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At this point, the only thing holding it back is more gates, which is going to be fixed over the next few years. We should consider ourselves really lucky the planners at O'Hare redid the runways to have six parallel segments. It's going to pay dividends in the future. I flew out of Heathrow on Tuesday to Milan, and I couldn't believe they only have TWO parallel runways there. That's it..... One runway for landings - One for takeoffs. For an airport with that kind of gravity, it shocked me. Now I know why people hate flying through Heathrow. O'hare is positioned to continue to add flights, and expand hubs without worrying about sacrificing the customer experience. |
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Chicago (and most American airports) need to invest more in retail and dining options as a source of revenue instead of relying so heavily on passenger and parking fees. The problem is all the existing O'Hare terminals pre-date this trend and don't have room for more shops and restaurants. Hopefully the new terminals are built with more emphasis on this. The T5 expansion seems to have done so. Asian airports have taken this to the extreme and they're basically 90% shopping mall 10% airport... I am not advocating for that but rather somewhere in the middle.. like most European airports. |
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So now that Terminal 5 extension is completed, what are the next steps? I recall the plan is to build Satellite 1 and Satellite 2 concourses of the new terminal, before actually closing and demolishing Terminal 2 to give way to the new global terminal.
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We are still probably 3-4 years away before T2 gets demo'd. The city hasn't been very forthcoming with project/timeline updates beyond recently acknowledging that it ain't gonna be done by 2028, thats for sure. |
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Have we seen renderings of the SOM designed satellite terminals? When will renderings of the revised design for terminal 2 by Studio Gang be released?
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Back After 30+ Years: Air Serbia Reveals New Belgrade-Chicago Service
“ Air Serbia has added Chicago as its second US route and it is now bookable. It'll begin in May and will join the existing Belgrade-JFK. Chicago was last served by JAT, Air Serbia's predecessor, in 1991 using the DC-10. The first Chicago flight by Air Serbia will be on May 17th, with 2 weekly flights. It'll rise to 3 weekly from June 12, in time for the peak summer; it is, after all, a summer-seasonal market.” Belgrade-Chicago: JU506, Wednesdays 06:50-10:50; Mondays 12:50-16:50; Saturdays 17:20-21:20 Chicago-Belgrade: JU507, Wednesdays 12:40-05:30+1; Mondays 18:40-11:30+1; Saturdays 23:10-16:00+1 https://simpleflying.com/air-serbia-...chicago-route/ |
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1. Satellite 1 2. Global Terminal (including pedestrian tunnel from GT-S1) 3. Satellite 2 (including people mover from GT-S1-S2) You mentioned in a previous post the “city” has not been very forthcoming with the timeline, which makes me wonder if this project is managed by the city of Chicago or the federal government? Or is it that the federal government allocates the money but it’s the city in charge of the construction? |
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Speaking of which, Lightfoot has plastered herself all over the damn airport. Between large banners with her face saying welcome to Chicago to announcements by her over the loudspeakers. It's pretty cringe regardless of your political views. |
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Massive O'Hare project clears last hurdle
“The big terminal modernization and expansion plan at O'Hare International Airport has been officially cleared for takeoff. Under the latest plan, two new remote satellite terminals will be the first to open, in 2027 and 2028, off the existing Terminal 1, where most United Airlines flights are located. Once that is done, full-scale work will begin on the centerpiece of the project: the demolition and reconstruction of Terminal 2, which will be converted into a combined domestic and international terminal.” https://www.chicagobusiness.com/poli...s-faa-approval |
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https://chicagoyimby.com/2022/11/con...l-airport.html Some SOM renderings of the satellite terminals https://chicagoyimby.com/wp-content/...-2048x1020.png https://chicagoyimby.com/wp-content/...-2048x1020.png |
I think those are still the placeholder renders from a few years ago? It will be interesting to see when/if they release the renderings of the SOM satellite terminals.
An overall project increase of 4billion dollars before shovels hit the ground. A lot of expense accounts and office parties in the last few years since the current estimate. I wonder if there is any chance the final price tag will be kept under 20billion when the ribbon cutting happens. |
Yeah, we've already seen those renderings before. They were from SOM's Global Terminal proposal. I wonder when we will get newer renderings, especially if they are going to be breaking ground soon on the first satellite concourse.
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Maybe the cases of people traveling on Southwest only to catch a United flight to Munich may be rare, but I know I've logged such trips before. As long as you ask any travelers to make cumbersome multi-hour connections it can't be considered a first class airport. |
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An airside connection to T5 would be nice but it's not necessary since most people will be traveling on the same alliance. Anybody who is not will more than likely know to leave extra connection time to re-clear at another terminal.
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Arrived at T5 the other day from St. Maarten, gated at M33 (very far end), and while the walk was indeed long it wasn't really out of the ordinary. The tunnel I thought was pretty modern/nice looking, just needs a little flair of color/decor here and there. It'll age better than the new T1/T2/T3 tunnels connecting to the Blue Line. There were multiple staff politely guiding people where to go. Lines were all short. Lightfoot announcements continue to be cringe.
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^ Are you referring to the tunnel/hallway that connects the new T5 extension with the old T5 building? I wouldn’t really call that a tunnel though.
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The annex is a vast improvement over the rest of T5, even if it feels like a rushed C- grade design of an architect trying to poorly copy every other large-ceiling 21st century airport design. The physical space and natural light make everything feel relaxed and bright, a stark contrast to the rest of T5. But the annex just feels weird in comparison to the rest of T5 because there is no flow between them. It's obviously better to have more modern space than not, but overall this may be a theme of new O'Hare circa-2035; great to be upsized to meet 21st century travel demands in gates and new expected amenities, however all of O'Hare will have a hodgepodge Frankenstein feel of misfit connected parts. |
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Agree that O'Hare is definitely a hodgepodge Frankenstein though, and I don't see that getting much better until the whole revamp is complete in ~10 years. Completing the project without reducing capacity/impacting operations just necessitates everything be done piecemeal. |
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My only gripe continues to be the security checkpoints, but I still suspect that is still being worked on (as with concessions, etc). |
Arrived from Dubai on Monday afternoon and customs was a shit show......
Although it didn't feel like so much a problem of lack of stations to get through as it was an issue of lack of agents. More frustrating is it seemed like many of the agents had no incentive to get folks through, were joking around, etc. Not sure if this is a problem in other airports.... I would assume this is something that won't get too much TLC in the short-term since the global terminal will occupy more international arrivals in the future. Also agree with some previous posts about getting to CTA from T5. There doesn't seem to be good signage signaling people on where exactly to go. Would love to see O'Hare invest a few pennies to direct people. |
Arrived yesterday at T3 and noticed two things that were infuriating. . . homeless people are allowed to lounge around inside the terminal baggage pickup areas. . . no one seemed to notice them except me. . . also the curb side Nazis are fucking useless and should be moved inside to deal with the homeless. . . why they're out there telling people to move along while loading and picking up is utterly ridiculous. . . [/rant]
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Of course moving violations get authorities revenue while lost or stolen luggage is of minimal consequences to them. |
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You step off the plane and are greeted by large banners of a grinning Lori Lightfoot. You hear overhead announcements by Lightfoot talking about how Chicago is the greatest city in the world. As you make your way to the CTA station you pass a number of panhandlers and homeless sleeping in the tunnels connecting the station to the terminals, making sure to dodge the buckets scattered around collecting water from the leaking roof. Then you enjoy the sights and smells of the Blue Line as you slowly crawl to the Loop in a 40 year old L car that looks every bit it's age. It's one hell of a first impression. Ok, maybe that's a slight exaggeration but as someone who has taken over 30 flights out of O'Hare this year it ain't too far off. It's just very frustrating as someone who loves the place and wants it to be better but nobody seems to give a shit. |
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Wow, that's terrible. I've flown in and out of O'hare about a half dozen times this year and haven't seen any homeless. I almost never check bags, but I do pass the baggage claim areas since I am using the blue line to get to/from the airport.
Hopefully this issue is corrected, and ASAP. The airport is going to be someone's first impression of Chicago. Homelessness is not the image we want to project. |
General curiosity for those who frequent O'Hare, what are your thoughts now that the ATS is fully running this many months later?
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I haven't taken the ATS to the car rental center, but it doesn't look terribly far from the terminals when looking at a map. At Miami airport, depending on your arrival terminal, you may have to take two trains to eventually reach their car rental center, the SkyTrain (or the MIA E train if you are in Concourse E) from your gate/terminal to the main terminal, and then the MIA mover to the car rental center. Its a few minutes walk between the stations as well.
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