-CLUB PLACES / LOS ANGELES Do any former punk rockers visit nla? Maybe they can tell us about the place. Are you a former punk rocker Hoss? ;) _ |
I just found another image with the hanging airplane.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/uADNuT.jpg ANGELFIRE I wonder what the plane signified? :shrug: _ |
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I was scared of them. (the punks)
They seemed batshit-crazy in the 1980s. ..but I'm sure they were very nice people beneath the mohawks and safety pinned skin. |
I was surprised to find the hanging airplane in the Los Angeles Library archives.
Da plane, da plane! https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/QAs9RW.jpg Gary Leonard LAPL "Artist's project at Al's Bar, Tracton & Hewitt, downtown Los Angeles." 8-16-86. (Artist's name is illegible) :previous: 1986? that other pic said 1982. :shrug: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Q7Tpwu.jpg Gary Leonard LAPL I believe that's a real airplane. _ |
Now let's venture back in time.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/FqbU5d.jpg EBAY "Original Circa 1902 Tin Type Photo Shoot the Chute Los Angeles Chutes Park ?" This has to be pretty rare, right? The date. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/TnIPNe.jpg a closer look at the two gentlemen if you will. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/FG53MN.jpg Do you think the slide is a backdrop or are the two men actually outside in front of the chutes lagoon? I believe it's a backdrop. THEN WHY DID I ASK THE QUESTION :duh |
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e_r, as for the significance of it . . . Ummmm . . . ummm . . . because the artist liked doing things like that? [odinthor fails Art class exam]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dustin_Shuler |
:previous: Thanks for the information odinthor.
Dustin Shuler has additional photographs of his art project HERE HERE'S AN EXAMPLE https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/waZjeA.jpg DUSTIN SHULER He named the project “Pinning the Butterfly". (note the pin) |
Whoa Nellie
"1915 PANAMA CALIFORNIA EXPO SAN DIEGO LOS ANGELES FERRY BOAT NELLIE OLD PHOTO" https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/eYaEvT.jpg EBAY It only makes sense there were special ferries running between Los Angeles and San Diego during the 1915 Panama-Pacific Expostion but as you can see 'Nellie' is pretty small. I imagine there were numerous ferries running the L.A. to S.D. route. This photograph is being sold separately. "PIER SAILBOATS VINTAGE PHOTO 1915 PANAMA CALIFORNIA EXPO SAN DIEGO LOS ANGELES" https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/XF51sK.jpg EBAY This must be the pier where 'Nellie' docked in San Diego. (pic is by the same tourist) _ |
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I've never been to Club 88, but I went to Al's Bar a number of times (maybe 12-15 times in total?). I never saw the hanging airplane, which was apparently before my time - early to mid 80s, while I never went to Al's until maybe '91 or '92. I didn't go often enough to become a "regular", so I didn't know any of the bartenders by name, or anything like that. The last time I was there, which must have been in 2001, I was on a date with a nice Jewish girl and my buddy was with his Italian girlfriend (later his wife, now his ex-wife). They had tricycles in the bar, the girls had a good time riding the tricycles around. Prior to Al's Bar, we had all gone for sushi here on Central and Second, although I believe it was a different restaurant at the time. Speaking of some roughly similar downtown joints, anybody else here used to go to... Gorky's, on the corner of San Julian and 8th? The place is long gone, but the sign is still there: https://i.imgur.com/zhPoxVN.jpgyou-are-here https://i.imgur.com/PVKPnuw.jpgGSV ... or how about the Atomic Cafe, on the southwest corner of First and Alameda? https://i.imgur.com/0lphZos.jpgavanishingworld https://i.imgur.com/PAs9U2D.jpgGSV |
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Club 88 memories
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I also remember getting onto the stage to set up and seeing up above the proscenium the sign "NO COVERS." This meant "don't play any songs that you don't own performance rights for." Well, this was a fine kettle of fish. We played a mix of covers and originals, but we certainly didn't have enough originals to fill a set! So we just went ahead anyway, hoping they wouldn't be familiar with our covers. Fortunately, they weren't, and the show came off just fine. |
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Unfortunately the news media latched onto a depiction of punks as violent, angry, and virulently antisocial. Of course what happened next is that a lot of violent, angry and virulently antisocial young people (mostly male) thought that's what being punk was all about and they invaded in droves. It was kind of a shocking lesson in the power of indolent distortion in news reporting to change the world. The other thing I remember about the early punks is that the girls had a distinct dress code - lots of lace, lots of crucifixes. When Madonna first started getting famous, she "borrowed" heavily from that look (without ever acknowledging where she got the idea). The punk girls were mortified and changed their look overnight. I really don't recall seeing a lot of safety pins among the LA punks. That may have been more a British punk thing. |
Probably of interest to no one but myself...but what the heck. I just discovered today that there's some major changes going on at the southeast corner of the Sunset Las Palmas Studios lot (formerly Hollywood Studios, Inc., Jasper Hollywood Studios, Metropolitan Sound Studio, General Service Studios Hollywood, Hollywood General Studios, Zoetrope Studio, Hollywood Center Studios).
https://78.media.tumblr.com/03eb235b...rtso3_1280.jpg https://78.media.tumblr.com/623424b3...rtso2_1280.jpg https://78.media.tumblr.com/26d2c5c2...rtso1_1280.jpg Probably a good thing, as it looks like the former buildings were not exactly earthquake-safe. I wonder if those adjacent stages are plastic-wrapped to protect from dust, or are they MFD? (I love this lot mostly because Green Acres and The Addams Family were filmed here.) |
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Could this be your band? https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/GEFgVJ.jpg SWS/flickr were you ever that skinny? ;) ____ |
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