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ethereal_reality Jan 23, 2018 4:13 AM

here's another Chinatown slide for you.

"Soochow Restaurant in Chinatown Los Angeles CA, 1950s Original Slide"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/EXpGMD.jpg
EBAY

I don't know the address but I see a 455 in the reflection.

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ethereal_reality Jan 23, 2018 4:36 AM

I'll say goodnight with a 'mystery' location.


"1931 Cloudburst Damage, Los Angeles CA, Press Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/oSQqjN.jpg
EBAY

I wasn't all that thrilled with this photo, but then I noticed some fairly interesting buildings in the distance.

here's a closer look
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Sbe3cr.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/600zsU.jpg
EBAY

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CityBoyDoug Jan 23, 2018 5:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8056934)
Here's one more photograph:

A small portion of the 'White City' pavillion can be seen on the left edge of the photo.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/KrY3nU.jpg
Huntington Archive

I'm done.

At the right is the Pacific Electric trolley that went to the Alpine Tavern- Hotel at Mount Lowe. Today in 2018 only a burned out hulk of the Inn remains.

https://assets.atlasobscura.com/arti...0551/image.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...06/Mlr_map.jpg
https://assets.atlasobscura.com/arti...0551/image.jpg

On the way to Mt. Lowe

http://cdn.lamag.com/wp-content/uplo.../04/MtLowe.jpg
http://cdn.lamag.com/wp-content/uplo.../04/MtLowe.jpg

odinthor Jan 23, 2018 6:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8055509)
Speaking of lamps and their placement.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/2P6uZI.jpgposted by Tourmaline

tsk...tsk :duh

i may be the only one, but shouldn't the lamps be at either end of the bridge.
that spot is where people should be able to stand and gaze down the length of the canal.

My nothing-but-a-guess is that, at night, with the lights at either end, there wasn't enough illumination at the center for the hard[l]y sailors of Venice to keep from getting beaned as they boated under the bridge. Note how the light sources from each standard are varied, to (under my theory) assist with depth perception. Um, or something. :shrug:

odinthor Jan 23, 2018 6:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8055829)
HOLY COW, some of you here are just AMAZING experts on the history of Los Angeles architecture. I thought that *I* knew this stuff, but so many of you here have simply blown me away with your expertise. I have learned so much in this thread, and I thank you all for it! Let me just say, this is the most amazing internet thread EVER.

Hello, this is my first post on the forum. I have lived my entire life in Los Angeles, and I absolutely love the beautiful old buildings, so many of which (see my avatar) we have lost in the name of “progress”.

I’ve been reading this thread for probably a year now. I had originally intended to not make any comments until I had caught up, but this thread is now over 2,000 pages long! I just passed page number 1007, and at the rate I’m going, I’m never gonna catch up! :(

With the help of you fine people, I now believe that I could easily navigate old LA if I were thrown into a time machine. I could explore the beautiful, long-gone tunnels on Hill and on Broadway. I could make my way around the much-missed Bunker Hill, visit the Bradbury Mansion, and ride down Court Flight. And I could find myself a good lunch in the original Chinatown. And boy, would it be a pleasure to do it!

Anyways, here’s my thanks to all of you people who have made this such an amazing thread‼

:cheers:

PS: If any of you would like to tell us how you became such experts on the history of Los Angeles architecture, I’d love to hear your stories!

I'm afraid that I'm small potatoes compared to many of the posters here; but here's my background and how I arrived here (put as laconically as possible):

A lifelong love of Catalina prompted me to start collecting old postcards of same. In due course I thought that it would be fun to make a site showing early Catalina, via a fictional story. I then thought, "Well, I have to get the visitors to Catalina, don't I? I could have just a little bit about the part of their visit before they got to Catalina." And then the "little bit" in Los Angeles turned into the lion's share of the site. In researching the L.A. views, at length I found myself repeatedly googled over to Noirish L.A. . . . and spending hours reading post after post. On the encouragement of our colleague Alvaro Legido, I eventually joined . . . which however put me into a cyber holding pen for about a year, a sort of limbo in which I could neither post nor re-attempt to join. One day, I somehow was released from limbo, and . . . here I am.

Such familiarity as I have with metropolis L.A. derives from these turn-of-the-century postcards I've collected, and the research I did when putting them together and writing the story for the site.

I have a further familiarity with pre-Yankee L.A., and L.A. up to about 1875; but sadly or happily that doesn't much come into play here.

Perhaps most importantly, another keen lifelong interest of mine is horticulture, and so I'll often have something to say about trees or flowers or whatever.

I'll (nearly) end by saying that NLA posters compose the most good-natured and well-behaved group of people I've seen on any forum (and I'm on a good number of forums), our spirited, knowledgeable, and gallant preceptor e_r leading by example.

And so, welcome to NLA, and, um, Hurrah for us!

That is all. :runaway:

HossC Jan 23, 2018 9:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8056947)

here's another Chinatown slide for you.

"Soochow Restaurant in Chinatown Los Angeles CA, 1950s Original Slide"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/EXpGMD.jpg
EBAY

I don't know the address but I see a 455 in the reflection.

The Soochow restaurant above was at 454 Jung Jing Road. I think that the building (below) is still recognizable. The 1956 CD lists another branch at 101 E Sunset Boulevard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
GSV

BillinGlendaleCA Jan 23, 2018 1:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8057029)
At the right is the Pacific Electric trolley that went to the Alpine Tavern- Hotel at Mount Lowe. Today in 2018 only a burned out hulk of the Inn remains.

https://assets.atlasobscura.com/arti...0551/image.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...06/Mlr_map.jpg
https://assets.atlasobscura.com/arti...0551/image.jpg

On the way to Mt. Lowe

http://cdn.lamag.com/wp-content/uplo.../04/MtLowe.jpg
http://cdn.lamag.com/wp-content/uplo.../04/MtLowe.jpg

Here's a picture of what the top of the incline RR and the entrance to "White City" look like today(well March 2016),

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1660/...2a2d3b90_b.jpg_3310021 by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

...and the remains of Ye Ol' Tavern(aka Alpine Tavern).

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1707/...4a2e6959_b.jpg_3310046 by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

Lorendoc Jan 23, 2018 5:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8056975)
I'll say goodnight with a 'mystery' location.


"1931 Cloudburst Damage, Los Angeles CA, Press Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/oSQqjN.jpg
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Per the 1930 San Pedro directory, the Dau-Hansen Paint Co. was at 105 E Anaheim in Wilmington; the Coast Lumber Supply Co. was at 521 E Anaheim.

Lorendoc Jan 23, 2018 7:15 PM

Torrance then and now
 
Several of Ralph Morris's commercial photographs have been seen here before. Here is an undated one captioned: "Caputo's Floor Covering store seen from across a street." It almost looks like there's a man perched on top of the roof sign...

https://i.imgur.com/JzrsUjv.jpg
lapl via Calisphere

No luck in the city directories, but I found a display ad in the LAT for Caputo's at 18814 Crenshaw in Torrance. Surprisingly the building is still there and is in the same general business:

https://i.imgur.com/WmSPsNM.jpg
gsv

The assessor dates the building to 1964. Sorry about the composition of the shot :shrug:

HossC Jan 23, 2018 7:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8057483)

Per the 1930 San Pedro directory, the Dau-Hansen Paint Co. was at 105 E Anaheim in Wilmington; the Coast Lumber Supply Co. was at 521 E Anaheim.

I also found that address for Dau-Hansen, but I'm not sure if that's where we're looking. Here's the intersection of Anaheim Street and N Avalon Boulevard in 1928, with 105 E Anaheim Street on the north-east corner of the central crossing (assuming the street wasn't renumbered).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

This is a scaled-down version of the whole image. Some of the nearby streets were fairly sparsely populated, so maybe the damaged building in e_r's photo was on one of them.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Both from mil.library.ucsb.edu
Flight: C_236, Frame: E-7, Date: June 26, 1928.

Noire1 Jan 23, 2018 8:25 PM

Almost identical Building
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8055899)
Re 628 & 636 S Serrano...






https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0Z...K=w821-h422-no
LAT Feb 23, 1919


These buildings reminded me of Charles H. Thompson, a Chicago-area real estate developer who built 100 Fremont Place (see its story HERE).

Charles H. Thompson built at least one project in Los Angeles--I dug through some of my old notes, from 2012 about 100 FP--in them I wrote down that there was, circa 1919, another Charles H. Thompson operating in LA, this one a manager for the Frank Meline Company in charge of numerous projects for that concern--as well as, to add to the confusion, an automobile dealer by the same name much mentioned in newspaper reports.

Anyway, the projects I noted of the C H Thompson of 100 Fremont Place are the twin apartment buildings still at 700 and 708 South New Hampshire Avenue at the southeast corner of West 7th Street (across from 701, where Mary Miles Minter once lived--I thought we'd looked into that house, but I couldn't find a post). The building permits for 700 and 708 were issued on September 6, 1918, and list C H Thompson, address 100 Fremont Place, as the owner as well as the architect and contractor-- after I saw your images, FW, I was almost certain that I'd find H. J. Knauer's name on the permits as architect. Thompson is named on the documents as owner and builder of his house at 100 FP, though not specifically as architect...I can't help but wonder if Knauer was somehow involved....



These Buildings are very Similar to a very intact Apartment House w/o Frieze on the Central Coast Address is at 332 E. Lake Ave. Watsonville,Calif. Build Date of 1934 Attached is a link to the google street view http://https://www.google.com/maps/p...2c9b00088cff32

Noire1 Jan 23, 2018 8:26 PM

Almost identical Building
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8055899)
Re 628 & 636 S Serrano...






https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0Z2PSy7sWt4HjF2HJJ7LJjMea3qQzLjIKHEDkfaE5yE7r_e17BRsN2QNyuP6dr6SzAYBxLqqGirpQGsyewfKr1R-dULyQ3wnsnsbSiOrbve4w8xwtTGNesQf3ETzKAXc201WKYJcDyRyqOBy1Pihe4AqKzmeT3n8S8NU3pKPlP-Mr5d1F_YjBlqugHCsq1bo1PG9R7JHYP3Y7kWAgJLy0amCgEp1JaH81PensypFwQFwAXpUDQo0k8P1ehcINVbqvqGc_vcflP_xIuYB4pRxqEBFHTQcVrW9Zmwiz7XGdnMy-3A7miWhPbD9EuRcpX-tN6zHFKjKo3orzMbRC3mNbQP8lQA3cAccnR1_QGGPfNheY3mIe3bfeRRVaoU22GbnMTswbNk7FUp5EDQz7qPgqSYaSep1RZkv4gCfC0STbxgHdOVw7WXNaa68mB3AvCzt6uFxK9BdKA-5IArIZBgfFIqyEAYXIescYdkzlSAWr6xl2wXf26W3A5uQnBQqn660EwpfPb5NxUpC4obdb8qofspzgIEAxQAyhNmxzhtOhAYZs4ovb17-n22J4pnkzGdQtaY21OEr2B-PVvuqb4MARs83zFK5qI02ZD4l2jPK=w821-h422-no[/IMG]
LAT Feb 23, 1919


These buildings reminded me of Charles H. Thompson, a Chicago-area real estate developer who built 100 Fremont Place (see its story HERE).

Charles H. Thompson built at least one project in Los Angeles--I dug through some of my old notes, from 2012 about 100 FP--in them I wrote down that there was, circa 1919, another Charles H. Thompson operating in LA, this one a manager for the Frank Meline Company in charge of numerous projects for that concern--as well as, to add to the confusion, an automobile dealer by the same name much mentioned in newspaper reports.

Anyway, the projects I noted of the C H Thompson of 100 Fremont Place are the twin apartment buildings still at 700 and 708 South New Hampshire Avenue at the southeast corner of West 7th Street (across from 701, where Mary Miles Minter once lived--I thought we'd looked into that house, but I couldn't find a post). The building permits for 700 and 708 were issued on September 6, 1918, and list C H Thompson, address 100 Fremont Place, as the owner as well as the architect and contractor-- after I saw your images, FW, I was almost certain that I'd find H. J. Knauer's name on the permits as architect. Thompson is named on the documents as owner and builder of his house at 100 FP, though not specifically as architect...I can't help but wonder if Knauer was somehow involved....



These Buildings are very Similar to a very intact Apartment House w/o Frieze on the Central Coast Address is at 332 E. Lake Ave. Watsonville,Calif. Build Date of 1934 Attached is a link to the google street view www.google.com/maps/place/332+E+Lake+Ave,+Watsonville,+CA+95076/@36.9158301,-121.7526101,3a,75y,145.63h,93.29t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sOiC1-IeP-mR65fVNoVJNAQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x808e1b3d3f76819b:0x8c2c9b00088cff32"]http://https://www.google.com/maps/place/332+E+Lake+Ave,+Watsonville,+CA+95076/@36.9158301,-121.7526101,3a,75y,145.63h,93.29t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sOiC1-IeP-mR65fVNoVJNAQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x808e1b3d3f76819b:0x8c2c9b00088cff32[/URL]

oldstuff Jan 23, 2018 9:27 PM

In this photograph, the building with the sign is mostly hidden behind the people on the Rubio incline car.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/L6Svsb.jpg



The man and woman in the middle row on the left of the picture could very possibly be my maternal grandparents. He is in a light suit and she is much shorter and wearing a dark dress and a hat that looks like she has a cake on her head. I have some pictures of her in a hat just like that and my grandfather had a suit like that.

ethereal_reality Jan 23, 2018 10:50 PM

this couple oldstuff?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/AeukiF.jpg

let us know if it's them!

(I have a doppelganger on the trip. He's the short guy directly above your 'grandmother')
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In appears the incline hit a bird and the poor thing got tangled in this lady's hat.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...922/WPDAZZ.jpg

;)

ethereal_reality Jan 23, 2018 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8057483)
Per the 1930 San Pedro directory, the Dau-Hansen Paint Co. was at 105 E Anaheim in Wilmington; the Coast Lumber Supply Co. was at 521 E Anaheim.

Thanks Lorendoc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8057716)
I also found that address for Dau-Hansen, but I'm not sure if that's where we're looking. Here's the intersection of Anaheim Street and N Avalon Boulevard in 1928, with 105 E Anaheim Street on the north-east corner of the central crossing (assuming the street wasn't renumbered).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

This is a scaled-down version of the whole image. Some of the nearby streets were fairly sparsely populated, so maybe the damaged building in e_r's photo was on one of them.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Both from mil.library.ucsb.edu
Flight: C_236, Frame: E-7, Date: June 26, 1928.

Hoss, I know that you taught me how to use the USB Aerial Photography site....but I'm embarrassed to say I couldn't figure it out again.


update:
NEVERMIND. I think I got it to work.

nope :(

HossC Jan 24, 2018 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8058138)

Hoss, I know that you taught be how to use the USB Aerial Photography site....but I'm embarrassed to say I couldn't figure it out again.

update:
NEVERMIND. I think I got it to work.

nope :(

For anyone not familiar with the old aerials site that e_r is talking about, go to mil.library.ucsb.edu.

Type "los angeles" in the search box in the top-left corner and press "Enter" to reposition the map and then drag/zoom to the desired area. Each colored dot indicates an aerial photo, with the darkest red being the oldest (circa 1928), and the lightest yellow being the most recent. Click a dot to see the details. If the box says "Scan: Download", just click the "Download" link and choose how you want to open/save the file. If the image isn't yet available, it will say "Scan: Request Scan".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...A4/LAUCSB1.jpg

A couple of words of warning. All of the files download as TIF images, and some are multi-layered, so check that you can open them. Secondly, file sizes vary considerably from around 20Mb to over 250Mb. Finally, the images don't give any indication of orientation, so you'll have to work out the correct rotation.

ethereal_reality Jan 24, 2018 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8057110)
The Soochow restaurant above was at 454 Jung Jing Road. I think that the building (below) is still recognizable.

ethereal reality
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/3mXLNA.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Ku2wXK.jpg

The 1956 CD lists another branch at 101 E Sunset Boulevard.

GSV

Thanks Hoss!

Here's the Sunset and Main St. location you mentioned.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/rh0vq4.jpg
posted HERE by westcork

any idea what that little 'dome' is on top?

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ethereal_reality Jan 24, 2018 1:05 AM

I just realized there's a second view of the Soochow as well.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/jgmIi1.jpg
westcork

check out the link...there's a third photo.

ethereal_reality Jan 24, 2018 1:37 AM

remember this old request:

______________________________________________________________________________________________

"Can you help me find old photos of 4236 Griffin Ave in Los Angeles

We’re trying to restore the site of an old signal gas station but we would like to restore it to its original Art Deco style

and the noirish Los Angeles thread seem to be the authority when it comes to L.A. history any help would be greatly appreciated."


my name is Fred

______________________________________________________________________________________________

I wasn't able to find an old pic of the 4236 Griffin location, but here's a Signal station that has art deco elements.

somewhere in Los Angeles
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/aXPxkX.jpg
PICTIFY



As a comparison here is Fred's station on Griffin & Ave. 43

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/GoYKOY.jpg
GSV

note the curved canopy and hexogonal window :previous:


view from Ave. 43 (before the white paint job)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/0OaWms.jpg
GSV

red arrow pointing to painted-over hexagon



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tovangar2 Jan 24, 2018 2:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8058234)
Thanks Hoss!

Here's the Sunset and Main St. location you mentioned.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/rh0vq4.jpg
posted HERE by westcork

any idea what that little 'dome' is on top?

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No longer Sunset and Main. That's the Simpson-Jones Building at the Plaza. The dome is the Methodist church.


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