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ethereal_reality Apr 13, 2017 6:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rustifer (Post 7771800)
The photo of the motorcycle folks outside Dino's (pg. 2049) got me to sign up on Skyscraper. I have had a long fascination with this part of the Strip since I was a 10 year-old watching 77 Sunset Strip (which is now being shown in reruns on MeTV to my delight). On my occasional business trips to Orange County over the past few years, I'd take a day and drive up to 8524 Sunset Blvd (the real address of 77 Sunset Strip) to bask in the history. By that time, Dino's was gone and the office that served as home for Stu Bailey and Jeff Spencer had become Tiffanys Theater. However, the drive through that existed between the office and Dino's was still there, along with a plaque commemorating the tv show.
It's all gone now, having given way to some high rise condos. A shame.
Sure would love to see more pics of this area from those days gone by!

:previous: Welcome to the thread Rustifer!

family album
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/TTlXSa.jpg
ebay



& a rather blurry copy of one of the menus [date unknown]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/JDP9cR.jpgebay

some of the dishes offered are rather interesting...

Duckling Montmorency....never heard of it.
Chicken Jerusalem (?)
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To see an AMAZING high-definition Dino's Lodge menu, go to 3940dxer's post from back in 2012. (link below)

Here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6047

It includes Boula Boula soup....whatever that is

and still offers a 'Montmorency',....but now made with 'Royal Squab'

and the Chicken Jerusalem has been axed.
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oldstuff Apr 13, 2017 6:15 PM

"By 1910, Italians such as the Aprato and Giacoletto families, pictured here in front of their boarding house,
constituted one-third of the residents of the North Broadway district. The heart of the settlement
could be found on Castelar Street (now North Hill Street), near St. Peter's Italian Church.
It extended to Alpine, Ord, San Fernando (present-day North Spring Street),
College and Casanova streets."
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oldstuff, can you work your magic and find some additional information on the Aprato and Giacoletto families?



I'd appreciate it. :)[/QUOTE]

Here is a little of what info there is on mostly the Aprato family:

1910 Census
Luis Aprato, born in Italy in 1889, in 1910 census lived at 743 New High Street, (by himself). He worked in a foundry.
1920 Census
Jo Aprato (Guiseppi) born in Italy on February 11, 1888. In the 1920 Census he is living at 1152 Yale Street, Los Angeles. Came to the US in 1910. Married to Domeca Aprato. His native language was Spanish. He was a cord maker in an iron works (probably the same person as above. He and his wife had a son, Jo Jr. born in 1915.
Louis Aprato, born in Italy in on November 27, 1889. He came to the US in 1896. He is married to Maria Aprato. They have two sons Jo, 7 and Pete 6. In 1920 they live at 1088 Yale Street and he owns the house there. He works as a moulder in a machine shop. Records show that Luigi Aparato married Maria Maddelena Giacolletto in Los Angeles on November 11, 1911. (she became a naturalized citizen in 1940.
1930 Census
Louis Aprato, born in Italy in 1890. His records in the 1930 Census says he came to the US in 1905. He was a naturalized citizen. He is married to Mary Aprato, born in Italy in 1892. This is the same couple as above and they now have one more son, Louis, born in California in 1922. The 1930 Census shows that they live at 3336 Granada Street, Los Angeles. At that time, he is listed as being a carpenter and working in a carpenter shop.
Joe Aprato, born in Italy in 1889, lives in 1930 with his wife Domminicka, and son Joe, now 15, at 1745 37th Street in a rented house. Joe is now the owner of a grocery store. He is also a naturalized citizen
Draft Registrations
Both Joe and Louis registered for the draft for WWI. Joe noted that he had previously served two years in the Italian Army, where he had been a corporal. At the time that he registered for the draft, he was working at the Fulton Engine Works on Main and Alhambra Streets.
Louis, at the time that he registered for the draft was working as a chauffeur at the Keystone Iron Works in Los Angeles. He was married with two children at the time. He has no previous military service.

The family came from Bosconero, Italy as is listed by Joe's WW II draft registration. This is in the northwestern part of Italy, about 16 miles north of Turin.

I have not been able to determine if Joe and Louis were brothers or cousins.

oldstuff Apr 13, 2017 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7772198)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/t4N4sb.jpg

:previous: Welcome to the thread Rustifer!


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/TTlXSa.jpg
ebay



& a somewhat blurry copy of one of the menus [unknown date]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/JDP9cR.jpgebay

some of the dishes offered are rather interesting...

Duckling Montmorency....never heard of it.
Chicken Jerusalem (?)
--------------------

To see an AMAZING high-definition of a Dino's Lodge menu see 3940dxer's post from back in 2012.

Here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6047

it includes Boula Boula soup....whatever that is.

and still includes a 'Montmorency'..... this time made with Royal Squab.

but the Chicken Jerusalem has been axed.
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Chicken Jerusalem is a dish of chicken with artichoke hearts in a cream sauce.

Boula Boula is a version of Turtle Soup

Duckling Montmorency is a roast duckling with cherries, oranges and sherry, among other things

ethereal_reality Apr 13, 2017 6:35 PM

:previous: Yum, sounds good! (except for the turtle soup)

& thanks so much for your research on the Aprato family oldstuff. -it's quite interesting.

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HossC Apr 13, 2017 7:00 PM

A familiar location from Julius Shulman today. Sadly there's just one image in "Job 274: Matcham and Heitschmidt, Gilmore Field, 1948".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

Getty Research Institute

As a reminder, post #33402 contains a couple of photos that Mr Shulman took inside the stadium when he visited a year later.

Martin Pal Apr 13, 2017 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7772189)

Yes! The Adventures of Robin Hood! (1938) Don't know if I've seen filming shots before. I recognized the technicolor camera being used.

https://blog.scienceandmediamuseum.o...ourcamera1.jpg
Technicolor three-color 35mm Camera, 1932 - 1950, Technicolor Corporation, Kodak Collection

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu...robin_hood.jpg

Ten-fifteen years ago I saw a 4k restoration of The Adventures of Robin Hood at the Arclight in Hollywood where relatives of Errol Flynn were in attendance, including a young grandson who was the spitting image of Flynn and with a personality that seemed sufficient to have him been in all kinds of trouble by now, just like his relative of yore.

I don't know all of his relatives or if one of these guys is who I'm remembering, but here's two of Errol Flynn's grandsons, Sean and Luke.

Sean Flynn was born in 1989:                        Luke Flynn was born in 1975:

http://www.menzmag.com/wp-content/up...Sean-Flynn.jpg https://bewitchmag.files.wordpress.c...pg?w=363&h=467

Martin Pal Apr 13, 2017 8:54 PM

I wanted to put these Paramount Gate pictures, previously posted by E_R, together.

1950's kodachrome
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...912/srLzUI.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-1950s-3...item43e28c030f

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/nFiSZO.jpg
ebay


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HossC identified the store: "The 1956 CD lists Geller's Men's and Women's Wear at 706 N Bronson. That may be the name on the brown awning."

E_R queried: "But I wonder what the restaurant is on that corner?"

I tried using the 1956 CD to identify the restaurant, but didn't have any luck. There were no other businesses located on the N. Bronson address on that side of the street that answered that question. I thought the address might be a Melrose address since it's on the corner. I found some possible eateries with Melrose addresses but they didn't seem to fit the writing on the signs in the photo. (Restaurant can be made out, of course.)

I found this photo that was in a New York Times article at some point:

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2013...-master675.jpgNYT

KMEX, Channel 34, was there at 721 N. Bronson as of 1962. An ARCO station is on the corner at this point. The restaurant signage on the right is still the same, too.


This photo from the Daveland blog has a specific date: June 14, 1956

http://davelandweb.com/hollywood/ima...14_56_N05R.jpgDaveland Blog

I like that green phone booth on the right. It's replaced in the NYT b&w photo above. Here's a closer view of it from another 1950's undated photo.

http://davelandweb.com/hollywood/ima...0s_N08C_d1.jpgDaveland Blog


I don't show the following photo has been on NLA before. A couple sources say that it is from 1960, but many more date it as 1970. Without searching, anyone want to venture a guess as to who is pictured in the photograph?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WFQM_RYPpm.../vl%2Bpara.jpg

Tourmaline Apr 13, 2017 9:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7772462)

I don't show the following photo has been on NLA before. A couple sources say that it is from 1960, but many more date it as 1970. Without searching, anyone want to venture a guess as to who is pictured in the photograph?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WFQM_RYPpm.../vl%2Bpara.jpg

Pretty sure that is Veronica Lake.;)

tovangar2 Apr 13, 2017 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7772462)
I don't show the following photo has been on NLA before. A couple sources say that it is from 1960, but many more date it as 1970. Without searching, anyone want to venture a guess as to who is pictured in the photograph?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WFQM_RYPpm.../vl%2Bpara.jpg

Anyone who's seen "Flesh Feast" (1970), would recognize her right away;

She never lost that impish smirk:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5X...g=w409-h511-no
mediacache

tovangar2 Apr 13, 2017 10:23 PM

Does anyone have an opinion about exactly where e_r's photo was taken? We're on land cleared for the Harbor, looking NE. I'd be interested to know the
location of the foreground buildings on the right. I'm guessing Byram and W 11th (now LA Live Way & Chick Hearn Ct), but I'm not sure.
The freeway was completed south to Olympic by March, 1954. Cold War LA, while not giving a location, dates this image to June 5, 1952:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7771570)

The view from the opposite direction in 1960, showing Georgia, Bixel and Byram/Sunbury cut diagonally by the Harbor/the 110
(oh dear, I may have forgotten Denver):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/lz...w=w799-h629-no
lapl

The area in 1921:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4l...Q=w777-h553-no
baist, 1921, plate 8 (detail)

Current configuration. Byram/Cherry is now "LA Live Way", east of the 110:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XD...A=w818-h586-no
google maps

Thx (I'll never get this straight)

Martin Pal Apr 14, 2017 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7772546)
Pretty sure that is Veronica Lake.;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7772584)


:tup: Yes, double T's, (Tourmaline & Tovangar), it certainly is Veronica Lake. She was only 48 years old in the photo. I understand she'd been working as a barmaid, too.

You both get lunch at the Paramount Commissary.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5215/5...050cfea5_z.jpgFlickr

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I was going to say the "Lion's Den," but that's over at M-G-M. Is it still there?
Apparently SONY has been renaming all the buildings with Columbia movie stars to confuse history.
A current shot of the M-G-M Commissary shows us that it's now the "Rita Hayworth Dining Hall."

http://dearmrgable.com/blog/wp-conte...w-764x1024.jpgDear Mr. Gable blog

BifRayRock Apr 14, 2017 12:19 AM




:previous:Veronica


1941
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BifRayRock Apr 14, 2017 12:20 AM



All roads lead toward Glendale and Forest Lawn, circa 1943 (Pre Freeways, sans the Pasadena.)




Pay no attention to the double line that divides directional lanes.:shrug:
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/6c972b3eb0e49f11_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/6c972b3eb0e49f11_large



Los Feliz Blvd. ?
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/11b441c9f22ec2c4_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/11b441c9f22ec2c4_large



Los Feliz Blvd. (!)
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...l.jpg~originalGoogleSVU





Los Feliz Blvd. (Pre 1,000,000 Apartments ?)
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/b5320b702fefc117_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/b5320b702fefc117_large







http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/9efd12c5ce22b955_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/9efd12c5ce22b955_large


Flo Zigfeld
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/50c...b3f1cb_landinghttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/50c...b3f1cb_landing


Pantages
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/ef6...0eba15_landinghttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/ef6...0eba15_landing



Wallace Reid
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/f48...541060_landinghttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/f48...541060_landing


Ruth Roland Bard. "Bard" as in Ben Bard Drama School. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=25085 http://www.skyscraperpage.com/forum/...ostcount=32902
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/ea0a998a293f4535_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/ea0a998a293f4535_large





Toot Toot
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/0999c561d1ab8c51_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/0999c561d1ab8c51_large


Would JC credit a source? :yes:

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/60586567f20ecf64_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/60586567f20ecf64_large


Flynn aboard his yacht, Zaca.
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/6c90559c07f2254d_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/6c90559c07f2254d_large


Flynn's grave marker at . . . Forest Lawn
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...d22b8621ec.jpghttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...d22b8621ec.jpg

tovangar2 Apr 14, 2017 1:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7772704)
You both get lunch at the Paramount Commissary.

Thank you, but can we make it the Cafe de Paris on the Fox lot? It's my favorite studio commissary (here in 1930):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Dg...w=w779-h480-no
blog21cf

ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2017 1:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7772369)

Yes! The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938)

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu...robin_hood.jpg

Ten-fifteen years ago I saw a 4k restoration of The Adventures of Robin Hood at the Arclight in Hollywood where relatives of Errol Flynn were in attendance,
including a young grandson who was the spitting image of Flynn and with a personality that seemed sufficient to have him been in all kinds of trouble by now,
just like his relative of yore.

I don't know all of his relatives or if one of these guys is who I'm remembering, Sean and Luke.

Keep in mind the first Sean Flynn was Errol Flynn's son with French actress Lili Damita.


Here he is as a mini-me swashbuckler. (cute, huh ;))

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/gEc1wC.jpg
http://www.theerrolflynnblog.com/201...f-errol-flynn/



And a few years later with his father.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/zgRU34.jpg
https://jonmwessel.wordpress.com/201...to-sean-flynn/




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/RlOguy.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...c5dee3c7d6.jpg




and all grown up.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/2SzUfZ.jpg
http://www.mynewplaidpants.com/2014/...ean-flynn.html




After a few film roles, Sean Flynn eventually became a photojournalist and began covering the Vietnam War in 1966.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/LvrJio.jpg
https://jonmwessel.wordpress.com/201...to-sean-flynn/

That's him standing on the right (with the large mustache) ---->

"On April 6, 1970, while traveling in Cambodia, Flynn and Dana Stone (on assignment for Time magazine and CBS News) were captured by Communist guerrillas at a roadblock on Highway One. They were never heard from again and their remains have never been found. Although it is known that they were captured by Vietnamese Communists, it has been suggested that they died in the hands of “hostile” forces. The logical and accepted story was that he was killed by the Cambodian Khmer Rouge about a year after his capture."

Lili Damita spent all her time and money searching for her son, finally giving up in 1984, having him legally declared dead.
In 2010 a mass grave was found near where Sean went missing. Seans’ body was not among them. :(

Lili Damita in 1933.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/TJZCbI.png
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/270708627576198578/


See Lili with Errol, Carol Lombard and Marlene Dietrich. (she was quite petite)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7115


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The Sean Flynn featured in MP's post is Sean Flynn's nephew. He is the son of Sean's half-sister, Rory.

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ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2017 2:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7772592)
Does anyone have an opinion about exactly where e_r's photo was taken? We're on land cleared for the Harbor, looking NE. I'd be interested to know the
location of the foreground buildings on the right. I'm guessing Byram and W 11th (now LA Live Way & Chick Hearn CT), but I'm not sure.
The freeway was completed south to Olympic by March, 1954:

t2, I hope someone responds to your query because I sure as heck can't figure it out.
At this point on NLA, I'm not sure which early morning 'atomic flash' photographs have been posted.

There's a whole group of them here. (some are originally from lapl I believe)
https://www.wired.com/2014/01/throwb...-golden-state/



Here's one example dated June 4, 1953:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/1S587m.jpg

t2, this view appears to have been taken fairly close to the 'mystery' location.

I'm almost certain the two men are standing on the soon-to-be Harbor Freeway.

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Jungmann Apr 14, 2017 2:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7772462)
I wanted to put these Paramount Gate pictures, previously posted by E_R, together.

1950's kodachrome
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...912/srLzUI.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-1950s-3...item43e28c030f

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/nFiSZO.jpg
ebay


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HossC identified the store: "The 1956 CD lists Geller's Men's and Women's Wear at 706 N Bronson. That may be the name on the brown awning."

E_R queried: "But I wonder what the restaurant is on that corner?"

I tried using the 1956 CD to identify the restaurant, but didn't have any luck. There were no other businesses located on the N. Bronson address on that side of the street that answered that question. I thought the address might be a Melrose address since it's on the corner. I found some possible eateries with Melrose addresses but they didn't seem to fit the writing on the signs in the photo. (Restaurant can be made out, of course.)

I found this photo that was in a New York Times article at some point:

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2013...-master675.jpgNYT

KMEX, Channel 34, was there at 721 N. Bronson as of 1962. An ARCO station is on the corner at this point. The restaurant signage on the right is still the same, too.


This photo from the Daveland blog has a specific date: June 14, 1956

http://davelandweb.com/hollywood/ima...14_56_N05R.jpgDaveland Blog

I like that green phone booth on the right. It's replaced in the NYT b&w photo above. Here's a closer view of it from another 1950's undated photo.

http://davelandweb.com/hollywood/ima...0s_N08C_d1.jpgDaveland Blog


I don't show the following photo has been on NLA before. A couple sources say that it is from 1960, but many more date it as 1970. Without searching, anyone want to venture a guess as to who is pictured in the photograph?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WFQM_RYPpm.../vl%2Bpara.jpg

The distant crossing street in the '50s pix is Marathon (I was born on it a few blocks east, beyond Vermont) and the restaurant is Oblaths. You can see the blade sign in the picture below. Pretty much the unofficial Paramount commissary from the 40s through the 60's which is when I worked at the studio. I think it went away in the 70's. Pretty decent Mexican food for an anglo operation

Here's Army Archerd reminiscing about the Paramount gate and things around it:

I can well remember going through the historic Paramount gates off Marathon Street for the first time to start working in that pair of small rooms where we’d sort mail to then deliver to the stars who had their permanent dressing rooms on the lot. Often, there were hundreds of extras waiting outside the gate for a possible call to work that day. A casting window handled the calls as well as the jobs for day players. You could often see male stars in the studio’s barber shop or at the bootblack’s stand … The men’s wardrobe department was alongside the mailroom, and it seemed like entire armies could have been uniformed there. And above, the famed women’s wardrobe department, headed by the incomparable Edith Head. Across the street, on the south side of Marathon, was the famed Oblath’s restaurant where those who took a break from the commissary could be waited upon by ladies who looked like they stepped out of a sitcom — only there weren’t any sitcoms then

http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla...tream/JPG/view

LA Daily News negative

AviationGuy Apr 14, 2017 2:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7771503)
That's a nice spot Blaster (this view looking south). Does it look the same as when you were there?:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0p...=w1278-h550-no
google maps

"Lucy Park" reminds me that when I was recently watching a Lucy Show rerun, she told someone her house address was 980 Gower Street. Might that have actually been the address where the old I Love Lucy show was taped? I could research it, but I'll bet someone here knows.

John Maddox Roberts Apr 14, 2017 2:42 AM

One of my college writing teachers was in Saigon for a number of months for "Playboy." All the writers and reporters and photojournalists hung out together at the Continental Palace on Tu Do Street. He knew Sean Flynn and said he was the bravest man he had ever known. In the end, sadly, that got him killed.

CityBoyDoug Apr 14, 2017 2:42 AM

Rudy
 
I know its a bit pre-mature but soon his August date with destiny will be here.

He died at 31....tragic. I understand there's a new ''lady in black". Is that you T2?:cool:;)


Rudolph Valentino in his coffin with handsome 'fascist' black shirt honor guard sent by Italian dictator Benito Mussolini
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pswezkszjl.jpg
pinterist


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