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santamonicadesign Feb 1, 2021 9:47 PM

Regarding Clark and Hilldale...
 
I can't believe no one remembered the old Love/Arthur Lee song from 1967... Between Clark and Hilldale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwnyoH5DpNE

HossC Feb 1, 2021 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9177057)

mystery location

Does anyone know where, in Hollywood, this horseshoe park was located?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/qHO7zs.jpg
shermangrindberg

The 1931 CD places the Hollywood Horse Shoe Club at 5627 Hollywood Boulevard. It's the only appearance I could find. The 1929 CD has Hollywood Durant-Star Motors Inc at 5610 Hollywood Boulevard, which I think is the business across the street in the screengrab above.

odinthor Feb 1, 2021 10:43 PM

:previous:

We're I believe at Hollywood and Gramercy . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/KYTkjQ8X/Hollyw...d-Gramercy.jpg
gsv

The horseshoe venue would have been on the lot to our right in the pic, the car dealership across the street on the lot ahead with the tower.

CaliNative Feb 2, 2021 4:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9177057)
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mystery location

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/BhGXoX.jpg


The following images are from a short newsreel dated 12 / 25 / 1929. (go to shermangrindberg and type in "horseshoes")



Does anyone know where, in Hollywood, this horseshoe park was located?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/qHO7zs.jpg
shermangrindberg






As you'll see there are numerous signs for clues.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/QYvg8W.jpg
shermangrindberg

Note the two gentleman enjoying a game of chess.











https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/GdWNNa.jpg
shermangrindberg

The ad with the all seeing eye and horseshoe looks like something out of the occult.







https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Vn9G9M.jpg
shermangrindberg


I believe I've shown you all sides of the park.

Now go find it sleuths! :whip:



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I bet there was a lot of wagering going on. The 1929 crash had recently happened, so some of these guys may have been recently laid off and had lots of free time and still some money left for bets. :yes:

Horseshoes can be dangerous, especially in the hand of kids. I had an aunt who in jr. high school in the 1920s in P.E. class was hit on the head by an errant shoe. It probably fractured her skull, but she recovered. But her behavior changed and she became a compulsive liar and sometimes picked fights. She lived to a ripe old age of 99 and passed only ten years ago. She was always good to me. Very good cook and housekeeper. Lived in Northridge for many years. Married and had two kids. Lived her last couple of decades in Oregon. Never played horseshoes again as far as I know.

Lwize Feb 2, 2021 6:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by santamonicadesign (Post 9177126)
I can't believe no one remembered the old Love/Arthur Lee song from 1967... Between Clark and Hilldale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwnyoH5DpNE

I remember. Still have the album too.

badrunner Feb 2, 2021 7:42 AM

Hill Street, 1961, colorized:

Video Link

Mstimc Feb 2, 2021 3:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 9176859)
https://i.postimg.cc/NGWwtS46/WAD1815-GSV-bmp.jpg


A demolition permit for this 1909 Craftsman at 1815 West Adams Boulevard, seemingly well-cared for, was issued last August. Perhaps if anyone in LA is covid-bored, lives nearby and/or needs to get out of the house, he or she might want to check to see if this has happened yet. It will probably be replaced by the type of multi-unit building for which houses like this one are rapidly being bulldozed. It sold for $820,000 in July 2019.

More pictures here https://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angele...8/home/6897982

Shameful. Craftsman style has always been my favorite for home design. It just seems to lend itself to being lived in, if that makes sense.

Bristolian Feb 2, 2021 4:04 PM

:previous:
:previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by badrunner (Post 9177579)
Hill Street, 1961, colorized:

Great film! At the beginning, the camera passes United Sporting Goods on the right. They had a location in Lawndale that existed into the '80s, I believe. I was unaware of any other locations. It was a 99¢ Store for years and now the interesting old building sits vacant.

https://i.imgur.com/4Jp1Qnw.png?2

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 5:04 PM

What is happening and how have you been

Quote:

Originally Posted by santamonicadesign (Post 9177126)
I can't believe no one remembered the old Love/Arthur Lee song from 1967... Between Clark and Hilldale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwnyoH5DpNE
_________________________________________________________________


Would you believe I've never heard of this? !!!


Gotta go but I'll see you again.

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 7:08 PM

In doing the Hilldale to Clark posts the last week, I ended up with some other things that came to my attention while doing it and so here's some other odds and ends:


The NBC Radio City building at Sunset & Vine was demolished in 1964. Before the Home Savings and Loan building that replaced it was built, the area was a huge vacant lot. A few 1965 views of the location from Ed Ruscha:

https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...12/1965-82.jpg
https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...12/1965-83.jpg
https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...12/1965-84.jpg
https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...12/1965-85.jpg

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 7:11 PM

In those recent posts about the Sunset Strip block there were two photos with Dwayne Hickman and Yvonne Lime, c. 1960, by the Hamburger Hamlet and The Handlebar.

That photo shoot had two other photos in nearby locations. One was Cyrano.
(Pauline Gallagher's on the right.)

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/...1MjI@._V1_.jpgIMDB

Cyrano was located at 8711 Sunset Boulevard.

Here's another photo, dated 1956, with Roger Moore and an unidentified gentleman at Cyrano.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/...1MjI@._V1_.jpgIMDB


A 1973 photo. (Eriks on the right.)

https://m.psecn.photoshelter.com/img...XcUBF9bcMg.jpgHollywoodPhotographs


An 8 second youtube video

Video Link

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 7:12 PM

The other photo of Hickman and Lime was taken at La Cienega Lanes on Santa Monica Blvd. at La Cienega Blvd. c. 1960

https://dowr580i1gdmf.cloudfront.net...0426183454.jpgMPTVImages

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 7:13 PM

A nighttime image dated 1982 of The Raincheck Room that has been previously discussed, but not many photos.

https://dowr580i1gdmf.cloudfront.net...0511175441.jpgMPTVIMages

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 7:17 PM

In 2016 I did a post about some businesses at 8795 Sunset Blvd., entrance on Horn (1114 Horn Ave.)
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ostcount=37550

...writing:

It used to be a Spanish style residence before John Walsh turned it into the Cafe Gala in September of 1941. He sold it to Jimmy Dolan in 1948 and it was open well into the 1950's. By 1957 it was the Har-Omar and featured something exotic called "Cuisine Fantasia." By 1969 it was a Russian-Armenian restaurant called Kavkaz. It became Spago's in 1982, made famous by Wolfgang Puck and agent Swifty Lazar's annual Oscar parties. Spago's decided to move to Beverly Hills in 2001 and, as far as I know, the space has been vacant ever since.


No one's ever found a photo of the business as Café Gala or most of the other iterations like Har-Omar. In looking through Ed Ruscha's photos of the Sunset Strip recently, I found another restaurant that was located at this address: The St. Genesius Restaurant. We know Har-Omar was there by 1957 and Kav Kaz was there from at least 1969-1973.


Ed Ruscha's photos are from 1966:

https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...2020/12/64.jpg

https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...2020/12/65.jpg

https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...2020/12/66.jpg


I was watching some episodes of the 1963-66 series Amos Burke and he would travel down Sunset Blvd. occasionally. I recently saw an episode where he was riding at night past a sign which I made out to be a place called Knife & Fork. A search didn't provide any information, but tooling down Sunset Blvd. in the Ruschamobile, right after I passed the St. Genesius Restaurant I came upon this:

1966
https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...2/67.jpg?ssl=1
https://i3.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...2020/12/68.jpg

It appears the Knife & Fork was the restaurant part of the Sands Motor Hotel at 8777 Sunset Blvd.

1965

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMoqg5WU...jpg&name=smallVLATwitter

https://twitter.com/alisonmartino/st...873472/photo/1

This Mo(tor Ho)tel took up quite a lot of space.

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 7:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9163610)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9163513)
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[...]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/smnbpn.jpg
ebay

the restaurant next door on the right is. . .um . . .gaiety(?)
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I got the following from a website that had posted some oral histories of musicians and the like about Hollywood in the 1960's. This one from Don Randi, a songwriter and member of the group The Wrecking Crew, talks about a lot of the eateries frequented back then. No details, but Gaiety is mentioned and a lot of others name dropped.
[...]
“Neil Young, Jack Nitzsche and I would go out to places like the Gaiety Delicatessen."[Text Quotes Copyright 2020 Harvey Kubernik]
_________________________________________________________________

In the above post I thought the Gaiety might be referring to the location next to Dot records, but in traveling Sunset with the Ruschamobile, I discovered there was another Gaiety, in 1966 at least, at 9043 Sunset Blvd.

https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...2020/12/18.jpg

By 1973 it was jd's Restaurant-Deli
https://media.getty.edu/iiif/image/8.../0/default.jpg

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 8:17 PM

FYI:

The Getty Center, which now houses Ed Ruscha's photographs, now has this link called:
12 Sunsets: Exploring Ed Ruscha's Archive.

The "12 Sunsets" refers to the 12 times (years) Ed Ruscha photographed Sunset Blvd. Those years are:
1965, 1966, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1985, 1990, 1995, 1997, 1998, 2007.

You can choose one year or multiple years at once and tool up and down the boulevard in your choice of a Volkswagen Beetle, a Volkswagen Van or a pick-up truck. You can flip to one side of the street or the other for easier viewing as you travel along the route using the arrow keys, among other things.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED:
https://12sunsets.getty.edu/

https://www.exibartstreet.com/wp-con...5-1024x661.jpg

JDRCRASH Feb 2, 2021 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mstimc (Post 9177735)
Shameful. Craftsman style has always been my favorite for home design. It just seems to lend itself to being lived in, if that makes sense.

Totally agree. Its why while I would like the idea of living in a brick-walled DTLA loft, i'd also like living in a good old-fashioned bungalow in some of the region's older cities (Pasadena, Monrovia, Claremont, Redlands, North Santa Ana, etc)

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 8:58 PM

Lastly, a 2007 color photo I like taken where Elysian Park Ave., now Vin Scully Ave., the street that takes you up to Dodger Stadium, t-bones with Sunset Boulevard. (Which I am going to this afternoon to get the vaccine shot!) The billboard signs are retro in and of themselves.


Handsome Stranger Feb 3, 2021 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 9176859)

https://i.postimg.cc/NGWwtS46/WAD1815-GSV-bmp.jpg

A demolition permit for this 1909 Craftsman at 1815 West Adams Boulevard, seemingly well-cared for, was issued last August. Perhaps if anyone in LA is covid-bored, lives nearby and/or needs to get out of the house, he or she might want to check to see if this has happened yet. It will probably be replaced by the type of multi-unit building for which houses like this one are rapidly being bulldozed. It sold for $820,000 in July 2019.

Here's 1815 West Adams as of this afternoon, 2 February 2021.

https://i.postimg.cc/8Pkx6wfN/W-Adams.jpg

Barstowboy Feb 3, 2021 2:22 AM

Martin,
I've tried that link and the one on the Getty page, but nothing happens. I get a blank screen.
Any ideas?
Thanks.


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