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ethereal_reality Dec 7, 2017 7:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 8011615)
I'd say Italian Renaissance, specifically Venetian, where Gothic and Byzantine influences lasted longer than elsewhere in Italy.

:previous: I agree.

When I first saw the photograph I thought of Venice (the one in Italy ;))

-especially along the cornice
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...923/TMQf8q.jpg


and the sword-like finials on the roof.

CityBoyDoug Dec 7, 2017 8:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8011756)
Although they might well have:




Why are some of you so angry or antagonisitic, as it appears you are, concerning these fires and/or the news coverage of them?




https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017...ticleLarge.jpg

I rarely watch TV news...such a bore. I get news from Internet

tovangar2 Dec 7, 2017 8:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8011756)
Why are some of you so angry or antagonisitic, as it appears you are, concerning these fires and/or the news coverage of them?

Because disaster porn isn't news coverage. Plus the hyperbole causes actual, but unfounded, worry. Grandpa, 93 and in London, rang with real trepidation fearing his grandchildren had been incinerated as he slept (this in response to the NYT specifically).

ethereal_reality Dec 7, 2017 8:15 PM

I know when GW reads "New York Trash" he's going to go ballistic.

tovangar2 Dec 7, 2017 8:46 PM

The NYT has been shameless since long before Judith Miller. Their business model works for them, so I sincerely doubt they care what we think, pro or con.


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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8011811)
I rarely watch TV news

My sister in North San Diego County consumes it all. If she rings one more time frantically demanding I pack evacuation bags, I'm turning my phone off.



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Thx for the response re FW's apartment building e_r. I've been sitting here wishing I had the skills to photo-shop a gondola into the image.

Beaudry Dec 7, 2017 9:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 8011824)
Because disaster porn isn't news coverage. Plus the hyperbole causes actual, but unfounded, worry. Grandpa, 93 and in London, rang with real trepidation fearing his grandchildren had been incinerated as he slept (this in response to the NYT specifically).

I can also vouch for the NYT "Fires Enter the Heart of Los Angeles" headline's deleterious effects on the nerves of non-Angelenos. I dealt with a flurry of emails from folk all over the states, along with overseas family & coworkers, who imagined my house rained upon by flaming embers. I pointed out that LA City is, for example, ten times the size of Boston, and I'm in a dense urban area, so wildfires are not a problem. (That said, we've had an uptick in seismic activity, and my neighborhood of shingle homes, including mine, will likely disappear in a conflagration when there's a large temblor and gas lines erupt, power lines go down, and water mains bust.)

But let me shift back to LA architecture. Here's something else I wanted to say about Angeles Abbey. Now, I'm not a Shiite, or Kurdish, or Kuwaiti, but let's say I were, and had family interred at Angeles Abbey. And they're putting Saddam Hussein's picture up all over the place.

http://www.iamnotastalker.com/wp-con...8721_thumb.jpg

http://www.iamnotastalker.com/wp-con...8715_thumb.jpgiamnotatalker

What if you went to visit Uncle Shlomo at Mount Sinai Memorial and were turned away because they were filming it as a Nazi HQ and paintings of Hitler were everywhere?

Now, I get it, the Abbey needs the filming money to keep the roof from collapsing. Still, one would think the dead could rest in peace.

Forgive my soapboxing. Here then are some more vintage images of Angeles Abbey—

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4574/...9790a724_c.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4568/...ee287a47_c.jpg

Plus one of me, years ago, saying Merry Christmas!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4556/...3ee61aac_o.jpg

tovangar2 Dec 7, 2017 9:37 PM

Thank you Beaudry. Those were lovely, especially the sepia exterior (and the one of you of course).

ethereal_reality Dec 7, 2017 9:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Gillis
Anyone else notice the owl on the roof and the 'dinosaur' on the telegraph wire?

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Good eye Joe. lol :)
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GaylordWilshire Dec 7, 2017 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8011831)
I know when GW reads "New York Trash" he's going to go ballistic.


Well, let's just say that I know of no one in NY who gives even a tiny thought about what the LAT writes about us or what Angelenos think of New Yorkers.... Seems to be a perennial one-way worry....



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MaCXa3ZSH8

Joe Vogel Dec 7, 2017 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Gillis (Post 8011256)
looks to have a touch of Jacobean to me

Anyone else notice the owl on the roof and the 'dinosaur' on the telegraph wire?

There's an owl on the Gamble house in Pasadena, too. At the end of the tour I once took the docent asked if we had any questions so I asked about the owl, and she said that it was put there to scare birds away. Apparently most avian species are too doltish to know the difference between a real owl and a ceramic one.

I don't think the thing on the utility wire is a fake dinosaur, though. I suspect it's a real squirrel, running to the left, and the part that looks like a dinosaur's neck and head is the rodent's tail. I live in a place plagued by squirrels, and they do sometimes use utility lines as roads, as do their cousins the rats. They also chew the insulation on the cables, which is why I lose my DSL every other year or so and AT&T has to send a guy out to replace the cable from the pole to my house. They are cute little buggers (the squirrels, not the AT&T linemen) but obnoxious.

ethereal_reality Dec 7, 2017 11:42 PM

I don't believe we have seen this stereo-view on NLA.

"Walnut Avenue, Los Angeles, Calif., U.S.A."

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If you look closely, the swan is sitting on a metal frond base atop a stone plinth.


in case you need new glasses, here it is even closer
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/a7i1sv.jpg
super duper close-up





the location is printed at lower right.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/Y50tg0.jpg1890s/ebay

Do you suppose this is someone's estate?

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Despite the name of the avenue I'm pretty sure none of the trees are Walnut.

(I should know....my mom has 16 walnut trees in her yard and I've been clunked on the head countless times)

ethereal_reality Dec 8, 2017 12:14 AM

A nurse and her patient get some fresh air on the fire escape at Good Samaritan Hospital, Los Angeles.

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1910s ebay

CityBoyDoug Dec 8, 2017 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8011923)



ha ha ha ha Mr. Squirrel.....

tovangar2 Dec 8, 2017 1:15 AM

Rupert Murdoch's Moraga winery in Bel-Air was Victor Fleming's horse ranch from 1939 until his death in '49.

This photo of Fleming was taken in 1934 with the stars of "Reckless". It wasn't taken at Fleming's ranch, which he didn't own yet, but looks suitably bucolic:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0O...E=w805-h610-no
imdb

IMDB quotes a charming anecdote about Fleming,

"Director Henry Hathaway, a former Fleming assistant director, said of his old boss, "There was more of Fleming in [Clark Gable] than there was Gable in Gable. I think that Gable really mimicked Victor Fleming and became that kind of man on the screen".



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tovangar2 Dec 8, 2017 2:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8012047)

"Walnut Avenue, Los Angeles, Calif., U.S.A."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/aTRzV6.jpg

Despite the name of the avenue I'm pretty sure none of the trees are Walnut.

Could those be walnuts beyond the two trees framing the shot? I can't make out the foliage of the obscured trees, just that their trucks are painted white.

The foreground trees almost look like Casuarinas, commonly called Horsetail Pines, although they're not pines at all. I'm getting out on a limb a bit, but I bet odinthor knows

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 8, 2017 3:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 8011824)
Because disaster porn isn't news coverage. Plus the hyperbole causes actual, but unfounded, worry. Grandpa, 93 and in London, rang with real trepidation fearing his grandchildren had been incinerated as he slept (this in response to the NYT specifically).

I've been asked in another venue: if I'm OK, have I evacuated...

Folk outside of LA think the whole place is on fire. I tell them LA's a really big place and then point the the pano I recently posted.

tovangar2 Dec 8, 2017 4:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8012241)

Folk outside of LA think the whole place is on fire.

Seems the Bel-Air click bait opportunities are now just about exhausted:

DEC. 7, 2017, 5:38 P.M.
"Most residents displaced by Creek and Skirball fires will be allowed to go home
Alejandra Reyes-Velarde

As firefighters made progress on the Creek fire, officials announced most residents will be allowed to return to their homes as of 4 p.m. Thursday.

The Riverwood, Ebey Canyon and Doane Canyon areas are open to residents only, as is the Shadow Hills area north of Sunland Boulevard, the Los Angeles Fire Department posted on Twitter. Limekiln Canyon remains closed from Pacoima Canyon Road to Maclay Street.

Skirball fire evacuees — including those who live on Roscomare Road, Bel Terrace, all roads between Sunset Boulevard and Bellagio Road, and North Casiano Road from Mulholland Drive — can return home at 8 p.m. Thursday...."

LAT

GaylordWilshire Dec 8, 2017 1:23 PM

I've been reminded of a scene in Bright Eyes... Mrs. Smythe (née Smith) addressing her staff: "My cousin is arriving from New York tomorrow and
I want you to be sure everything is done just right.... I'm very anxious to show her we can things exactly as well out here as they do in the east...."


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We've seen clips from Bright Eyes before, with great scenes of Grand Central Airport, American Airlines Condors and DC-2s, great
pepper tree–lined roads, a PE bus that figures into the scene in which Shirley's mother is flattened as she's carrying Shirley's elaborate
birthday cake, a classic Decoish house in Pasadena (?), and, to top it all off, the great Jane Withers and her machine-gun imitation. The
colorized version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1doC7X_VSM

CityBoyDoug Dec 8, 2017 3:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8012504)
I've been reminded of a scene in Bright Eyes... Mrs. Smythe (née Smith) addressing her staff: "My cousin is arriving from New York tomorrow and
I want you to be sure everything is done just right.... I'm very anxious to show her we can do things exactly as well out here as they do in the east...."


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NR...0=w960-h647-no

Fun to see the old kitchens and how they looked with their various accouterments. Now its all obsolete except for the sink.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BDCnXwHcRB...0/s640/br6.jpg https://oldmoviesaregreat.files.word...pg?w=672&h=510

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HHlfsGhTHQ.../s640/br12.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U-W-Zz0zIh...s1600/br16.jpg

Imagine a home with a cook, butler, maid, chauffeur and a handyman....perfect. Oh, I forgot the little girl....Shirley.

ethereal_reality Dec 8, 2017 3:45 PM

and the Mom gets run over by a bus.


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