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GaylordWilshire Nov 29, 2017 12:48 AM

:previous:


Charles Silent sold Bayly the parcel in CP, made up of Lots 7, 8 and 9, on Feb 2, 1899-- he moved from 949 West Adams....

tovangar2 Nov 29, 2017 3:05 AM

When Dingbats Attack
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 7999317)
Not to tempt fate, but it wouldn't take much of an earthquake in the LA basin to redtag most of the Dingbats with unreinforced soft first floors (carports under second floor apartments).


"LA's Signature Dingbat Apartments Very Bad News in a 'Quake

We should've known it'd be the dingbats that'd get us. LA's signature apartment buildings--the ones with the units overhanging the parking--are tragedies just waiting for the next big earthquake to happen. Come on. Duh. They and other "soft-story" buildings (mostly all apartments and condos) are, with concrete and brick buildings, the most vulnerable in a major earthquake, "because the first story cannot support the weight of the upper stories," according to the LA Times. Now Councilmember Tom LaBonge wants to look into making an inventory so that at the very least we know just how many are lying out there in wait. The inventory would cover "buildings in Los Angeles built before 1978 with at least two stories and at least five units." (San Francisco has already passed a law requiring owners to strengthen soft-stories.)

About 200 soft-story buildings were badly damaged or destroyed in the Northridge Earthquake in 1994..."


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NL...s=w837-h559-no
- LA curbed

CityBoyDoug Nov 29, 2017 6:23 AM

Yeah, bad day for the Dingbats.....January 17, 1994 I was near north Long Beach - things were really rockin and rollin that night.

https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-g...Earthquake.jpg
https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-g...Earthquake.jpg

ethereal_reality Nov 29, 2017 7:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7999963)
In the 1940s Anita King took up horse racing and operated one of the best known and most successful stables on the west coast.
Her horse Moonrush, ridden by Johnny Longden, won the prestigious Santa Anita Handicap in 1951.

Among King's horses in Winnipeg were Emerald Bay and Son of War, who ran first and second in the 1942 edition of the Polo Park Handicap.
Son of War also won the Speers Handicap in 1943. Another beauty from her stable, Erne Castle won the Fort Rouge Handicap in 1943.

Thanks oldstuff.

Here's a pic of Anita with one of her winning horses.

"Emerald Bay wins Polo Park Handicap for Anita King (far left). July 6, 1942."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/tw65Od.jpg
assiniboia downs


as for the location of the stables:

"Childless, King willed her stables and ranch in nearby Temple City, California to her horse trainer of 24 years

and divided her estate among some 25 relatives.



from "a reliable car and a woman who knows it"
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ethereal_reality Nov 29, 2017 8:06 AM

this is one of my favorite dingbats.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/wpzlDm.jpg
Andrew Murr at flickr

The Hauser Apts. / 1436 Hauser Blvd. / Los Angeles CA

note how the design is carried down to the car port with the vertical coral rectangles at ea. parking space

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CityBoyDoug Nov 29, 2017 2:05 PM

Ethereal:
The Hauser Apts. / 1436 Hauser Blvd. / Los Angeles CA...w0w, that is a classic of the genre. Cool.

Bristolian Nov 29, 2017 3:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8001120)
Yeah, bad day for the Dingbats.....January 17, 1994 I was near north Long Beach - things were really rockin and rollin that night.

https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-g...Earthquake.jpg
https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-g...Earthquake.jpg

That might be the best thing that could have happened to a brown four door Pontiac T1000, the cousin of the Chevy Chevette. Is it possible that there is not a single one of these still on the road?

CityBoyDoug Nov 29, 2017 4:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8001380)
That might be the best thing that could have happened to a brown four door Pontiac T1000, the cousin of the Chevy Chevette. Is it possible that there is not a single one of these still on the road?

There are a few here and there but very rare.
Also, there are, believe it or not, some Vega wagons still on the road. I saw one a few years ago and almost fainted. I talked to the owner...he keeps it in a garage and both engine & body had to be rebuilt.
Here's my aunt and me at our desert house...plus my Vega....1975

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4540/...896607_m_d.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/

FASTER345 Nov 29, 2017 8:33 PM

I love Vega wagons, even though, according to the following article, the Vega almost killed GM! http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...-destroyed-gm/

Flyingwedge Nov 29, 2017 9:14 PM

Flower from 8th to 9th Follow-Up
 
Back in March 2016 I did a post on the 1st English Lutheran Church at the SE corner of 8th and Flower and some of the
buildings on Flower between 8th and 9th. I've run across a little more information on this block.

For example, here's the church on the corner, with 810-12 to its right (built in late 1902 as a Pierce Bros. Mortuary),
and then a mission-revival building:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7388308)

This 1916 photo looks at the east side of Flower Street toward 8th, with the 1st English Lutheran Church on the corner.
The next building south of the church is 810-12 S. Flower:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pscdolislm.jpg
00013875 @ LAPL -- http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013875.jpg

This October 11, 1923, photo shows a sliver of the church on the left, then 810-12 and the structure to its south being
demoed for the LA Gas and Electric Corp. building, which still stands today:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psuw95u3f7.jpg

CA State Library


I also posted this photo; on the right, behind the rear of the boat and mostly obscured by trees, is 831 S. Flower:


Here I've zoomed in on the parade photo above to get a closer view of 831 S. Flower, which has a front porch that
is not visible in the photo of 831 a little farther down in this post:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pse5dofyj8.jpg

UCLA/Islandora


It turns out that 831 S. Flower was built in 1898 and designed by Thornton Fitzhugh:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6zxzvbtj.jpg

January 20, 1898, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC


http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psmr57tac3.jpg

February 3, 1898, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC


Here's a closer look at 831-33 S. Flower:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3spg7uqq.jpg

The Inland Architect and News Record Vol 43 No 6 June 1904 @ Hathitrust


The 1921 Baist Map shows 831-33 Flower still standing, but it likely was torn down when Allison and Allison's
Womens Athletic Club, seen here in 1925, was built at 829 S. Flower:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pszrzgessa.jpg

00047700 @ LAPL


The the last two buildings on the right in the above photo can still be seen in this Feb 2017 GSV.

tovangar2 Nov 29, 2017 9:24 PM

Vulnerable Dingbats and etc
 
LAT's searchable database of earthquake vulnerable LA buildings is here.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ys...Q=w869-h495-no
LAT

My building is not on the list, but the neighboring buildings to either side and across the street (Dingbats all) are vulnerable if the Inglewood and/or the Santa Monica faults move.

Actually, many of the Dingbats around here are hardly recognizable anymore, except for their soft stories. Their loopy script names have been stripped away, together with their dingbat emblems. Now painted in tasteful shades of taupe, beige and white, lushly landscaped, they're Schindler wannabes.

GaylordWilshire Nov 29, 2017 9:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7418432)
By the way, there's a humorous website called "Judgmental Maps."

http://judgmentalmaps.com/

Speaking of West Hollywood, here's an example from their site:

http://36.media.tumblr.com/83bbf1588...f8ko1_1280.png


Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7418611)
Just like New York Manhattan Island....too many huge dogs and NO private yards for them. The sidewalks? You get the picture.


Amusing maps, worth looking at again.... Apropos only of coming across this post while hunting for something else.... Can't say I've walked the streets of West Hollywood ever to have
stepped in it, but this is a completely inaccurate depiction of Manhattan.... (I love L.A., but I also love where I live, and where I walk miles a day...and I have a 92-lb black lab.)

CityBoyDoug Nov 29, 2017 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FASTER345 (Post 8001905)
I love Vega wagons, even though, according to the following article, the Vega almost killed GM! http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...-destroyed-gm/

The Vega Wagon was a great design and fun to drive. The problem was that GM wanted to save $11 on each car and skip the undercoat anti-rust paint. The result was eventual major body rust.

They also used an aluminum engine block....big mistake as it was not well tested.

https://s.hswstatic.com/gif/chevrolet-vega-10.jpg
https://s.hswstatic.com/gif/chevrolet-vega-10.jpg

BifRayRock Nov 29, 2017 10:35 PM

Dingbat in search of a structure?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6316787)

(1940's)
I love this photo taken in the 1940's! This is the SMB/La Cienega intersection. To the left of the Red Car is the La Cienega Lanes Bowling Alley which was built in 1940 on the Northeast corner. (Notice the Gruen Watch Time neon near the entrance.) The Bekins building is in the distance to the right of the Red Car. Look at that forest of electrical/telephone poles!

http://static1.squarespace.com/stati...g?format=1000w
Metro Photo Archive
gogonotes.blogspot.com/

***Update: (A KCET article I read that included this photograph said it was taken December 18, 1952.)






In the same neighborhood. . . A closer look at 8441-8445 Santa Monica Boulevard.



http://www.iamnotastalker.com/wp-con...9/P1000261.jpghttp://www.iamnotastalker.com/wp-con...9/P1000261.jpg



http://www.iamnotastalker.com/wp-con...9/P1000264.jpghttp://www.iamnotastalker.com/wp-con...9/P1000264.jpg



While the structure's bones are clearly still evident, the passage of decades has led to what appears to be a fair amount of cosmetic amendments.

8441-8445 Santa Monica Boulevard. Images from November 1946.


http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/0e8bb471e5b45b6d_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/0e8bb471e5b45b6d_large



http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/2f059e40be3a12e5_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/2f059e40be3a12e5_large





http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/7240a017b06bba26_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/7240a017b06bba26_large




http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/0748ab75a447aa64_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/0748ab75a447aa64_large




GaylordWilshire Nov 29, 2017 11:05 PM

:previous:


Looks more Googie than Dingbat... (in fact, not Dingy at all)

BifRayRock Nov 29, 2017 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8002147)
:previous:


Looks more Googie than Dingbat... (in fact, not Dingy at all)




I see free form, although I would concede overall googie. The characterization was not a comparison to the box-like apartment structures. Rather, the star/diamond/kite/phillips-screwdriver-tip form that originally graced the structure reminds me of any number of dingbat "symbols."

http://www.newdesignfile.com/postpic...ont_189224.pnghttp://www.newdesignfile.com/postpic...ont_189224.png


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...f63bc99213.jpghttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...f63bc99213.jpg


http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/0e8bb471e5b45b6d_large





HossC Nov 29, 2017 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 8002113)

I posted photos of the Ritts Co building at 8445 Santa Monica Boulevard, taken by Julius Shulman in 1947, in post #39594 back in February. Here's one of the interior images:

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7700862)


BifRayRock Nov 29, 2017 11:47 PM



:previous: Thank you HossC, for the post and the reminder. I looked, but since the bucket tipped over, I assumed the images might have evaporated.



Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8002050)
The Vega Wagon was a great design and fun to drive. The problem was that GM wanted to save $11 on each car and skip the undercoat anti-rust paint. The result was eventual major body rust. They also used an aluminum engine block....big mistake as it was not well tested.

https://s.hswstatic.com/gif/chevrolet-vega-10.jpg
https://s.hswstatic.com/gif/chevrolet-vega-10.jpg


Your description of the Vega's problems were kind. ;) In the '70s and '80s - GM was asleep at the wheel when dealing with fuel economy, emission standards and quality, virtually surrendering its market superiority to Asian and European competition.

One common joke was rust developing on the showroom floor.

Maybe Simoniz or Master wax - applied at the factory would have protected against those harsh showroom fluorescents. Or maybe the cars should have been parked in the snow (and left there), per the advertisement. VVVV

https://www.simoniz.com/customer-con...-Wax-Shine.jpghttps://www.simoniz.com/customer-con...-Wax-Shine.jpg


http://image.internetautoguide.com/f...rolet-vega.jpghttp://image.internetautoguide.com/f...rolet-vega.jpg




ethereal_reality Nov 30, 2017 6:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7997319)
2052 S Hobart was built in 1925 by glass company exec Louis Tyre.

Last Friday I posted this photograph of the Tyre Bros. Glass Company. [31st and San Pedro St.]

I didn't realize at that time that the building was still standing. (shown below)

1931
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/H96uHL.jpg


TODAY
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/o7ih40.jpg
usc digital archives / gsv


We came very close to this spot back in June of 2016 HERE and a follow up HERE





AND remember this 'accident' chalkboard (from last Fri. as well)

I'm still confused about the curved P.E. tracks.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/OJBVy4.jpg
Pacific Indemnity for Tyre Bros. Glass Co. dp.la



I placed a dotted red line where I think the curved tracks used to be.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/ZtqhGu.png

This makes me wonder if the Tyre Glass Company also owned buildings across San Pedro St.....closer to the curved tracks.
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Wig-Wag Nov 30, 2017 6:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 8002205)


:previous: Thank you HossC, for the post and the reminder. I looked, but since the bucket tipped over, I assumed the images might have evaporated.






Your description of the Vega's problems were kind. ;) In the '70s and '80s - GM was asleep at the wheel when dealing with fuel economy, emission standards and quality, virtually surrendering its market superiority to Asian and European competition.

One common joke was rust developing on the showroom floor.

Maybe Simoniz or Master wax - applied at the factory would have protected against those harsh showroom fluorescents. Or maybe the cars should have been parked in the snow (and left there), per the advertisement. VVVV

https://www.simoniz.com/customer-con...-Wax-Shine.jpghttps://www.simoniz.com/customer-con...-Wax-Shine.jpg


http://image.internetautoguide.com/f...rolet-vega.jpghttp://image.internetautoguide.com/f...rolet-vega.jpg




The County of LA bought a fleet of Vegas for some of their lower
division employees to use. At the time I had a friend who worked for the county as a line mechanic in their downtown garage. I had just purchased a used 74 Vega USPS panel truck from the Huntington beach Post Office simply because I love the look. While questioning my sanity he did comment that he had observed that the Vegas that seemed to require the fewest repairs were those that were thrashed by their assigned drivers.

A couple of years later I swapped out the '74 front end for a '77, and the same friend, all the while muttering that some people had strange dreams, replaced the in-line four cylinder with a Buick V6 and 350 Turbo Hydro. I then added 15 x 8 inch Centerline wheels and performance tires. The 4-cylinder went on for a couple of more years in another Vega owned by a neighbor so I can only surmise that it was duly thrashed in postal service.

I still own my Vega.


Cheers,
Jack


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