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odinthor Aug 29, 2017 8:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7905419)

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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/YpRdj2.jpg

She's proud of those flowering plants...any idea what they are odinthor?

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Yes, you know me too well--those flowers were the first thing I looked at in the photo. I'm thinking Marguerite Daisies (Argyranthemum frutescens), which used to have much more of a vogue than they do these days, and which I used to grow way way back in the days of the dinosaurs when I was just a li'l clod-hopper. Same (one gathers) as the lady in the pic, my mother was very fond of Marguerite Daisies. The sign probably says, "Please don't pick the daisies--dangerous attack dog!!!"

GaylordWilshire Aug 29, 2017 9:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7906147)
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Thanks for the extra photos of 2619 Fig, e_r.

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The only location information for this c. 1923-24 photo is somewhere in Los Angeles County. Does anyone recognize this
house, which seems to be on a corner? At the left base of the upper set of stairs is a small sign that might have the house
number, but I can't read it:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...a.jpg~original

487575 at Huntington Digital Library



Don't know where this is-- not sure I see a sign on the steps; it may just be shadow-pay again, but could that be "542" or "543" carved into the top of the porch column? If so... that could mean above Sixth on a sloping street, and, given the architecture, in a ritzy district more likely east of Hoover...if this isn't in some other Calif city altogether....

odinthor Aug 29, 2017 11:26 PM

https://s26.postimg.org/r1ab9j855/2112_Pk_Gr.jpg
gsv

The obliging Mr. Google took me for a quick spin in his jalopy, and we ran across this house at 2115 (?) Park Grove Avenue which I post for no reason other than it looked so pleasant (and about the diametric opposite of noirish!). The (?) is because I couldn't actually spot an address on the structure. (Address 2117 had a fire in 1965, which, according to the Los Angeles Times of February 11, 1965, "burned out the attic of a two-story, three-family dwelling" at that address; the Times had nothing for 2115.)

Flyingwedge Aug 30, 2017 1:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7906802)
Don't know where this is-- not sure I see a sign on the steps; it may just be shadow-pay again, but could that be "542" or "543" carved into the top of the porch column? If so... that could mean above Sixth on a sloping street, and, given the architecture, in a ritzy district more likely east of Hoover...if this isn't in some other Calif city altogether....

Thanks for taking a look at that house, GW. You're right, it could be anywhere. I thought I'd take a chance to see if
someone recognized it. Below in the center is what I thought might be that house number sign I mentioned, but I
guess it could just be part of the flowers:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...i.jpg~original


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Getting back to 2619 Figueroa . . . it could be a shadow, but I still think it looks more like a dent:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...v.jpg~original


In addition, I am pleased that you felt the photo of 2601 and 2619 Figueroa was good enough to add to your blog.

ethereal_reality Aug 30, 2017 1:50 AM

It's a dent.

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 7906793)
I'm thinking Marguerite Daisies (Argyranthemum frutescens)

Thanks for identifying the flowering plant odinthor. I appreciate your expertise. :)



I believe this is Argyranthemum frutescens as well.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/EetYw7.jpg
http://nostalgia.esmartkid.com/antiquepc1379.jpg

Color printed postcard, UB. Published by M. Rieder, Los Angeles, Cal. Number 3036.
Postmarked Jan 14, 1905, Pasadena, Cal.







I initially read Marguerite Daisies as Marguerite Duras.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/Avmqdp.jpg
Red List

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ethereal_reality Aug 30, 2017 2:03 AM

A bit of ephemera.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/Ptvd0p.jpg
ebay



here's the same building today.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/KrT74d.jpg
gsv

The building has lost it's 3 tall vertical windows and 4 smaller windows that faced E. Hubbard St.


I tried (unsuccessfully) to find a video of 'Nature's Fairyland'.
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ethereal_reality Aug 30, 2017 2:57 AM

5401 So. Central Avenue.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/9G1FQ3.jpg
gsv

Who would like to see the interior of this building when it was Silver's Drug Store back in 1940?



Here's the Liquor area. (it appears the small windows have been covered over)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/HHSYUF.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/93510/rec/1



The drug mixing area :shrug:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/ro2Ntn.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/93510/rec/1


info
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/OkJmxt.jpg

There was probably an accident that occurred in the store.

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If you look closely at the building there is some writing...but it's very difficult to read.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/Jz1WQc.jpgdetail

I thought one of you NLAers might be able to figure it out.

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CityBoyDoug Aug 30, 2017 4:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7907146)



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If you look closely at the building there is some writing...but it's very difficult to read.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/Jz1WQc.jpgdetail

I thought one of you NLAers might be able to figure it out.

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I think it says.....MARSEKY ????.

HossC Aug 30, 2017 9:15 AM

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I think that there's been more than one set of letters on that sign, which is making it hard to read. I found a reference to that address being Marsden's Pharmacy in the mid-1930s, and I think I can make out "MARSDEN" in the letters, possibly "MARSDEN BLDS".

Krell58 Aug 30, 2017 10:16 AM

Angels Flight to reopen after 4 years.

www.ladowntownnews.com/news/angels-flight-to-reopen-thursday/article_e7b6683a-8929-11e7-acdf-13e2ebe31837.html

GaylordWilshire Aug 30, 2017 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 7906945)
https://s26.postimg.org/r1ab9j855/2112_Pk_Gr.jpg
gsv

The obliging Mr. Google took me for a quick spin in his jalopy, and we ran across this house at 2115 (?) Park Grove Avenue which I post for no reason other than it looked so pleasant (and about the diametric opposite of noirish!). The (?) is because I couldn't actually spot an address on the structure. (Address 2117 had a fire in 1965, which, according to the Los Angeles Times of February 11, 1965, "burned out the attic of a two-story, three-family dwelling" at that address; the Times had nothing for 2115.)



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/He...A=w634-h570-nohttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kw...Q=w314-h500-no
LA Herald May 12, 1901


This is 2111 Park Grove Ave--built on two lots of the Kerr Tract in 1900--one of those late-Victorian houses built in LA that was considered old-fashioned in less than a decade.... Even its builder had one of those great old-lady names-- Mrs. Minerva F. Shively, who was holding receptions in her new house by the first of the next year. In 1947, a later owner donated the house to the Woodcraft Rangers, a "youth character-building" adjunct of the Community Chest. More recently, the house has belonged to the Robinsons of 27 St James Park--a couple who have restored quite a few Victorians in the area for USC housing. They call 2111 Park Grove "Woodcraft Manor."

ethereal_reality Aug 30, 2017 2:49 PM

:previous: Here's a quick glimpse inside.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/Q2t8Ui.jpg
https://lizinservice.files.wordpress...125-191901.jpg





http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/O68PpS.jpg
http://www.robinsonresidences.com/pr...ame=Residences

"This sprawling, nine-room student house was designed in 1901 by renowned architect John C. Austin, whose work included City Hall,
the Griffith Observatory, the Shrine Auditorium and USC's Old College."


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ethereal_reality Aug 30, 2017 4:37 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/Jz1WQc.jpgdetail
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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7907208)
I think it says.....MARSEKY ????.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7907289)
I think that there's been more than one set of letters on that sign, which is making it hard to read. I found a reference to that address being Marsden's Pharmacy in the mid-1930s, and I think I can make out "MARSDEN" in the letters, possibly "MARSDEN BLDS".

Thanks for your help CBD and HossC.

I agree Hoss, there appears to be more than one set of letters.
Marsden and a later owner (or vice versa)

Anyone close to the area want to check it out? ;)

Flyingwedge Aug 30, 2017 4:53 PM

More 2111 Park Grove
 
I found I had previously gathered some material on that house.

Minerva Francis Shively (d. 1912) in the 1902 LACD:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original

fold3.com


This guy's mother was a Shivley, so maybe Minerva was his aunt?:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...x.jpg~original

History of the Bench and Bar of Southern California (1909) @ Google Books


Before 2111 Park Grove was home to the Woodcraft Rangers, the house had become sanitarium:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...z.jpg~original

The California Eclectic Medical Journal (Feb 1914) @ Google Books



http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original

The Outlook, Jan-Apr 1914 @ Google Books



http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...s.jpg~original

Life and Health, May 1912 @ Google Books

GaylordWilshire Aug 30, 2017 5:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7907556)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/Jz1WQc.jpgdetail


Thanks for your help CBD and HossC.

I agree Hoss, there appears to be more than one set of letters.
Marsden and a later owner (or vice versa)

Anyone close to the area want to check it out? ;)


Well, druggist Harold F. Marsden built it in 1923--apparently he still owned it and ran the drugstore as late as 1959...so I'd say it was "MARSDEN BLDG"-- later owners included Harry I. Resnik, John Cornish, Sergio Orioli, Jesse Oronoz, and Avalon Properties.

ethereal_reality Aug 30, 2017 5:50 PM

:previous:
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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire
I'd say it was "MARSDEN BLDG"

Thanks GW. What threw me off was the 'M' and 'E' look like 'Ks (somewhat)

Martin Pal Aug 30, 2017 6:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Krell58 (Post 7907298)

:cheers:

GaylordWilshire Aug 30, 2017 7:11 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6E...A=w528-h648-no
LA Sentinel March 18, 1937

ethereal_reality Aug 30, 2017 8:28 PM

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Interesting to see the Townsend Pension Plan mentioned.

I couldn't locate any tokens but I found these poster-stamps.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/2Swjdo.jpg
https://www.ssa.gov/history/towns5.html


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/YYQzTa.jpg


could this be currency (?)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/xHeCop.jpg


You'd think thousands of trade tokens would be floating around online. -like on ebay.
I wonder why I wasn't able to find just one example :shrug:



Earlier post on Dr. Francis Townsend (from Long Beach)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=35091

GaylordWilshire Aug 30, 2017 9:42 PM

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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ii...g=w682-h218-no
http://www.icollector.com


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