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HossC Aug 21, 2016 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7537359)

'mystery' location

(the same year as last night's 'mystery' slide) 1961

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/BxU66Q.jpg
eBay

"Original Slide, LAMTA Los Angeles Interurban #1525 (ex Pacific Electric), 1961"

Quote:

Originally Posted by HenryHuntington (Post 7537518)

LAMTA 1525 is eastbound on Ocean Blvd. in Long Beach. If someone can nail the location of the theater or identify the shop front of the car (Vinson's?), we'll know exactly where. The street sign looks to me like "Collins", but that area is completely unrecognizable today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 7537573)

We're on Ocean between Pine and Locust, looking north-ish (more like northwest). The tall brick building in the background is still there, "there" being the northeast corner of Pine and 1st.

I'd say we're actually on Ocean between Locust Avenue and Collins Way. I spent a little time trying to figure out the name on the blade sign. After finding no likely theaters ending with "A", it finally clicked that it was the UA Theatre at 215 East Ocean Boulevard. Here's a slightly wider shot from around the same era. The corner of the Hotel Del Mar can just be seen on the right.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Kenneth McIntyre/Facebook

I think this 1930s photo has appeared before on NLA, but the hotlinked image has disappeared.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
California State Library

For some reason, the United Artists Theatre seems to be missing from several of the Long Beach CDs from the mid- to late-50s and early-60s. Instead, the Casa Blanca (sometimes Casablanca) Restaurant is listed at 215 East Ocean Boulevard. The theater is back by 1963.

Vinson's in e_r's picture was a women's clothing shop at 233 East Ocean Boulevard. It seems to disappear from the CDs by the mid-50s, replaced by the Elliot Gem & Mineral Shop. The 1963 CD shows Johnnys Men's Wear at 233.

ethereal_reality Aug 21, 2016 2:08 PM

:previous: Excellent sleuthing HenryHuntington, odinthor & HossC.



Here's another fantastic Kodachrome slide from that same year, and probably from the same photographer. [ca.1961]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/5zPRJ4.jpg
eBay

-note Clifton's Cafeteria, located at 648 S. Broadway, is directly behind the streetcar.
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I'll go ahead and post this one as well since it's the same street corner.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/UPMKZU.jpg

Can anyone read the yellow and green sign on the corner:previous: (it's less blurry in the 1st slide)

HossC Aug 21, 2016 3:13 PM

The following screengrabs are all from a 25 minute video called "Foot Patrol" that I found in the USC Digital Library. I think it's new to NLA. It starts by introducing us to Officer George Clark (Clarke?), a WW2 veteran.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

After some aerial shots of City Hall, Union Staion, Hollywood, amusement piers and racetracks, we see how the officers prepare for duty. First they update their hot sheet of stolen cars before checking their appearance with an "adequate mirror" and picture of a "properly uniformed officer". They can then be inspected.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

The officers were supposed to call in at hourly intervals, unless they were tackling an armed robber at a gas station.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

The video names three important disasters that officers should be prepared for: an explosion, a plane crash with highly confidential military equipment and a major fire. The explosion shown is the one at the O’Connor Electro-Plating Corp at 926 E Pico Boulevard. It was covered by gsjansen in post #1637. It occurred in February 1947, so it looks like the 1946 date of the video is a year out.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

Arresting drunks seems to take up a lot of Officer Clark's day. On the right, the drunk's girlfriend is the one causing problems: "Brother, this gal is much worse than a wildcat - who ever heard of a wildcat with shoes?"

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

The officers had to stay fit, as seen in this train-top chase (below, left). The robber was spotted trying to open one of the rail cars. I think the action takes place in the Cornfield Yard. The video ends with a look at Camp Valcrest, where officers take groups of 150 children for a 10 day outing.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

There are many other activities covered in the video. These include: helping a lost girl; not accepting bribes; how to handle people who've made a citizen's arrest; checking burlesque theaters; making a narcotics arrest; catching a safe-cracker; finding a vehicle from a hit-and-run; dealing with epileptic seizures; car wrecks; ignoring plain-clothes officers; not jumping to conclusions (Officer Clark thinks a man with a mannequin is assaulting a lady). All in all it was quite a busy day for Officer Clark.

Near the end of the video we see Officer Clark in MacArthur Park. Apparently, "One of the most exasperating police problems is dealing with homosexuals, whose activities must be controlled." He's lucky it would still be a couple of years before he had to deal with any Commies! Thankfully, times and attitudes have changed.

HossC Aug 21, 2016 3:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7537693)

Here's another fantastic Kodachrome slide from that same year, and probably from the same photographer. [ca.1961]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/5zPRJ4.jpg
eBay

Can anyone read the yellow and green sign on the corner:previous:

It says "We Provide Timeplan Financing". It was a Bank of America financing plan for buying home appliances etc.

BifRayRock Aug 21, 2016 3:53 PM







Closer view of nearly completed City Hall and environs ~ 1927 - '28. looking NW.
digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15799coll65/id/20112



The Salvation Army had Scandinavian and Japanese listings as well as separate listings for a day nursery, social services, women's residence and maternity ward.


Rafu Travel at 122 N San Pedro

New Palace (Hotel) 118 Weller (Onizuka) Street



http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...e.jpg~original









http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...h.jpg~original





Did City/County require its/their own license plate attachment or could this have been a state-wide phenomenon? Extra revenue, law/traffic enforcement aid, or both?
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...g.jpg~original





1939 - SE view from City Hall of Weller (Onizuka) and First Streets, among others.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...ll170/id/19832



http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...p.jpg~original




http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...l.jpg~original



http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...v.jpg~original



Weller renamed Onizuka: http://onizukamemorial.org/onizuka-street





HossC Aug 21, 2016 8:16 PM

Thanks to John Maddox Roberts, HenryHuntington and ProphetM for your recollections of the Lov-e Shop in Pasadena, and your thoughts on its location.


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After yesterday's brassiere shop, I've spent some of today looking at pictures of women in swim suits, and all in the name of research! I didn't plan for these photosets to come up consecutively, I'm just working through them as I find them. It's a hard job, but someone has to do it :). The reason for the swim suits is that today's Julius Shulman post is "Job 1469: Rose Marie Reid Swim Suit Plant, 1953", and I was trying to find its location - honest.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

The office windows are nothing special, but the entrance makes it an interesting building.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

The factory floor.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

From an article at exhibits.lib.byu.edu: "Occasionally Rose Marie worked from preliminary design sketches, but most of her work was done on live models... Rose Marie also insisted on testing all pre-production swimsuits in both fresh and salt water". So I guess that makes this a testing area at the factory.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

After lots of searching, sadly most of it text-based, I found a couple of references to the factory being located at 5200 W Century Boulevard. If that's correct, then here it is on a 1952 aerial. The site was a parking lot by 1980.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

There are loads of articles about Rose Marie Reid online. You can start your further reading with her Wikipedia page and her NY Times obituary.

GaylordWilshire Aug 21, 2016 8:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7537724)
The following screengrabs are all from a 25 minute video called "Foot Patrol" that I found in the USC Digital Library. I think it's new to NLA. It starts by introducing us to Officer George Clark (Clarke?), a WW2 veteran.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original


Officer Clark shoulda been in pictures--he's a good looking boy with big mitts and is packing two kinds of heat...not sure how Henry Willson missed him.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OV...366-h768-rw-no
I'd have littered just to meet him... & notice the coffin-nosed Cord.



There are a lot of views that could be tracked down in the film, as HossC has found. A few more:


A BoA branch at Figueroa & York we've seen on NLA several times--the second shot was seen here previously in Hoss's post 30840
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a9...366-h768-rw-nohttp://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ih...366-h768-rw-no


The scene of the filling-station holdup was, as the lettering says, 2604 Beverly Blvd...the modern-day view from a similar perspective (to the northeast) reveals that the apartment house on Rampart (at right in 2015 view) is still there
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ut...366-h768-rw-nohttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sb...366-h768-rw-no


A MacArthur Park underpass in the film, and one more recently:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/US...366-h768-rw-nohttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/d1...366-h768-rw-no



PS I'm with Blaster...enough already of the Lucy & Ethel hunt for movie stars. Enough of that picture, at least, please.

ethereal_reality Aug 21, 2016 9:02 PM

Originally posted by HossC
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/zgcfN6.jpg

This is the corner of Maple and 5th Street. I see a sign for 'cocktails' in the grimy building behind the fight.
Is there any way to figure out the name of this place? -It's quite a dive.



Here's that same corner today. There's a hideous concrete building on that corner now.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/qU7Hne.jpg
gsv








Here's a look of E. 5th street that I believe was taken about the same time of the usc short film.

we've seen this previously on NLA
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/N2PAGk.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/729465...ream/lightbox/

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I haven't watched the film yet. I'm going to now.

HossC Aug 21, 2016 9:25 PM

:previous:

Thanks for the follow-ups. I should have included the list of locations that USC provided:
An overview of the training and duties of a foot patrolman, assigned to Central Division, 324 West 1st Street, downtown Los Angeles, California, ca. 1946. Included are aerial views of downtown Los Angeles including City Hall (200 North Los Angeles Street), Union Station (800 North Alameda Street), and Los Angeles Police Academy (1880 Academy Drive), also the airport, the Port of Los Angeles, and Memorial Colliseum. Enactments take place at a gas station (2604 West Beverly Boulevard), Stubergh's Mannequins (3680 Beverly Boulevard), intersection (400 Savoy Street), call box (500 South Los Angeles Street), Burbank Theatre (337 South Main Street), intersection (100 East 5th Street), MacArthur Park (2230 West 6th Street), Camp Valcrest (Angeles National Forest HC01, Pearblossom), and the YMCA (401 South Hope Street).
I've also emailed USC to add another three locations including Fire Station 23 and the Bank of America.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7537914)

This is the corner of Maple and 5th Street. I see a sign for 'cocktails' in the grimy building behind the fight.
Is there any way to figure out the name of this place? -It's quite a dive.

It's actually a comical scene where Officer Clark tries to prop the drunk up against various objects.

The address for that location on the 1921 Baist map is 230 E 5th Street. The 1942 CD (the closest to the date of the video) lists a restaurant owned by Clara Campanella at that address.

CityBoyDoug Aug 21, 2016 9:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7537724)
The following screengrabs are all from a 25 minute video called "Foot Patrol" that I found in the USC Digital Library. I think it's new to NLA. It starts by introducing us to Officer George Clark (Clarke?), a WW2 veteran.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

After some aerial shots of City Hall, Union Staion, Hollywood, amusement piers and racetracks, we see how the officers prepare for duty. First they update their hot sheet of stolen cars before checking their appearance with an "adequate mirror" and picture of a "properly uniformed officer". They can then be inspected.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

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Most interesting old film of 1946 Los Angeles police officer life.
One thing that really stands out is how slim and trim all the officers are at morning inspection. I seriously doubt that any USA police force could match those 1940s men's corporeal appearance .

It was fun to watch as many scenes were inadvertently humorous by today's standards. [Hoss also saw the humor.]

I can't remember the last time I saw a police officer just walking around on the sidewalk looking for possible crimes. Of course today many businesses hire private security.

ethereal_reality Aug 21, 2016 10:20 PM

I thought it might be fun to try and figure out the intersection where the man tries to give Office Clark a bribe

#1
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/CTN24P.jpg
usc



#2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/UW9waH.jpg
usc






Here you see a glimpse of the left side of the side street.

#3
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/kEwNZn.jpg
usc




We get a good look down the street as the owner of the car approaches.

#4
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/zakrWj.jpg



I thought it might be the "400 Savoy Street" (listed in the usc-description that Hoss just posted),

The hill matches...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/9Li9sz.jpg
gsv


but the side street (Savoy) appears to curve in the wrong direction. (screengrab #2 shows the curve best)



aerial showing Savoy St.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/m73QDL.jpg
Google

So what gives?
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ethereal_reality Aug 21, 2016 11:28 PM

'mystery' slide

"Original Slide, LAMTA Los Angeles Track Scene (ex PE Pacific Electric), 1961"


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/zxoo85.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sli...8AAOSwMtxXtK4F

I'm anxious to see if that brick building behind the rusting boxcar is still standing.

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ethereal_reality Aug 21, 2016 11:38 PM

'mystery' slide #2


"Original Slide, LAMTA Los Angeles Interurban #1544 (ex Pacific Electric), 1961"


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/ad49wy.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sli...kAAOSw65FXtKzm





Not too many clues in this image.....

except for the large industrial building in the distance and the water tower that's visible behind the yellow house.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/03jj7D.jpg
detail

note the lawn chair in the front yard.....the homeowner probably enjoys watching the trains go by (I sure would! :))

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Ed Workman Aug 22, 2016 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7537994)
'mystery' slide

"Original Slide, LAMTA Los Angeles Track Scene (ex PE Pacific Electric), 1961"


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/zxoo85.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sli...8AAOSwMtxXtK4F

I'm anxious to see if that brick building behind the rusting boxcar is still standing.



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Thought I posted but ????
Anyways
This is Watts- thats Watts Tower. Watts was the end of Fourtracks. The outermost were used by local cars. The brick building is the substation to convert HiTension AC to 600v DC for the overhead wire
Simon Rodia's toweres are to the right and behind the photog, who is riding at the front left window, or maybe at the window in the door- fantrip
The original 1902 mainline is one of three routes here, so perhaps googledirt will show the scars

Blaster Aug 22, 2016 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7537960)
I thought it might be fun to try and figure out the intersection where the man tries to give Office Clark a bribe

#1
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/CTN24P.jpg
usc

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Do the signs for US 101 and Route 66 with the arrows mean if we follow this street we will come to them? Or are we already on them?

UphillDonkey Aug 22, 2016 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7537960)
I thought it might be fun to try and figure out the intersection where the man tries to give Office Clark a bribe

#1
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/CTN24P.jpg
usc



#2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/UW9waH.jpg
usc
https://s6.postimg.org/yhqycvybl/Scr...5_19_37_PM.png

Sunset Blvd at Bellevue and Beaudry. The Gas station has gone but the motel behind it is still there.






Here you see a glimpse of the left side of the side street.

#3
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/kEwNZn.jpg
usc




We get a good look down the street as the owner of the car approaches.

#4
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/zakrWj.jpg



I thought it might be the "400 Savoy Street" (listed in the usc-description that Hoss just posted),

The hill matches...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/9Li9sz.jpg
gsv


but the side street (Savoy) appears to curve in the wrong direction. (screengrab #2 shows the curve best)



aerial showing Savoy St.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/m73QDL.jpg
Google

So what gives?
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https://s6.postimg.org/yhqycvybl/Scr...5_19_37_PM.png

HenryHuntington Aug 22, 2016 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 7538020)
Thought I posted but ????
Anyways
This is Watts- thats Watts Tower. Watts was the end of Fourtracks. The outermost were used by local cars. The brick building is the substation to convert HiTension AC to 600v DC for the overhead wire
Simon Rodia's toweres are to the right and behind the photog, who is riding at the front left window, or maybe at the window in the door- fantrip
The original 1902 mainline is one of three routes here, so perhaps googledirt will show the scars

The coming of the Metro Blue Line and redevelopment of the neighborhood have combined to almost completely alter this scene other than successor UP using the leftmost pair of former PE tracks for freight traffic. Not only are the substation and tower gone, but so are the commercial buildings on 103rd St. about halfway up on the left and right margins of the frame.

UphillDonkey Aug 22, 2016 12:32 AM

How do I delete my post? I just noticed someone already posted the answer.

ethereal_reality Aug 22, 2016 12:35 AM

You can't delete a post completely, so you should have just left your answer UphillDonkey.....and added "Aw Shucks they beat me to it." ;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 7537484)
I remember Rafu TV from the late 60s and early 70s. "Rafu" was a local Japanese term for "Los Angeles."

:previous: Thanks for the information GatoVerde. I wasn't aware of the term Rafu until I came across that old blade on Lorena Street.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/Sz0zya.jpg
gsv detail


GatoVerde wrote: "Rafu was a local Japanese term for Los Angeles."

I found this example from 1956.

Rafu Shimpo = L.A. Japanese Daily News.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/LFzcUy.jpg
http://www.janm.org/

I believe the lovely young ladies are beauty contestants for Nisei Week, 1956.

(Rafu Shimpo was located at 242 S. San Pedro Steet)

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ethereal_reality Aug 22, 2016 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaster (Post 7538030)
Do the signs for US 101 and Route 66 with the arrows mean if we follow this street we will come to them? Or are we already on them?

Glad you asked that question Blaster.
I'm also confused when I see signs like this.

The worst are 'detour' signs....they really throw me for a loop. (pun intended;))


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