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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7030657)

:previous: Yeah, that's the place I was thinking about t2, but it doesn't look like the right setting does it? We need a flat rooftop.

'mystery' location.

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:previous: Interesting information, even if it is in French.

So does anyone know where did Mr. Boyer lived during his time in Hollywood? -and who is this Pat?

That said, I have no idea about the black silhouette that appears on the front and back of the photograph.
-if you squint, it looks like Charles Boyer if he didn't have a nose.;)

Pat is Boyer's wife, Pat Paterson, a British actress. They were married 44 years and two days after her death from cancer Boyer committed suicide with an overdose of Seconal.

:previous: So very sad.

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It gets sadder. I was rabbiting on in a P.S. to my last post, not realizing the page had turned.

Here's the short version:
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Holy Cross Cemetery, Culver City
pix: find-a-grave

Looking at the other end of New York Ave, the opposite end from the Verdugo Lodge stone arch, there is a very nice stone barn:
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It seems a Georges Louis Mesnager (Mes-song-jay) immigrated here from the town of Mayenne in the Loire Valley in 1866. He returned to France to fight in the Franco-Prussian War in 1870 and was devastated at the disastrous French loss:
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Returning to Los Angeles he married a lady from Spain, Conception Deolara, and had four children. After first working for French immigrant winemakers, Vache Freres, Mesnager and a partner, Pierre Durancette, invested in vineyards, a wholesale wine and liquor business and eventually opened Sunny Side Winery at W 2nd and Los Angeles Streets, one of dozens in Los Angeles. Vache Freres moved to Redlands. The new partners advertised themselves as the Vache's successors with an establishment date of 1860.

In 1886 the partners bought land in Dunsmore Canyon, at the top of New York Avenue, for a vineyard.

In 1892 Conception died suddenly leaving Georges with four children. !893 brought further disaster. Mesnager and Durancette's liquor license had lapsed and they may have been using illegal tax stamps. As punishment their entire stock from both the wholesale business and the winery was confiscated. All but wiped out, the partnership was dissolved. Mesnager carried on alone, leasing the Dunsmore Canyon property to another French vintner and concentrating on his other interests. He was a notary, a multilingual court translator, mortgage lender, editor of a French-language newspaper, "Le Progres" and had a French grocery at Los Angeles and Commercial Streets. He also married again, this time to a French woman, Marie du Grey, and had one more child. Mesnager eventually regained his liquor license and opened a new winery, the Old Hermitage, at 1623 N Main at Mesnager Street, on land he owned near the family home, with a store on the corner. It was two blocks south of the Cornfield and two blocks west of the river:
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Bottling and sales were contracted out to Hans Jevne, the Norwegian-born, high-class grocer:
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In 1898 Mesnager bought Anacapa Island for $8K as a place to raise sheep.

By 1900, Dunsmore Canyon was back under family control. Eldest son Louis had returned from being educated in Switzerland (Mesnager sent his sons to Switzerland to be educated and his daughters to the Marlborough School) and set about improving Dunsmore Canyon. One project was to build a stone barn to store and sort the grapes. Planned in 1904, the second floor was finished in 1918. Louis also reorganized the G.L. Mesnager Company and managed the winery and other interests.

At the outbreak of WWI, Georges transferred ownership of the company to his wife and charged Louis with looking after the business before leaving to fight for France, hoping to avenge the loss of the Franco-Prussian War. He was 64 years old. Too aged to be an officer, he enlisted as a private, famously the oldest soldier in the French army. He was wounded five times, once, it is said, when an explosive shell threw him 50 feet. He was sent home to Los Angeles in 1917 to recover, but was then called back to be the French army's liaison to General Pershing's command, the perfect job for the doubly loyal dual-national.

Lieutenant Mesnager returned to the United States in 1919 aboard La Lorraine, covered in glory and medals, including the Croix de Guerre and the Legion of Honor:
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The stone barn as it looked on Georges' return:
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Prohibition changed the G.L. Mesnager Company's focus to growing table grapes and making non-alcoholic drinks. The winery equipment was taken to Dunsmore Canyon for storage.

Georges suffered strokes in 1921. He and his wife returned to the family home in Mayenne, for his recovery, but he never saw California again. Georges died, in the house where he was born, in 1923. Glowing obits were written on both sides of the Atlantic. (Note: Mayenne was heavily bombed by Allied planes on June 9, 1944 to dislodge its German army occupiers)

The end of Prohibition coincided with the massive fires which swept the San Gabriels in 1933 (and made the 1934 flood so much worse). The losses in Dunsmore Canyon were catastrophic, the barn reduced to a shell. The first post-Repeal harvest had been processed in the winery, now set up in the barn. 20,000 gallons of wine and 1,500 gallons of brandy stain the ground:
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Louis made a good living leasing the water rights he owned in Dunsmore and Cook canyons, as well as from other interests. He repaired the stone barn, changing the roofline, and, after remodeling the second floor into a residence, moved his family in in 1937. They stayed until 1960:
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The property was next leased to a private equestrian center and then stood empty:
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glendale pl

After a close call with developers, the City of Glendale bought the property for a wilderness park (with a huge assist from the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy). The barn almost burned again during the 2009 Station Fire, but was saved by firefighters. There's a wine-making museum planned for the stone barn. An amphitheater and other amenities are now on the grounds:
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A flood control dam and debris basin are now adjacent to the site. Access has been changed from New York Ave to Markridge Rd. The barn is not listed.

Vines have again been planted and small amounts of wine are produced on site:
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stone barn vineyard conservancy

There's nothing left of the Mesnager Los Angeles holdings. Mesnager(s) Street still exists, but no longer intersects with Main:
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Mayfair Apartments, 40 St. James Park, Los Angeles.

I thought I had posted about this beautiful apartment building before on NLA,
but I could only find the Mayfair Apts. on Wilcox http://www.skyscraperpage.com/forum/...ostcount=21221
and the historic Mayfair on 7th Street http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20559

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It still stands, but almost all of it's impressive features have disappeared. :(

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A few of the details are still intact.

above the front porch (clearly visible in the vintage photo)
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and along the cornice (also visible in the vintage photo)
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The building next door appears to be from the same time period. (could this be a later annex?)

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the two buildings look like they might be attached
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I just found this as well.

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http://beforeusc.tumblr.com/post/726...ames-park-this

Even if I have posted about this building before; it deserves a second look.
I'd love to see someone buy it, and bring it back to it's original splendor.

:previous:

The Mayfair was built by William Wylie Johnston, who lived next door at 38 St. James Park; the apartment building to the Mayfair's west was the St. Lawrence.

More here:
http://stjamesparklosangeles.blogspo...histories.html

Has anyone heard of The Golden Butterfly before?

"View of the Golden Butterfly establishment in Santa Monica Canyon below Adelaide Drive, circa. 1916."

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"below Adelaide Drive" makes me think we're looking southeast, and the Golden Butterfly was probably located somewhere along Channel Road or Entrada Drive.

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'mystery' location.

Pea-size hail along Hollywood Boulevard, April 15, 1949.

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Does anyone know what building once housed the Blue Palm Café/Cocktails?

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7030985)

Hepburn wears Flato in 1938 film, Holiday.
So does model Jinx Falkenburg. (523 N.Cahuenga, per '42CD)

I don't know much about her, but I come across the name Jinx Falkenburg quite often. She seems to be one of the most accomplished and famous women of her times, but that hardly anyone knows now.

I just looked up a bit about her. She got her name from her mother who thought the nickname Jinx would bring her good luck. Why she thought that I do not know, but the name stuck, apparently.

Her and her family members were known for their athleticism, particularly swimming and tennis. (Her brother won the 1948 men's singles title at Wimbledon.)

Jinx was also a very sought after model and an actress, though almost none of her films are known today. Such as:
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The ads proclaimed: "Sing and dance out those kinks with that joyous minx...Jinx!"

The most famous film she was in, where she had a cameo as herself, was Cover Girl, with Rita Hayworth. She volunteered and toured extensively with USO shows during World War II. She was often mentioned in the society pages and gossip columns. She often volunteered at the Hollywood Canteen. She married in 1945 and she and her husband moved to New York where they had a very successful radio program titled "Hi, Jinx." They both moved to television and had their own early form of talk show.

:previous: Thx, nice to see a building maintained and even improved. Between that apartment building across from Paramount and e_r's Mayfair Apartments I was feeling kind of glum about the way we treat things

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7031430)

I come across the name Jinx Falkenburg quite often. She seems to be one of the most accomplished and famous women of her times,
but that hardly anyone knows now.

Here's on of my favorite photographs of Ms. Falkenburg.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/B5xBKY.jpg
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/ne...photo/50450563

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7029845)

:previous:

Another picture looking at the Main Street side of this block (as seen in e_r's picture). The full version of the image below was posted by Flyingwedge in post #15394. It shows the backs of the old Atlantic and Pacific Hotel buildings, with the Sentous block being demolished in the foreground. It's dated 1957.

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Detail of picture in Huntington Digital Library

Such a heartbreaking shot. I'm sure many of you knew this already, but I just caught on to the fact that the northern stretch of Spring Street was once called San Fernando St. So, the ghost sign on the side of the Sentous must have been advertising a business that was located within that very building at 620 San Fernando St. I can't really make out the rest of the sign beyond the address. Does anyone else know what it said?

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Originally Posted by Tetsu (Post 7031526)

I'm seeing 'Packers', 'Wholesale', 'Fresh or Smoked Meats', 'Cold Storage' and the address '620 San Fernando St.' and down lower 'Lead the World'

Some Hall of Justice love. Let's revisit it. It of course is the oldest extant government building in the Los Angeles Civic Center, opened in 1925.

Actor Robert Mitchum steps out of the Los Angeles Hall of Justice March 30, 1949, after having served a 50-day jail sentence on marijuana charges.
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Have any of you guys explored the now-restored Hall of Justice? They've done a beautiful job, I think. Here are a few pictures I took of it, on a Sunday in December 2014.

They really cleaned up the decades of grime that had collected on the granite.
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Photo by me

You would think that these steps were always here. This is on the east side of the building; for the longest time it was a surface parking lot.
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Being that it was a Sunday, the building was closed. But I did snap a picture of the lobby through the glass doors.
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A bit of black and white.
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From the LAPL, 1924. You can see the reinforced concrete walls, and the stacks of granite to be applied as a veneer.
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1924 Civic Center aerial. How densely packed downtown was, pre-freeways, and pre-parking lots! I love it. A walkable downtown it truly was. Or am I romanticizing? I guess there's that one parking lot catty-corner to the Hall of Justice. Or is that a service station?
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1928, crowd at the William Hickman, child killer trial.
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City Hall under construction, 1927.
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Fort Moore Hill and Hall of Justice, 1950. There's the east side of the Hall of Justice, where the new steps now exist.
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Santa Ana Freeway construction near the Hall of Justice, 1951
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Four Manson girls outside the Hall of Justice, 1971. Doesn't the one on the far right kinda look like Bridget Fonda?
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Hall of Justice, 1920s, showing the east side.
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7030612)

"Women boxing on a Los Angeles rooftop, 1933."

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'bacchus213' at https://www.pinterest.com/pin/356628864215919322/

:previous: It would certainly be fun to try and locate this rooftop, despite the lack of clues.

I asked myself; "Where would you find a group of young ladies on a rooftop?"
Could it possibly be a Y.W.C.A?....or perhaps that boarding house in Hollywood for young female starlets (I can't remember it's name or location)

That said, the poor brunette is getting KO'ed!

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Deja Vu? I could swear we've seen this here before. There was another photo
from the opposite direction that showed a small water tank, or a swamp cooler on the other end of the roof where this photo was taken from.
It may have even had an odd saucer shape.

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